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Re: BC Election - Who ya gonna vote for?
« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2009, 09:28:22 AM »

Anyone remember the "balanced budget" delivered by Elizabeth Cull and her coherts ?
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Re: BC Election - Who ya gonna vote for?
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2009, 11:42:35 AM »

I'm with most of the others on this board, I dont think we can afford to keep the Liberals in power another term , not if we hope to retain control of our natural resources. I dont like the drive to privatize, these are OUR resouces, not the Liberals, and the sheer arrogance of their choices has simply driven me away from them.
I would rather have the NDP or other party in power for 4 years, than see our province sold down the river...pun intended
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Re: BC Election - Who ya gonna vote for?
« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2009, 12:57:06 PM »

One thing is for certain....if anybody makes their choice based on PAST performance of political parties, past scandals, past whatever....we're left with either independents or parties that have not yet had a chance to screw us over.  I'm more interested in a parties current stance and their plan to progress through the coming years.  People have to remember that political parties are very fluid entities, they are always changing, people jump ship and change sides all the time, so the party that may have screwed us 10 years ago is an entirely different (and sometimes worse) beast than the one we vote for today.

To me it is most important when voting to look forward rather than get tangled up in an outdated conversation about "remember who..."  The current liberal platform when it comes to our environment and our provinces resources (as well as social services) is what is pushing me away from voting liberal this time around.  To me they are neo-cons, a wolf in sheeps clothing (with obvious, glaring omissions on the costume).
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« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2009, 06:21:28 PM »

One thing is for certain....if anybody makes their choice based on PAST performance of political parties, past scandals, past whatever....we're left with either independents or parties that have not yet had a chance to screw us over.  I'm more interested in a parties current stance and their plan to progress through the coming years.  People have to remember that political parties are very fluid entities, they are always changing, people jump ship and change sides all the time, so the party that may have screwed us 10 years ago is an entirely different (and sometimes worse) beast than the one we vote for today.

To me it is most important when voting to look forward rather than get tangled up in an outdated conversation about "remember who..."  The current liberal platform when it comes to our environment and our provinces resources (as well as social services) is what is pushing me away from voting liberal this time around.  To me they are neo-cons, a wolf in sheeps clothing (with obvious, glaring omissions on the costume).

Atleast the Liberals have a platform. Nobody has even heard what the NDP plans on doing when elected. They just say they wont do what the Liberals are doing. You would think they would be a little bit more specific instead of being so wishy washy......
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Re: BC Election - Who ya gonna vote for?
« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2009, 06:32:05 PM »

One thing is for certain....if anybody makes their choice based on PAST performance of political parties, past scandals, past whatever....we're left with either independents or parties that have not yet had a chance to screw us over.  I'm more interested in a parties current stance and their plan to progress through the coming years.  People have to remember that political parties are very fluid entities, they are always changing, people jump ship and change sides all the time, so the party that may have screwed us 10 years ago is an entirely different (and sometimes worse) beast than the one we vote for today.

To me it is most important when voting to look forward rather than get tangled up in an outdated conversation about "remember who..."  The current liberal platform when it comes to our environment and our provinces resources (as well as social services) is what is pushing me away from voting liberal this time around.  To me they are neo-cons, a wolf in sheeps clothing (with obvious, glaring omissions on the costume).

Atleast the Liberals have a platform. Nobody has even heard what the NDP plans on doing when elected. They just say they wont do what the Liberals are doing. You would think they would be a little bit more specific instead of being so wishy washy......


http://www.bcndp.ca/why-ndp/BCNDP-platform-2009

Not wishy washy at all.  Wishy washy is posting that they don't have a platform without doing a quick search online ;)   I kid, I kid.  You can access their full platform in PDF form.  You'd be surprised it is not as anti-small-business as you may think BB.  Not trying to convert anyone but the info is there to read.  If they can accomplish half of what their platform sets out to do it will be something I can put my tax dollars behind in good conscience.  I cannot even begin to say that about the liberal or conservative platforms.
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« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2009, 06:32:53 PM »

One thing is for certain....if anybody makes their choice based on PAST performance of political parties, past scandals, past whatever....we're left with either independents or parties that have not yet had a chance to screw us over.  I'm more interested in a parties current stance and their plan to progress through the coming years.  People have to remember that political parties are very fluid entities, they are always changing, people jump ship and change sides all the time, so the party that may have screwed us 10 years ago is an entirely different (and sometimes worse) beast than the one we vote for today.

