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Title: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2022, 02:37:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gqfi4bS.jpg)

It is that time of the year again! The fall salmon fishery in Chilliwack/Vedder River takes place between late August and early December. Like past seasons, I usually like to get this information up and provide ongoing updates so those who are new to the fishery can have a chance to enjoy what this river has to offer by learning proper techniques, staying informed on regulations and etiquettes.


Fish species

Four salmon species are found in this river during these months in 2022, but only some can be targeted and/or retained.



Fishing regulations

The salmon regulations of Chilliwack River, including the daily quota of each species, can be found in Region 2 of the Freshwater salmon supplement (https://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html).


Cultus Lake sockeye salmon alert

Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are endangered and usually enter the Chilliwack River in late summer so their run time overlaps with other fall salmon species. All sockeye salmon caught in the Chilliwack River are required to be released carefully. Please be aware of the difference between a coho and a sockeye salmon. Some Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are also missing their adipose fin so please don't confuse them with hatchery-marked coho salmon. Read about it some more... (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/files/2012-08-24-adipose-clipped-sockeye-alert.pdf)


How to float fish more effectively for coho salmon?

To effectively catch salmon on the Vedder by float fishing, you want to keep your offerings in the strike zone. New anglers have a tendency to mistaken the strike zone as the depth where the fish are sitting. It is not. Salmonids look up and strike at the offerings above them. The fish position themselves near the bottom, so the strike zone is usually 1 or 2 feet above the river bed. This technique does not only apply to the Chilliwack River, but also other Lower Fraser River tributaries.

Gear setup

Rod:9' to 10'6" baitcasting or centerpin rod, rated between 8 and 20lb
Reel:Small baitcasting reels or centerpin reels
Main line:12 to 15lb test
Leader:6 to 10lb test
Hook:Size 4 to 2/0

The diagrams below illustrate the correct and not-so-correct ways of float depth adjustment.

Excessive length of leader

(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/050918_2.gif)

For some reason, many people believe a longer leader would produce more fish, quite the opposite! Your hook will always travel faster than your weight in a river. By using a long leader, your hook and bait are lifted up higher from the river bed, away from the strike zone.

Excessive float depth

(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/050918_3.gif)

Some choose to adjust their float depth so the weight is "tapping" or sitting on the bottom. The weight will usually anchor itself to the river bed, while the float drifts slowly or becomes stationary. Two things will result from this setup:


My way of float adjustment, but not necessarily the ONLY way

(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/050918_1.gif)

So far this has worked very well by producing about a dozen or more coho each season on the Vedder River without losing any hook, weight or line. I usually like to keep my leader length (the line between the hook and weight) around 1.5 feet in length. Judging the depth by looking at the gradient of the river bank and the water, I adjust my float depth (the length from the float to the hook) so that it is about 1 to 2 feet shorter than the actual depth. When this is drifted, the bait will lift a few inches higher, remaining in the strike zone. When the float dips under the water, there is no hesitation as I don't need to question whether it is a snag or a fish. The hook is usually set hard and most of the time the fight is on.

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Some other small adjustments

I find these adjustments would connect me into more fish in the past.



Video resources

Some videos to get you started.



Water condition updates

Throughout the season, members will post up water condition updates so everyone can be alerted if condition is not ideal. Please feel free to post updates in this thread after your trips. We can all benefit from each other's updates and save gasoline and cost of our season. Please do not ask for updates. All requests will be deleted.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2022, 02:37:54 AM
Vedder River trail closures August 30th - September 14th 2022 (https://www.chilliwack.com/main/page.cfm?id=3074)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Clipped.Adipose on September 01, 2022, 08:15:14 AM
I have already seen springs cruising around! It’s starting!!!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on September 01, 2022, 09:48:55 AM
Go after Sep 14
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: coastangler on September 01, 2022, 10:04:48 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gqfi4bS.jpg)

Thanks Rod, excited for the season. And that's a great looking Chum! (hopefully I'm right ;D )
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chum Slayer on September 01, 2022, 11:50:58 AM
don't go until we get rain, without rain we won't get a good push of fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 01, 2022, 09:15:40 PM
I went there today, saw one giant chinook but thats it, no schools or anything, water is very clear, hope we get some rain soon, cant wait to go out again
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 01, 2022, 09:54:58 PM
I went there today, saw one giant chinook but thats it, no schools or anything, water is very clear, hope we get some rain soon, cant wait to go out again
excited to see how the hatchery number enhancements will bring in more fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dobrolub on September 02, 2022, 09:02:06 AM
Does anyone else notice that actual water levels seem to be a lot lower than the wateroffice reported levels? Am I completely wrong here?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: CohoJake on September 02, 2022, 09:37:42 AM
I've been away from the river since Covid (stupid border ;D). In that time I have become enamored with soft beads. What have people found are the best sizes and colors for fall chinook and coho in the Vedder? In other systems, my go-to bead for chinook is cerise in larger sizes (14m to 20mm). For coho, I like 10mm to 16mm in cerise or shrimp colors.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: cabro on September 02, 2022, 11:39:18 AM
Does anyone else notice that actual water levels seem to be a lot lower than the wateroffice reported levels? Am I completely wrong here?

I've seen it mentioned a couple times on Social Media that it hasn't been accurate since the flood and might be reading up to 1 meter higher than it used to. Hopefully it will get fixed.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on September 03, 2022, 06:42:18 PM
The flow vs height relationship always changes a bit year to year (sometimes quite a bit), but this year is completely out of whack compared to historical values, presumably due to last year's flood. There was a discussion here about how those values are derived, but I dont recall the specific details

I've seen it mentioned a couple times on Social Media that it hasn't been accurate since the flood and might be reading up to 1 meter higher than it used to. Hopefully it will get fixed.

