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NDP's solution to fish farms
« on: January 09, 2009, 01:53:55 PM »

So a week ago I emailed both the NDP and Liberals and asked them several questions. With the upcoming election I wanted some answers regarding a few topics. One of them was what they plan to do about fish farms.

So I just got off the phone with an NDP fish critic I wont mention the name. Basically in a nutshell the NDP's solution is for close containment fish farms in the ocean. So they would have to build concrete barriers for it to be closed.

So looks like my bet with Geff is pretty safe ;)
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 02:09:14 PM »

....in a nutshell the NDP's solution is for close containment fish farms in the ocean. So they would have to build concrete barriers for it to be closed....
Your knowledge of close containment systems is scanty at best. ::)

If you Click Here and explore the site as linked you can educate yourself as to current options and ideas some of them already being experimented with here in BC.
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 02:47:39 PM »

....in a nutshell the NDP's solution is for close containment fish farms in the ocean. So they would have to build concrete barriers for it to be closed....
Your knowledge of close containment systems is scanty at best. ::)

If you Click Here and explore the site as linked you can educate yourself as to current options and ideas some of them already being experimented with here in BC.

Did you read what I wrote or skim read it  ::)

I quoted what the NDP critic told me over the phone. If you dont like what he said take it up with him. I dont want them at all in the ocean. I see two options. Get rid of them completely or put them in land. Since they wont do them in land because its too expensive than be gone. Its not like they can do what they do over seas and farm tilapia as their is no demand for it here.

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I read what was in that link. Whats so different about what I said than whats in that link. Its says solid walls. So??? Who said anything about my knowledge? I just wrote what the critic  said to me. You sure like trying to find holes in something when their really are no holes.
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 03:22:55 PM »

MP announces three projects to receive federal Fisheries funding

 
 
Dan MacLennan
 
Courier-Islander
 


Friday, January 09, 2009

 

A new method of using shellfish, kelp and bottom feeders to reduce fish farm waste is among three projects to receive federal Fisheries funding.

Courtenay-based Kyuquot SEAfoods Ltd. will receive $250,000 to develop its Sea-System Infrastructure Innovation Project, Vancouver Island North MP John Duncan announced in Campbell River Thursday.

"This will result in a potential new and environmentally-friendly food source for other aquaculture species and it will reduce the amount of such waste on the ocean floor," Duncan said at a news conference in the BC Centre for Aquatic Health Sciences.

Kyuquot SEAfoods president and CEO Dr. Stephen Cross said a 'sea tram' beneath fish farms will support tiers of oysters, cockles, mussels and scallops below net pens to feed on the waste the pens produce. Dissolved nutrients like nitrates and ammonia will be absorbed by a kelp component while sea cucumbers and sea urchins would feed on solid waste that falls to the ocean floor below the net pens.

"We anticipate to be able to grow in the order of 70 to 100 metric tonnes of shellfish at a small salmon farm or fish site per year using this type of system," he said.

Meanwhile, the BC Centre for Aquatic Health Sciences will receive $250,000 for a number of projects including one to develop tests determining the readiness of smolts to enter salt water. Another project will seek a test to rapidly detect the Infectious Hematopoietic Necrosis (IHN) virus which has cost the BC aquaculture industry millions of dollars in losses over the years.

Duncan said quick detection of IHN will allow salmon farmers to identify virus outbreaks quickly and minimize potential losses by implementing containment measures.

"We're going to make very good use of this money," said Centre CEO Linda Sams. "This industry can and will be an accepted part of our economy here as long as we have local and innovative approaches to good operational practices."

Duncan also announced funding of $24,000 to the BC Salmon Farmers Association to import New Zealand's expertise in cryopreservation techniques. He said it will help to reduce operating costs and enhance brood stock performance.

Duncan said Ottawa will invest $23.5 million over the next five years to support the development of a vibrant and sustainable aquaculture industry.

"The industry is not without controversy," he said. "It's very important that we jointly invest in innovative practices designed to continually improve the industry's environmental record, which is why it gives me great pleasure to announce that our government is investing $524,000 in aquaculture innovation projects in British Columbia."