To me it is most important when voting to look forward rather than get tangled up in an outdated conversation about "remember who..."  The current liberal platform when it comes to our environment and our provinces resources (as well as social services) is what is pushing me away from voting liberal this time around.  To me they are neo-cons, a wolf in sheeps clothing (with obvious, glaring omissions on the costume).

Atleast the Liberals have a platform. Nobody has even heard what the NDP plans on doing when elected. They just say they wont do what the Liberals are doing. You would think they would be a little bit more specific instead of being so wishy washy......

Liberals Platform.  Sell everything fast so we look good on paper.  ::) WoW great .  Sell outs. Marmot has it right. Gordo has that same stupid smirk that bush had.
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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2009, 08:21:34 PM »

One thing is for certain....if anybody makes their choice based on PAST performance of political parties, past scandals, past whatever....we're left with either independents or parties that have not yet had a chance to screw us over.  I'm more interested in a parties current stance and their plan to progress through the coming years.  People have to remember that political parties are very fluid entities, they are always changing, people jump ship and change sides all the time, so the party that may have screwed us 10 years ago is an entirely different (and sometimes worse) beast than the one we vote for today.

To me it is most important when voting to look forward rather than get tangled up in an outdated conversation about "remember who..."  The current liberal platform when it comes to our environment and our provinces resources (as well as social services) is what is pushing me away from voting liberal this time around.  To me they are neo-cons, a wolf in sheeps clothing (with obvious, glaring omissions on the costume).

Atleast the Liberals have a platform. Nobody has even heard what the NDP plans on doing when elected. They just say they wont do what the Liberals are doing. You would think they would be a little bit more specific instead of being so wishy washy......


What good is a platform when it's all lies? READ what Campbull says-  then see what he does. He's a LIAR. A convicted criminal. A decent hypnotist, a great storyteller,  but still a liar and hypocrite. And to give yourself a $54000 raise (and a $10,000 a month pension) while the province has growth, yet we still are the worst on child poverty and have the lowest minimum wage in the country. What about the 5000 beds for seniors in 5 years? Try 1800 in 8 years, and split up old couples. Gordon Campbell is a con man , selling our province piece by piece. Find out how much the ROR electricity costs by the contracts and then check the market FOUR TIMES markey rate and we're OBLIGATED to buy it, high or low. How much muck is there in the BC Rail "lease" (another lie) that "is before the courts"? One day we'll all look back and rue the day this fibbing scam artist came into power.


Now back to our regular programming...... ;)
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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2009, 09:05:24 PM »

One thing is for certain....if anybody makes their choice based on PAST performance of political parties, past scandals, past whatever....we're left with either independents or parties that have not yet had a chance to screw us over.  I'm more interested in a parties current stance and their plan to progress through the coming years.  People have to remember that political parties are very fluid entities, they are always changing, people jump ship and change sides all the time, so the party that may have screwed us 10 years ago is an entirely different (and sometimes worse) beast than the one we vote for today.

To me it is most important when voting to look forward rather than get tangled up in an outdated conversation about "remember who..."  The current liberal platform when it comes to our environment and our provinces resources (as well as social services) is what is pushing me away from voting liberal this time around.  To me they are neo-cons, a wolf in sheeps clothing (with obvious, glaring omissions on the costume).

Atleast the Liberals have a platform. Nobody has even heard what the NDP plans on doing when elected. They just say they wont do what the Liberals are doing. You would think they would be a little bit more specific instead of being so wishy washy......


What good is a platform when it's all lies? READ what Campbull says-  then see what he does. He's a LIAR. A convicted criminal. A decent hypnotist, a great storyteller,  but still a liar and hypocrite. And to give yourself a $54000 raise (and a $10,000 a month pension) while the province has growth, yet we still are the worst on child poverty and have the lowest minimum wage in the country. What about the 5000 beds for seniors in 5 years? Try 1800 in 8 years, and split up old couples. Gordon Campbell is a con man , selling our province piece by piece. Find out how much the ROR electricity costs by the contracts and then check the market FOUR TIMES markey rate and we're OBLIGATED to buy it, high or low. How much muck is there in the BC Rail "lease" (another lie) that "is before the courts"? One day we'll all look back and rue the day this fibbing scam artist came into power.