Maybe not quite a meter, but the current reported flow would have been about 60 cm lower last year. One will have to recalibrate their expectations, knowing that comparisons to previous years may not be valid
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 03, 2022, 07:25:27 PM
I haven't been there since the November deluge and am kind of wondering what it will look like this fall. Now there will gravel removal around the KW bridge and above which there isn't even a point in heading up there for a look until after they are done! The world keeps on changing!

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 04, 2022, 11:43:39 AM
Since the water levels are higher than normal shouldn't more fish be pushing in, and earlier.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 04, 2022, 11:57:54 AM
Since the water levels are higher than normal shouldn't more fish be pushing in, and earlier.

There's only one way to find out... ;)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 04, 2022, 03:49:01 PM
There's only one way to find out... ;)

I await your report.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 04, 2022, 04:16:50 PM
No reports this weekend? No one went out on weekends ?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: cabro on September 04, 2022, 04:45:21 PM
No reports this weekend? No one went out on weekends ?

I was out on Friday, not many people fishing, still lots of out enjoying a dip in the river. Not even a sniff and didn't see anyone else catch either. Water is super low. Definitely could use some rain.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 05, 2022, 07:12:15 AM
No reports this weekend? No one went out on weekends ?
Going out right now. Hopefully the rain helped some fish push in
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 05, 2022, 11:45:56 AM
Was out this morn and there were a few fish around, but the water is gin clear and no fish were biting.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 05, 2022, 12:18:52 PM
I've released a new video for those who are looking into casting and retrieving lures for coho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by3jxiuHATM
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 05, 2022, 06:20:15 PM
Was out this morn and there were a few fish around, but the water is gin clear and no fish were biting.

Train bridge is the only place I saw action. 2 Landed 5+ hooked. (Not me but others I saw). 2 also landed close to the slab aswell by another angler so there are some fish up there already!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 05, 2022, 08:06:15 PM
hvala darko!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 05, 2022, 08:20:46 PM
Going out right now. Hopefully the rain helped some fish push in

Went today - didn't see any fish nor anyone catching any .....
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 05, 2022, 10:01:10 PM
Went today - didn't see any fish nor anyone catching any .....
Where were you fishing?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 05, 2022, 10:05:32 PM
Where were you fishing?

Vedder canal  & vedder crossing ......
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 05, 2022, 10:16:29 PM
We're all meeting at the train bridge tomorrow at 5am right? ;)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 06, 2022, 09:39:59 AM
Went today - didn't see any fish nor anyone catching any .....

You need to find this honey hole.

https://youtu.be/N-8ibthyZ8E?t=42
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Cyanescens on September 06, 2022, 10:09:32 AM
has anyone been downstream of the gravel extraction to see how its affecting water clarity?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on September 06, 2022, 10:58:15 AM
Went for a boat ride Sunday up to the Hwy bridge and the clarity was very poor.  Thought it might have been coming out of the Sumas but it was dirty above as well.  Still seen 2 fish hooked at the boundary markers and a few rollers.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on September 06, 2022, 12:09:18 PM
Roeman - The water was dirty due to the pump station being drained below Keith Wilson .
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 06, 2022, 08:02:53 PM
I've seen vodka with more colour than the Vedder right now and the fish are uninterested.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 06, 2022, 08:07:16 PM
I've seen vodka with more colour than the Vedder right now and the fish are uninterested.

Maybe the conditions will be better on the weekend once the heatwave is done  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 08, 2022, 09:37:23 AM
Went there yesterday, saw couple of red springs jumping but no bites, but people had success with whites......... then checked train bridge - lol it was packed.
Does anyone know why late red springs dont bite at all? I have noticed this last year too - nothing seem to entice them
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: CohoJake on September 08, 2022, 10:25:31 AM
Went there yesterday, saw couple of red springs jumping but no bites, but people had success with whites......... then checked train bridge - lol it was packed.
Does anyone know why late red springs dont bite at all? I have noticed this last year too - nothing seem to entice them
They've been in the river too long, they're "stale". And if you see them holding up by the cement slab, those fish have probably been snagged every day for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 08, 2022, 10:51:27 AM
They've been in the river too long, they're "stale". And if you see them holding up by the cement slab, those fish have probably been snagged every day for 2 weeks.

That explains !! Poor fish, they may not have enough strength to go upstream anymore, I did see people flossing/snagging them
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 08, 2022, 07:52:10 PM
They've been in the river too long, they're "stale". And if you see them holding up by the cement slab, those fish have probably been snagged every day for 2 weeks.

i just heard. the SLAB is gone. the floods took it according to Petr last april. Wow.  End of an era.


https://youtu.be/JclhQXwjadQ
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 09, 2022, 04:24:38 PM
Anyone know how many pits they are digging out on the Vedder? Hearing one finished above the train bridge but haven't been able to find the actual plan for more.
(https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/305655301_2800441193421633_2505314970466361115_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=bRvvCislrTwAX8HFxCV&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=00_AT_hE3mVJwfYLF8Hqrx1vSNTF9icsel1XDVcFTNw3tvUag&oe=631FC08D)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 11, 2022, 10:06:54 AM
I believe there are three.

It's super smoky out here btw... I'd rather be somewhere else than Chilliwack right now.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 11, 2022, 03:14:16 PM
Hit the Vedder this morn and saw a few fish killed. Haven't seen a Coho yet...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on September 12, 2022, 08:16:04 AM
Sure wish they would have dug from above upper Wilson to above waistfield  area there . Really filled up with gravel and wood debris the last flood we had. Would be nice to see the river brought away from that property and the road as well . Area will likely braid bad with each high water now . Crews were working around the tolmie slide above the trailer park last week removing wood debris along the bank. The worker said it was due to tubing safety concerns 🤔 I have yet to see a coho as well with 3 trips to mouth and 3 trips in the river float fishing .
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 14, 2022, 05:19:33 PM
anybody have any reports? Hows the fishing?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on September 14, 2022, 06:13:34 PM
anybody have any reports? Hows the fishing?

