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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dennisK on November 17, 2022, 07:10:17 PM

Title: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: dennisK on November 17, 2022, 07:10:17 PM
argh.
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: dennisK on November 17, 2022, 07:10:42 PM
 
It occured to me after a few glasses of wine that daisy chaining split rings is a good way to use smaller eyed hooks. I took a picture. Hope it helps someone.

(https://i.ibb.co/nscKGjm/IMG-20221117-190100.jpg)
 
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: Wiseguy on November 17, 2022, 09:15:36 PM
I use 2 to 3 inches of fly line backing tied to the bottom of the spoon to a smaller single barbless trailer hook so to not harm the fish I want to release. I was losing way to many cohos before switching to this method. Much better landing ratio since I started doing this. Saw it on this forum and gave it a try. It works.
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: ern on November 17, 2022, 10:18:16 PM
I use 2 to 3 inches of fly line backing tied to the bottom of the spoon to a smaller single barbless trailer hook so to not harm the fish I want to release. I was losing way to many cohos before switching to this method. Much better landing ratio since I started doing this. Saw it on this forum and gave it a try. It works.

I remember that! it was poster 'every day' who always had great insight. Here's the thread:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36501.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36501.0)
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: Darko on November 17, 2022, 10:27:56 PM

It occured to me after a few glasses of wine that daisy chaining split rings is a good way to use smaller eyed hooks. I took a picture. Hope it helps someone.

(https://i.ibb.co/nscKGjm/IMG-20221117-190100.jpg)
I notice that your hook is on a second split ring not on the main one. All of my lures have it on the main one and I did think a couple times that the limited range of motion might be affecting my results with lures with has been pretty poor? I feel like the fly line technique might be hard for me to do with over 50 lures.
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: clarki on November 17, 2022, 10:42:05 PM
Thanks, Dennis. Just a week or two ago, I was thinking about started a hack thread too! :)

I came across open eye barrel swivels a few days ago
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Black_Stainless_Steel_Open_Eye_Rolling_Swivels/descpage-VOS.html

Can't vouch for them but I'm thinking they'd be useful in avoiding a split ring when you want to add a swivel to the top of a spinner or spoon.
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: RalphH on November 18, 2022, 07:24:24 AM

It occured to me after a few glasses of wine that daisy chaining split rings is a good way to use smaller eyed hooks. I took a picture. Hope it helps someone.



as long as the narrow eye octopus hook tracks correctly behind the spoon this looks like a great idea. If that's the case, Owner hooks have a larger eye & might be worth a try. There are also siwash ( open eye) octopus hooks available.
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on November 18, 2022, 08:20:21 AM
Iv always used a swivel between the spoon split ring and hook for a similar affect . Way better landing ratios as well . Thought of trying the other method but I feel the noise from the metal clanging against the spoons wiggle might actually attract bites as apposed to a noiseless piece of fly line backing or Dacron or whatever . 🤷‍♂️ I’m sure there’s benefits to both
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: Wiseguy on November 18, 2022, 08:31:11 AM
I remember that! it was poster 'every day' who always had great insight. Here's the thread:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36501.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36501.0)
Yes! That’s the guy who was on this forum explaining the setup. Works like a hot dam! I always get a puzzled look when I ask for 6 feet of fly line backing to purchase. Lol
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: dennisK on November 18, 2022, 10:06:52 AM
Yes! That’s the guy who was on this forum explaining the setup. Works like a hot dam! I always get a puzzled look when I ask for 6 feet of fly line backing to purchase. Lol

That's a good one too. Here's a simple breakdown on how to tie the trailin hook. I've also gotten it to work using 100lb braid.

https://outdooraddictions.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/the-trailing-hook-method/
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: Phronesis on November 18, 2022, 12:43:31 PM
Good to learn new techniques, will definitely give this a try
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: MetalAndFeathers on November 18, 2022, 01:48:47 PM
I have used the split ring daisy chain and had terrible landing ratios day after day. Switched to split ring-swivel-siwash and the difference was night and day but everyone should experiment to find what works best for them
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: dennisK on November 18, 2022, 05:20:59 PM
I have used the split ring daisy chain and had terrible landing ratios day after day. Switched to split ring-swivel-siwash and the difference was night and day but everyone should experiment to find what works best for them

I wonder if the effectiveness was due more to the increase in distance from hook to body vs the action generated by adding the swivel.

Would having a split ring+swivel+split ring setup also recreate that success you had... (I've got a lifetime supply of non siwash hooks and would prefer using them up)

(https://i.redd.it/mhhmbytkkml81.jpg)
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: clarki on November 18, 2022, 09:05:25 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/nscKGjm/IMG-20221117-190100.jpg)

I've got a lifetime supply of non siwash hooks

I think the same could be said for your split ring collection…😀
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: sugartooth on November 18, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
This is how I set up my spoons. Hook point up. No issues landing fish.
https://youtu.be/h_o6WMKTbzA
Title: Re: A hack. Daisy chain split rings for your lures.
Post by: dennisK on November 19, 2022, 06:04:38 PM
I think the same could be said for your split ring collection…😀

haha; I bequeath my split ring collection to....