Now back to our regular programming...... ;)


Show me one politician thats not a liar? Carole James HAHAHA!!!
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Re: BC Election - Who ya gonna vote for?
« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2009, 09:46:39 PM »

When I think of all the hurt that drunk Gord caused for the children of the province, it makes me sick.  :P

There should be a psychological assessment done on people who intend to run for leader of political parties. Gord would fail on the "Not Psychopathic" part of it. As with a lot of people who run organizations the more ruthless you are the further you get. Many studies on this to confirm that, not something I made up. We all suffer to the psychopathic ways of the leaders of political parties etc.
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« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2009, 10:15:32 PM »




 And to give yourself a $54000 raise (and a $10,000 a month pension) while the province has growth, yet we still are the worst on child poverty and have the lowest minimum wage in the country.

Now back to our regular programming...... ;)


Don't forget the NDP also voted for the raise until there was a big public uproar..... Hypocrits ?
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« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2009, 11:36:16 PM »

Interesting reading some comments here.

It seems people in China try to get out of communism/socialism and some people here actually thinks it might be good.  :'(
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« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2009, 05:31:42 AM »

"Show me one politician thats not a liar? Carole James HAHAHA!!!"
Show me a list that's as big as Campbell's encyclopedia of "mistruth". You can't. It doesn't exist. I'm no big fan of the NDP, but I can not sit and whistle while everything is sold to friends and insiders. I also feel a deep shame that little is being done to address the child poverty issue. What kind of psychopathic society do we live in when we put greed and personal gain ahead of taking care of those who have no voice? In a province with all the wealth we have that is an embarrassing disgrace.

Money management?" B.C. Liberals screamed bloody murder when the previous NDP government had built up the accumulated debt to over $30 billion. Now, those same B.C. Liberals are telling us that they intend to increase our accumulated provincial debt to over $47 billion." Wilf Hanni. Hardly a leftist.

Seniors- 5000 beds promised- 800 delivered. There is no excuse for that but there's 385 million for a retractable roof for BC Place. Yep, there's PRIORITIES.

Health care? Now if that wasn't so sad and didn't hit me so hard personally I'd laugh. I had to wait over 2 years to get surgery that kept me from earning a living. I didn't have a spare 10,000 dollars to jump the line and get it done, so I sat in pain and at considerable risk to my health.

BC Rail- Campbell looked straight at British Columbians and was adamant he wasn't going to sell it off. Do a google on Patrick Kinsella and smell what comes up. The legislature was raided. That fills me with pride. Not.

Ferries? They need money? Go and get from the private sector (But they guarantee loans for the Port Mann Bridge?) The books are no longer available to public scrutiny. And let's get the boats built in Germany, design them poorly, bring them here and NOT use them. Any odour there?

We'll lose BC Hydro as the privatization of OUR province creeps along in increments. The ROR projects are locked in at ridiculous rates, up yp 4 times what our present costs are, but we're obligated to buy it - BUT THERE IS NO NEW GENERATION PROJECTS ALLOWED FOR BC HYDRO Huh? We had a competitive advantage that's gone now. But we have Bill 30, which strips municipalities of zoning authority — no local voices or control — over private river power projects.

I could go on, but I hasve to go to work to pay the $127,000 in severance pay for our MLA's (and the $9000 retraining allowance) so it's all good for them.

As I stated, I'm not a fan of the NDP, but there's no alternatives other than to sit and applaud the rape and pillage of my province.

What I would like to see is HONESTY AND INTEGRITY from any and all politicians instead of handing over everything to their freinds. But we end up with this instead.....


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Re: BC Election - Who ya gonna vote for?
« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2009, 08:00:47 AM »

He looks happy in those pictures.
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« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2009, 08:22:03 AM »



Excellent post Novabonker!!!!!




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« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2009, 08:32:42 AM »

The 3 leaders are on CKNW right now with Bill Good.........

http://www.cknw.com/
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