Saw couple guys on instagram who caught like 5-6 today. Lower river.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 14, 2022, 06:30:10 PM
Saw couple guys on instagram who caught like 5-6 today. Lower river.
chinooks? or coho?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on September 14, 2022, 06:33:02 PM
chinooks? or coho?

All nooks. Guessing water is way too low/clear and any coho in are spooked if not bullied out of pools.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 14, 2022, 06:54:48 PM
All nooks. Guessing water is way too low/clear and any coho in are spooked if not bullied out of pools.
thanks for the info  :)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fic on September 14, 2022, 07:15:58 PM
The Test catches of Chum Salmon in area 29 has been poor so far, even compared to last year when it was closed during the season.  It's not looking good again this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 16, 2022, 07:49:15 AM
I don't think I'm giving away any secret locations; but folks fishing around browne rd (i've never fished that yarrow side before)...where do you park? is it off bergman or browne or? I imagine it's about a 1 km walk then? Thanks for any directions ..cheers
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Spoonman on September 16, 2022, 06:52:47 PM
   .....very limited parking at Bergman .....Browne is the better option
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 16, 2022, 06:58:10 PM
I don't think I'm giving away any secret locations; but folks fishing around browne rd (i've never fished that yarrow side before)...where do you park? is it off bergman or browne or? I imagine it's about a 1 km walk then? Thanks for any directions ..cheers

Yup browne is better in terms of parking and bit of a hike towards some spots... Also the trail is closed before the train bridge area
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 17, 2022, 03:34:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AbSnDAbFWg
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on September 17, 2022, 10:16:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AbSnDAbFWg

Well, that's one solution to address a parking/distance issue! LOL.

Nice vid Rod! The adventure back seemed a bit sketchy, but I'm glad it worked out. Now get your waders cleaned up!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: mikeyman on September 17, 2022, 11:44:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AbSnDAbFWg
Put your fish in a garbage bag. Then pack in the back compartment of the fishing vest. Much easier. Vest instead of pack when riding the bike.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: tworivers on September 17, 2022, 12:21:37 PM
I was thinking about that familiar fall smell when I was in the area. And here it was Rodney testing a new FWR product line of hanging air fresheners. ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 17, 2022, 02:27:02 PM
I've never seen so many anglers as I did at the bend in the canal this morning. I just drove by on the KW bridge and gagged at what I saw. It boggles me what people will accept as a day of fishing but it is a free country.

Found a spot where I was all by myself and hooked 5 landed 1.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: salmonrook on September 17, 2022, 03:06:29 PM
Quote
I've never seen so many anglers as I did at the bend in the canal this morning. I just drove by on the KW bridge and gagged at what I saw. It boggles me what people will accept as a day of fishing but it is a free country.


 Canal when it is this low should  be closed to fishing , was there Friday and it was basically 10 people on top of each other fishing the one run that was 10 feet wide . How are the fish supposed to get upstream when they are targeted and stressed in this section .
They have enough challenge with the low water .
Hopefully we get some rain
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 17, 2022, 04:10:32 PM
You didn't like the human train at the corner? 😆

I was thinking about that familiar fall smell when I was in the area. And here it was Rodney testing a new FWR product line of hanging air fresheners. ;D

I was leaving a trail of ivory king scent. 😆

Well, that's one solution to address a parking/distance issue! LOL.

Nice vid Rod! The adventure back seemed a bit sketchy, but I'm glad it worked out. Now get your waders cleaned up!

The silt in the canal is what I dislike it the most I think. If I can avoid fishing the canal to stay silt-free, I totally would. The crowd doesn't bother me that much. I always bounce around to find a quiet spot, and if I choose to fish in a crowd I'd just accept it and have a great time with everyone. :)

Put your fish in a garbage bag. Then pack in the back compartment of the fishing vest. Much easier. Vest instead of pack when riding the bike.

For over 15 years now I've made an effort to not put my fish in a garbage/plastic bag when carrying them back to the car. I like to carry them as they are, and get them straight on ice in the cooler once I am at my vehicle. I figure that I probably have avoided wasting a few hundred plastic bags by doing this over the years.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: 4x4 on September 17, 2022, 04:24:32 PM
I gut my fish right away once caught. Into a wet a wet burlap sack and then up to the truck and put on ice.. If I'm bonking a fish I want that fish to be good quality when eaten.

Tip for White Springs. They are a smelly fish and I know that turns off people but they are great eating and with that high oil content they are perfect for smoking and tempura.
After I catch a Spring I rub the sand/silt on the skin and get as much slime off as I can. I will then scrape the fish with a knife and do the process over a few times. It does take time but worth it for me in the end. It gets almost all the smell off the fish.
Not all.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: someone on September 19, 2022, 10:00:16 AM
Saw a guy catch spring in the lower river and was playing with it forever and then when finally landed he took couple of pictures and released it ! A few minutes later I see the same spring floating down dead. Sheesh...Why play with it for so long only to release them .......
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 19, 2022, 10:08:13 AM
Saw a guy catch spring in the lower river and was playing with it forever and then when finally landed he took couple of pictures and released it ! A few minutes later I see the same spring floating down dead. Sheesh...Why play with it for so long only to release them .......
I hope someone was able to nab it and bring it home instead of wasting it
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: sumasriver on September 19, 2022, 10:37:03 AM
I hope someone was able to nab it and bring it home instead of wasting it

nature will find a use for it.... nature wastes nothing.....
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 19, 2022, 10:52:25 AM
nature will find a use for it.... nature wastes nothing.....
its true that the nutrients will help the land or feed some birds but the fish is still more worth the spawning resource tho ofc you can never control it fully.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 19, 2022, 02:25:31 PM
Some instructional video content for those who want to try out the soft beads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-3pYqpsi0w
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on September 19, 2022, 05:50:29 PM
its true that the nutrients will help the land or feed some birds but the fish is still more worth the spawning resource tho ofc you can never control it fully.