Courier-Islander (Campbell River) 2009

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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 03:24:38 PM »

Its not like they can do what they do over seas and farm tilapia as their is no demand for it here.
FYI-Tilapia is very popular here many ethnic restaurants use it extensively and fish markets usually have it in stock Fresh.

You really need to get away from the double wide more often.
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 03:32:56 PM »

"You really need to get away from the double wide more often." ;D


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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 03:48:01 PM »

Its not like they can do what they do over seas and farm tilapia as their is no demand for it here.
FYI-Tilapia is very popular here many ethnic restaurants use it extensively and fish markets usually have it in stock Fresh.

You really need to get away from the double wide more often.

If your going to insult me Esox Lucius do it to my face. All you ever do is google things to try and prove your point. You never have an opinion of your own. Anyways your a troll and I am done feeding the troll. You want to talk more about the double wide I will give you my phone number if you give me your telephone number....
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 04:08:56 PM »

......A new method of using shellfish, kelp and bottom feeders to reduce fish farm waste is among three projects to receive federal Fisheries funding.

Courtenay-based Kyuquot SEAfoods Ltd. will receive $250,000 to develop its Sea-System Infrastructure Innovation Project, Vancouver Island North MP John Duncan announced in Campbell River Thursday.

"This will result in a potential new and environmentally-friendly food source for other aquaculture species and it will reduce the amount of such waste on the ocean floor," Duncan said at a news conference in the BC Centre for Aquatic Health Sciences.

Kyuquot SEAfoods president and CEO Dr. Stephen Cross said a 'sea tram' beneath fish farms will support tiers of oysters, cockles, mussels and scallops below net pens to feed on the waste the pens produce. Dissolved nutrients like nitrates and ammonia will be absorbed by a kelp component while sea cucumbers and sea urchins would feed on solid waste that falls to the ocean floor below the net pens.

"We anticipate to be able to grow in the order of 70 to 100 metric tonnes of shellfish at a small salmon farm or fish site per year using this type of system," he said.
There's a university in Chile that did some of the same work with some very positive results.




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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 12:00:11 PM »

common guys ...settle it straight on the river...i meant gooo fishing together.. ;D
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 12:04:36 PM »

Did you read the liberal's pamphlet 5 ways to a better B.C................# 4.... says "to have a world class fishery"

I'll scan it and post it later.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 12:54:01 PM »

Did you read the liberal's pamphlet 5 ways to a better B.C................# 4.... says "to have a world class fishery"

I'll scan it and post it later.

That would be great Jim.

I am still waiting to hear from a Liberal representative. I emailed both parties in the same day. I got a response from the NDP in 3 days and nothing from the Liberals yet. I had a couple other questions not regarding our fishery and those questions have yet to be answered by either party. Their answers are what I am basing my vote on. This is going to be the hardest vote I have had to make since being legal age to vote.
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 05:24:37 PM »

So a week ago I emailed both the NDP and Liberals and asked them several questions. With the upcoming election I wanted some answers regarding a few topics. One of them was what they plan to do about fish farms.

So I just got off the phone with an NDP fish critic I wont mention the name. Basically in a nutshell the NDP's solution is for close containment fish farms in the ocean. So they would have to build concrete barriers for it to be closed.

So looks like my bet with Geff is pretty safe ;)

  Well now I really hope the NDP win. I could use another Tim's card  ;) ;D
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Re: NDP's solution to fish farms
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 06:50:25 PM »

Wow, NDP was in power for many years, what did they do?  By 1995 salmon fish farm reached approx. 80 salmon farms.  NDP regime in BC was from 1991 to 2001.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 06:53:10 PM »

Wow, NDP was in power for many years, what did they do?  By 1995 salmon fish farm reached approx. 80 salmon farms.  NDP regime in BC was from 1991 to 2001.

  And what is it at now that the Liberals are in power. The Liberals where the ones that lifted the moratorium on fish farming allowing more farms in.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 07:21:26 PM »

I dont think it was NDP that said at the steelhead summit (a few weeks ago) "there is no money for steelhead", I wonder who it was? ::) ::)
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