99% chance hatchery fish though, don't want too many spawning in the wild.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 19, 2022, 05:51:30 PM
99% chance hatchery fish though, don't want too many spawning in the wild.
why would it be a bad thing? Is it because the river cannot sustain more fish or what?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 19, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
spawning hatchery fish tend to have less favorable genetics as the hatchery bypasses the Darwinian imperative...survival of the fittest!

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 19, 2022, 09:07:41 PM
spawning hatchery fish tend to have less favorable genetics as the hatchery bypasses the Darwinian imperative...survival of the fittest!
gee how did I not think of that. That makes sense Ralph, guess I should've payed more attention to my biology teacher  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on September 19, 2022, 10:19:48 PM
gee how did I not think of that. That makes sense Ralph, guess I should've payed more attention to my biology teacher  ;D

Nicknamed bucket fish for a reason. Fish are scooped out of the spawning channel and then chose for sperm and eggs. (probably a little bit more choosy than scooped, but you get the idea)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 20, 2022, 03:12:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cQQaL5L.jpg)

The last several weeks I have spent a lot of time highlighting all the dumpings of Fraser River sockeye salmon. A lot of fingers have been pointing at First Nation fishers whenever these postings come up. I do think there is a need to talk abou this, but at the same time we can't label an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. There are lots of positive and innovative things in First Nations' communal fisheries and I intend to highlight those whenever I am invited to do so. I also want to point out that the blatant waste happens within the sportfishing sector too. This photo was sent to me today, taken near the upper recreational fishing boundary on the Chilliwack River. These are white chinook salmon, most likely caught by recreational fishers, with their abdomen cut open so the eggs were taken while the fish were discarded. Not only is this illegal, once again it's just unnecessary waste. I guess this is partly why I've started using less roe and encouraging others to do so as well. If you're going to retain a fish, use the entire fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Spoonman on September 20, 2022, 04:14:49 PM
spawning hatchery fish tend to have less favorable genetics as the hatchery bypasses the Darwinian imperative...survival of the fittest!
......if they return after 3 to 4 years in the ocean they are the fittest....no hatchery staff feeding  or protecting them out in the chuck!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on September 20, 2022, 04:27:38 PM
......if they return after 3 to 4 years in the ocean they are the fittest....no hatchery staff feeding  or protecting them out in the chuck!
Exactly.... This idea that a hatchery fish should not be able to spawn is just plain stupid.. The genetics of the egg or spunk are still there whether or not it happens in a side channel of the river or in a hatchery. 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: samw on September 20, 2022, 04:55:05 PM
Exactly.... This idea that a hatchery fish should not be able to spawn is just plain stupid.. The genetics of the egg or spunk are still there whether or not it happens in a side channel of the river or in a hatchery.

Too many hatchery fish inbreeding would produce more genetic defects and reduce genetic diversity in future generations.  The hatchery fish are produced from a small number of broodstock.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: sbc hris on September 20, 2022, 06:17:50 PM
Too many hatchery fish inbreeding would produce more genetic defects and reduce genetic diversity in future generations.  The hatchery fish are produced from a small number of broodstock.

That's the idea as I understand it. The genetic diversity gets watered down. Instead of 2 fish from a breeding pair making it back to spawn, you get maybe 10 fish from a breeding pair (because more fish survive to a larger stage in the hatchery). After several generations that really starts to add up.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 24, 2022, 02:38:24 PM
A few coho showing... (https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/307947276_10166950143800012_3772912617692808520_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=xL-md1wawj8AX9UO4_R&_nc_oc=AQm4Mhf6mY7Y-MJMz-zRGBhhyHd5Y3gldbC9M2qJ7zCipmENjQduPO1RArffwIc5skYqe62Dd4Mc2c8ekSS0kP_q&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=00_AT-ZBBJZtgSDwYajiWzf4UXhhVL6LnTAgVOahuzUIYehqQ&oe=6334D104)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 24, 2022, 03:02:05 PM
A few coho showing... (https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/307947276_10166950143800012_3772912617692808520_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=xL-md1wawj8AX9UO4_R&_nc_oc=AQm4Mhf6mY7Y-MJMz-zRGBhhyHd5Y3gldbC9M2qJ7zCipmENjQduPO1RArffwIc5skYqe62Dd4Mc2c8ekSS0kP_q&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=00_AT-ZBBJZtgSDwYajiWzf4UXhhVL6LnTAgVOahuzUIYehqQ&oe=6334D104)
nice fish!
I saw today on facebook that somebody had their gas tank drilled into and drained. (Ford explorer) crimes like these and catalytic converter thefts are concerning as well as break ins. Although I'm less likely to be a target because I drive a nissan versa what can one do to prevent stuff like this from happening. The fact we need to think about stuff like this when we fishing is awful.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Wiseguy on September 25, 2022, 06:16:20 PM
Reading in the local paper Chilliwack is experiencing the driest September in history since record keeping started in 1879. The previous record was in 1951. That’s how bad the drought is. The salmon don’t stand a chance from the hordes of anglers pounding them in this low water.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 25, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
Reading in the local paper Chilliwack is experiencing the driest September in history since 1879. That’s how bad the drought is. The salmon don’t stand a chance from the hordes of anglers pounding them in this low water.

global warming; but what was their reason in 1879 to be so low. Industrially speaking we've been far more intense in the 20th century the the 19th.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 25, 2022, 08:14:09 PM
it's more about the cumulative 'records' being set not just one. We have had a number of hottest summers with successive record wildfire seasons over the last several years. I personally can't remember summers with the sort of smoke we have experienced in BC since 2015. November's rain and the successive "atmospheric rivers" we saw have few precedents. This spring was the coldest in 77 years mostly because of the prevalent overcast and rain we experienced. Climatologists have warned climate change does not just mean a warmer climate but means a climate of greater extremes than the world has seen since recorded history.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 25, 2022, 08:38:05 PM
Some chum salmon in the vedder river.....not one off instance, went to two different spot and both had chum there.... Interesting to see how one species change their cycle a bit...could be Global warming ?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 25, 2022, 08:40:37 PM
It's not unusual to see chum salmon in this system in late September really, we always have found them. It seems that you get that little early push, then there is a pause, and another bigger push in October, and finally a good push in November.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Wiseguy on September 25, 2022, 09:08:21 PM
global warming; but what was their reason in 1879 to be so low. Industrially speaking we've been far more intense in the 20th century the the 19th.
I edited my post. I didn’t word it properly.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 26, 2022, 07:43:19 AM
It's not unusual to see chum salmon in this system in late September really, we always have found them. It seems that you get that little early push, then there is a pause, and another bigger push in October, and finally a good push in November.
Oh ! Good to know ! Thanks
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 26, 2022, 10:52:16 AM
anyone getting any 20+ pound chinook, seen a lot on social media in the 10-15 pound range but nothing over 20.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 26, 2022, 11:10:49 AM
anyone getting any 20+ pound chinook, seen a lot on social media in the 10-15 pound range but nothing over 20.

I saw a guy pull a huge chinook just yesterday, easily 20+
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 26, 2022, 11:15:54 AM
I saw a guy pull a huge chinook just yesterday, easily 20+

right on there's been some bigs ones out front in the salt this year more 30+ pound ones than usual, even a couple over 40 this year.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 26, 2022, 11:40:18 AM
As of Friday, there are about 2,000 fish in the channel at the Chilliwack River Hatchery, about 50/50 chinook and coho. Very likely many more came in over the weekend.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 26, 2022, 12:43:32 PM
As of Friday, there are about 2,000 fish in the channel at the Chilliwack River Hatchery, about 50/50 chinook and coho. Very likely many more came in over the weekend.

thanks for the update rod, is the plan still to take 2million chinook eggs?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on September 26, 2022, 01:18:15 PM
Just wondering if the fishing boundary signs at the mouth of the Vedder are there for decoration or is there a purpose.  Couple of days in a row now I seen boats anchored well below the boundary signs.  Ignorant, stupid or entitled.  One boat had decals plastered all over it " Sturgeon Slayers"  If its too busy above the boundary signs I guess the entiltled people think its ok to fish below. 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 26, 2022, 01:22:15 PM
Just wondering if the fishing boundary signs at the mouth of the Vedder are there for decoration or is there a purpose.  Couple of days in a row now I seen boats anchored well below the boundary signs.  Ignorant, stupid or entitled.  One boat had decals plastered all over it " Sturgeon Slayers"  If its too busy above the boundary signs I guess the entiltled people think its ok to fish below.

This horse has been beaten to death on this website, if you think its a problem report to DFO, include pictures
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 26, 2022, 01:31:19 PM
right on there's been some bigs ones out front in the salt this year more 30+ pound ones than usual, even a couple over 40 this year.

Wow, never seen 40+ lbs chinook.....well i just started 2-3 yrs ago so very limited experience
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on September 26, 2022, 02:52:51 PM
It's not unusual to see chum salmon in this system in late September really, we always have found them. It seems that you get that little early push, then there is a pause, and another bigger push in October, and finally a good push in November.

There used to be an August run as well!  The brightest and least sexually developed chum I have seen in the Vedder are (sorry, were !) found in January.  I have seen spawning chums in mid February and a dying, spawned female on March 15
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Cyanescens on September 26, 2022, 04:45:48 PM
Just wondering if the fishing boundary signs at the mouth of the Vedder are there for decoration or is there a purpose.  Couple of days in a row now I seen boats anchored well below the boundary signs.  Ignorant, stupid or entitled.  One boat had decals plastered all over it " Sturgeon Slayers"  If its too busy above the boundary signs I guess the entiltled people think its ok to fish below.

There are far worse things to complain about than a couple of anglers catching hatchery fish that are obviously bound for the vedder. Some of the most consistent fishing is at the mouth (Used to fish it back in the day when it was open). As WMY says, if it really bothers you, report it. Or just leave those guys alone, mind your business, and stop being a Karen.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Clarki Hunter on September 26, 2022, 04:54:03 PM
As of Friday, there are about 2,000 fish in the channel at the Chilliwack River Hatchery, about 50/50 chinook and coho. Very likely many more came in over the weekend.

It's amazing they made it past the gauntlet in the canal and the crossing!  I thought for sure the run would be devastated  ;) ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on September 26, 2022, 05:24:51 PM
There are far worse things to complain about than a couple of anglers catching hatchery fish that are obviously bound for the vedder. Some of the most consistent fishing is at the mouth (Used to fish it back in the day when it was open). As WMY says, if it really bothers you, report it. Or just leave those guys alone, mind your business, and stop being a Karen.
Leave them alone.  Another stupid person making a comment. But its not open.. I was simply asking if fishing below was an issue..   I guess not.  Why have any regulations. I would love to see how big your mouth is face to face...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 26, 2022, 06:43:26 PM
There are far worse things to complain about than a couple of anglers catching hatchery fish that are obviously bound for the vedder. Some of the most consistent fishing is at the mouth (Used to fish it back in the day when it was open). As WMY says, if it really bothers you, report it. Or just leave those guys alone, mind your business, and stop being a Karen.

You are in the wrong place if you think not following regs is acceptable.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 26, 2022, 07:04:40 PM
And this is how this discussion goes every year
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: avid angler on September 27, 2022, 01:22:06 AM
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Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: VictorBai on September 27, 2022, 08:08:56 AM
The rain forecast this week has been reduced from 3 rainy days to 1 day as of today.

Does a low water level postpone the prime season of salmon returns in the Vedder? Or does this cause more casualties?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 27, 2022, 08:38:35 AM
The rain forecast this week has been reduced from 3 rainy days to 1 day as of today.

Does a low water level postpone the prime season of salmon returns in the Vedder? Or does this cause more casualties?

Generally coast wide the season seems to be a bit later this year 1 to 2 weeks
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on September 27, 2022, 09:11:41 AM
Looks like seasons have shifted by few weeks
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on September 27, 2022, 10:52:43 AM
It's not unusual to see chum salmon in this system in late September really, we always have found them. It seems that you get that little early push, then there is a pause, and another bigger push in October, and finally a good push in November.

I've always wondered if these 'pushes' are distinct spawning sub-populations with slightly different run timings, or if it's some sort of evolutionary hedge against varying conditions.

There used to be an August run as well!  The brightest and least sexually developed chum I have seen in the Vedder are (sorry, were !) found in January.  I have seen spawning chums in mid February and a dying, spawned female on March 15
That's pretty amazing. There's no system noawadays that has chum for potentially 8 months. The way you describe it does seem to suggest it could be (now extinct) unique spawning populations.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on September 27, 2022, 11:24:30 AM
I've always wondered if these 'pushes' are distinct spawning sub-populations with slightly different run timings, or if it's some sort of evolutionary hedge against varying conditions.
That's pretty amazing. There's no system noawadays that has chum for potentially 8 months. The way you describe it does seem to suggest it could be (now extinct) unique spawning populations.
These early run chum are unique and are possibly still existing, thing is we don't know because no one looks.  This stock is one Rodney, myself, buck and Matt Foy have been touting as a possible FN enhancement project.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 27, 2022, 12:54:54 PM
the benefit of spending government money on enhancing a late summer chum stock eludes me. Hunter creek and the Coq has a similar return in late August and September. The Chilliwack fish may be strays or the vestige bits of stock that can't get going naturally. If money must be spent to fill the banks of the river with anglers in August why not the early coho returns?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on September 27, 2022, 08:00:46 PM
I have no motivation to go out to the vedder until it rains, need those fishermen to spread out. Anyone else?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: jackster on September 28, 2022, 08:17:33 AM
Do not go near the river this Saturday.
There's gonna be a snag fest with some kind of Chinese fishing tournament held by DNE.
Why they want to do this when water is so low is beyond me.
Apparently fish caught up in the arse is accepted.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 28, 2022, 08:26:21 AM
I really want to fish but this is the driest summer and early fall we have had in some time. I can't believe what has happened on the VC with the number of people fishing now. Maybe 10 years ago I recall a day I fished the canal, caught 2 springs, killed a bright 12lb and hooked 5 coho, landed 3 all wild. Tide was coming in and I saw a total of 1 angler on the other shore that day. Last fall quiet places I walked some distance to saw family groups of 8+ people show up. It  is really kind of a downer. I guess I have to get use to fishing in crowds again. I don't know why. Perhaps the publicized doubling of the white spring releases brought this on?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 28, 2022, 09:27:06 AM
I really want to fish but this is the driest summer and early fall we have had in some time. I can't believe what has happened on the VC with the number of people fishing now. Maybe 10 years ago I recall a day I fished the canal, caught 2 springs, killed a bright 12lb and hooked 5 coho, landed 3 all wild. Tide was coming in and I saw a total of 1 angler on the other shore that day. Last fall quiet places I walked some distance to saw family groups of 8+ people show up. It  is really kind of a downer. I guess I have to get use to fishing in crowds again. I don't know why. Perhaps the publicized doubling of the white spring releases brought this on?

loss of opportunity elsewhere, Loss of a realistic chance to catch a fish elsewhere. Amazing weather
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: redside1 on September 28, 2022, 09:36:08 AM
loss of opportunity elsewhere, Loss of a realistic chance to catch a fish elsewhere. Amazing weather

loss of opportunity is a driver for sure. Currently many streams closed to salmon fishing (even catch & release ) so the V/C is one of the few places to go where you can not only catch something, but also retain it.
Add in a growing population. I remember fishing when there was only 700,000 people on the lower mainland and now what is it ?
A crazy 2,632,000 people.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: VictorBai on September 28, 2022, 09:59:32 AM
Do not go near the river this Saturday.
There's gonna be a snag fest with some kind of Chinese fishing tournament held by DNE.
Why they want to do this when water is so low is beyond me.
Apparently fish caught up in the arse is accepted.

As many others have suggested in the forum, if there are illegal activities, record them and report them.

It's the individuals that are fishing illegally, not an ethnic group. 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 28, 2022, 10:05:19 AM
loss of opportunity is a driver for sure. Currently many streams closed to salmon fishing (even catch & release ) so the V/C is one of the few places to go where you can not only catch something, but also retain it.
Add in a growing population. I remember fishing when there was only 700,000 people on the lower mainland and now what is it ?
A crazy 2,632,000 people.

yeah but a much smaller proportion of the public fish every year, population is going up but the amount of people buying licenses has been pretty consistent for a long time.

For salt water license, in 1999, 223,985 salmon stamps were sold, in 2021, 221,529, in 2019 pre covid even, 233,866

For fresh water Conservation Surcharge Non-Tidal Salmon


LY10/11   LY11/12   LY12/13   LY13/14   LY14/15   LY15/16   LY16/17   LY17/18   LY18/19   LY19/20   LY20/21   LY21/22

72,198   62,892   53,821   60,845   83,692   60,443   55,945   51,143   62,029   45,840   55,187   53,221
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on September 28, 2022, 10:16:57 AM
loss of opportunity is a driver for sure. Currently many streams closed to salmon fishing (even catch & release ) so the V/C is one of the few places to go where you can not only catch something, but also retain it.
Add in a growing population. I remember fishing when there was only 700,000 people on the lower mainland and now what is it ?
A crazy 2,632,000 people.
I speak the wildman dialect.

I think he meant “lots”
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 28, 2022, 10:49:45 AM
off the top of my head I can think of at least 9 rivers and streams currently open for salmon fishing in the LM/FV, not counting the Fraser. It's seems to me that it's more about where people choose to go and why. When it comes to what see on my youtube feed and on the local FB pages the focus is heavily on the VC and Stave. Salmon and conservation stamp purchases are for the entire Province and don't really tell us how many people are fishing locally. There are also some interesting bumps 14/15 and 18/19 stand out... pinks salmon returns? Both were also good coho years for me. Sport shops have also been 'directing' people to places that maybe many anglers never thought of fishing before the closures were put in place on the Fraser.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 28, 2022, 10:58:44 AM
There are also some interesting bumps 14/15 and 18/19 stand out... pinks salmon returns?

i think those are the fraser sockeye years Licence Year (LY): April 1 - March 31 (e.g. LY10/11 is April 1, 2010 - March 31, 2011)

2010,2014,2018
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 28, 2022, 11:04:54 AM
When it comes to what see on my youtube feed and on the local FB pages the focus is heavily on the VC and Stave.

Most of the local pages now have rules about posting for smaller systems

Rules
Here’s what members can expect in the group.
1
No mentioning small rivers or streams
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 28, 2022, 11:25:16 AM
License sales also doesn't provide info on how often people who buy a license fish and how often. Also seems to me more and more anglers fish frequently. it's not rare to meet anglers who claim to fish 100, 200, and even more days per year. Fishing almost exclusively on week days I know lots of anglers fish for an hour or 2 before work and then after work before going home.

There is only 1 FB page that I know of with that rule though mentioning small streams is frowned upon by some many recommend streams that I are small and have troubled salmon and trout populations
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 28, 2022, 12:08:02 PM
I remember going to the vedder 20 years ago, parked went over one bank and it was shoulder to shoulder, we got in the truck and went home.

Same with areas on the harrison river guys would be double stacked under the bridge.  (harrison closed now for chinook)

Then later in the season going to Chehalis was very busy as well.

Its also likely we will see another chum closure this year.

other areas are open sure, but vedder really is one of the last places a guy can show up and have a reasonable chance to bonk a fish and some even multiple fish days.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 28, 2022, 12:11:40 PM
I think the main reason is just that almost everybody catches their first salmon on the vedder and they believe its the only place where they can catch fish. Also has one of the best retention opportunities and good returns so attracts lots of meat hunters which can explain the behavior of some individuals. Most people are not interested in driving out to maybe catch one hatchery coho. Just is not appealing to most. I personally find much more enjoyment fishing alone in a nice atmosphere away from others even just to get a bit or catch one fish. Although the appeal of having the chance to keep 4 salmon is a strong alure.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 28, 2022, 12:12:34 PM
I remember going to the vedder 20 years ago, parked went over one bank and it was shoulder to shoulder, we got in the truck and went home.

Same with areas on the harrison river guys would be double stacked under the bridge.  (harrison closed now for chinook)

Then later in the season going to Chehalis was very busy as well.

Its also likely we will see another chum closure this year.

other areas are open sure, but vedder really is one of the last places a guy can show up and have a reasonable chance to bonk a fish and some even multiple fish days.
was there some sort of bad marine report for chum?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on September 28, 2022, 12:42:20 PM
fraser chum is looking like it could be okay, JS chum test is not looking good
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 28, 2022, 12:55:22 PM
fraser chum is looking like it could be okay, JS chum test is not looking good
what is the JS?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 28, 2022, 12:56:22 PM
Johnston Strait ?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fic on September 28, 2022, 01:16:48 PM
fraser chum is looking like it could be okay, JS chum test is not looking good
Fraser Chum caught so far is less than last year according to the Albion Chum Test Fishery.

https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fos2_Internet/Testfish/rptdtfdparm.cfm?fsub_id=227

I doubt they will open it for October 1st like they have done in the past.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: coastangler on September 28, 2022, 02:23:21 PM
I don't know why. Perhaps the publicized doubling of the white spring releases brought this on?

This is an interesting topic. Obviously more population in the Lower Mainland will result in more anglers, less retention opportunities in other rivers may impact this, etc but I also hear about this in other parts of the world. Recently in the Orvis podcast they talked about "pandemic" crowding and number of Anglers of the US popular trout rivers like the Madison, Yellowstone, Missouri and so on. Places like Patagonia also are getting more crowded based on friend reports and this summer I went to Alaska and everyone was saying how fishing pressure for Salmon in rivers has increased compared to 5 years ago. I don't have an answer to it and I don't think is just the pandemic, but I also think about this issue a lot. Wonder if we will end up in a situation like the UK where you have to apply to fish on a river and only fish the days that you have allocated.

On a similar note, I hit the CV this season while Fraser Sockeye was open (thinking that would help!), on a weekday, and was surprised to see so many anglers everywhere
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chum Slayer on September 28, 2022, 03:04:12 PM
People just go to the Vedder because it is the most popular system, very few people are interested in fishing for coastal cutthroat, rainbow, chum or the odd wild coho on small sloughs and streams. I love going to these small streams in the late fall/ early winter and tossing around flies and jigs for these fish. Maybe it would help by changing the regs to two fish per day chinook or coho of any size as long as they are above 30 cm and making the upper into fly fishing only. It would also help if instead of stocking white springs which aren't native to the Chilliwack system, we stocked chum which is the building blocks of any river system with salmon. Another thing that would help is making a limit to how many cohos a year you can keep just like chinook or steelhead, I have personally dealt with people who retain over 20 hatchery coho a year none of us are fishing for survival or sustenance we are fishing for sport and need to regard it as such if we want to fish for these magnificent fish in the future.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 28, 2022, 03:50:32 PM
the population up the valley including Chilliwack is growing fast. Many folks move up there to be close to the fishing. More folks work on line so are able to fish before and after or even work flexible shifts. Changing world

I remember crowding on the VC in the 70s and 80s but not like is today. Most people parked on the dykes and didn't go more than 50 to 100 yards from their vehicle. The Harrison can be crowded but mostly it is not except for jet boat traffic.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: lapa on September 28, 2022, 04:26:58 PM
  Most people parked on the dykes and didn't go more than 50 to 100 yards from their vehicle. 
A lot of them want to enjoy fishing and have car that they can safely drive back :)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 28, 2022, 05:10:14 PM
This is an interesting topic. Obviously more population in the Lower Mainland will result in more anglers, less retention opportunities in other rivers may impact this, etc but I also hear about this in other parts of the world. Recently in the Orvis podcast they talked about "pandemic" crowding and number of Anglers of the US popular trout rivers like the Madison, Yellowstone, Missouri and so on. Places like Patagonia also are getting more crowded based on friend reports and this summer I went to Alaska and everyone was saying how fishing pressure for Salmon in rivers has increased compared to 5 years ago. I don't have an answer to it and I don't think is just the pandemic, but I also think about this issue a lot. Wonder if we will end up in a situation like the UK where you have to apply to fish on a river and only fish the days that you have allocated.

On a similar note, I hit the CV this season while Fraser Sockeye was open (thinking that would help!), on a weekday, and was surprised to see so many anglers everywhere
thats ridiculous! I had no idea that was even a thing. Imagine only being able to fish your favorite stream for a week. Maybe the vedder isnt so bad after all...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Clarki Hunter on September 28, 2022, 05:57:57 PM
thats ridiculous! I had no idea that was even a thing. Imagine only being able to fish your favorite stream for a week. Maybe the vedder isnt so bad after all...

In Germany you have to pass a test in order to get a license.  Something I would fully support here.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Clarki Hunter on September 28, 2022, 06:00:14 PM
I'm wondering how the homeless situation is up river.  When we camped at Thurston a handful of years ago, we were told not to go to far past the campground as there was a huge encampment with aggressive dogs.  Have they gotten a handle on this or is it still bad?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 28, 2022, 06:10:10 PM
In Germany you have to pass a test in order to get a license.  Something I would fully support here.
100%, fish identification, laws and many other things should be tested. Why it is not is beyond me.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Wiseguy on September 28, 2022, 06:30:13 PM
I'm wondering how the homeless situation is up river.  When we camped at Thurston a handful of years ago, we were told not to go to far past the campground as there was a huge encampment with aggressive dogs.  Have they gotten a handle on this or is it still bad?
It’s gotten worse. Almost every pullout has homeless encampments unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 28, 2022, 06:33:06 PM
much of the feedback MLAs were getting not too many years ago was that regulations were difficult to read and too complex which was driving more casual anglers away. License sales had dropped. So the regulations were simplified & standardized to some extent. A test was established for hunting decades ago and license sales plummeted though the increase in social stigma attached to hunting was also major factor. The question is why test? Will anglers be more responsible just because they passed a test? Could be most do want to follow rules. Will it reduce the number of people buying licenses? Likely since anglers who buy a license when there is a large publicized run may balk when a test is involved. Others who want to fish a few days on vacation may also decide not to bother.  License fees now fund stocking and enhancement in the Province. fewer anglers could lead to much higher fees, which could mean fewer sales yet, a dangerous spiral.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 28, 2022, 06:44:12 PM
much of the feedback MLAs were getting not too many years ago was that regulations were difficult to read and too complex which was driving more casual anglers away. License sales had dropped. So the regulations were simplified & standardized to some extent. A test was established for hunting decades ago and license sales plummeted though the increase in social stigma attached to hunting was also major factor. The question is why test? Will anglers be more responsible just because they passed a test? Could be most do want to follow rules. Will it reduce the number of people buying licenses? Likely since anglers who buy a license when there is a large publicized run may balk when a test is involved. Others who want to fish a few days on vacation may also decide not to bother.  License fees now fund stocking and enhancement in the Province. fewer anglers could lead to much higher fees, which could mean fewer sales yet, a dangerous spiral.
I like the way you think Ralph. I definitely dont think somebody coming here for vacation or on a guided trip should need to take a test but for example new immigrants who speak next to no english should have to prove themself in some way at least. I think even a simple multiple choice exam is fair.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 28, 2022, 09:15:44 PM
Pretty good fishing tonight after rushing back from a filming trip in Merritt to hit last light. Two coho, one wild and one hatchery, both around 6lb.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 28, 2022, 10:44:07 PM
What precautions do you guys take to avoid break ins and your catalytic converters being stolen while fishing ?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canoeboy on September 28, 2022, 11:39:58 PM
We're you in lower mid or upper rod? I'll be heading g that way tomorrow but wasn't sure if the upper was worth my time yet.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: stsfisher on September 29, 2022, 08:34:56 AM
I have personally dealt with people who retain over 20 hatchery coho a year none of us are fishing for survival or sustenance we are fishing for sport and need to regard it as such if we want to fish for these magnificent fish in the future.
I am curious why you think my 20 plus coho a year is an issue? my retention of hatchery coho some years is this while other years it is not but not one goes to waste. I enjoy coho over every other species of salmon. I have a family of 4 who also enjoy having fish through out the year. and yes with proper care fish will keep all year. As fishers we should not be looked down upon for keeping whatever amount of fish we feel we can consume.
I will note in most years I will not harvest any trout, char, or other salmon species throughout the year and have no issue with my harvest come the fall. Not one of these fish harvested is meant to make any difference in the future other than giving anglers the opportunity to harvest fish while ensuring wild fish are given the opportunity to populate for the future.


Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 29, 2022, 12:21:38 PM
I am curious why you think my 20 plus coho a year is an issue? my retention of hatchery coho some years is this while other years it is not but not one goes to waste. I enjoy coho over every other species of salmon. I have a family of 4 who also enjoy having fish through out the year. and yes with proper care fish will keep all year. As fishers we should not be looked down upon for keeping whatever amount of fish we feel we can consume.
I will note in most years I will not harvest any trout, char, or other salmon species throughout the year and have no issue with my harvest come the fall. Not one of these fish harvested is meant to make any difference in the future other than giving anglers the opportunity to harvest fish while ensuring wild fish are given the opportunity to populate for the future.

Exactly. People need to have all the background information on the fishery before commenting. When these coho salmon (mostly hatchery fish) reach the hatchery, certain number of them are picked to use as broods. Once enough broods have been collected to reach the egg target, the remaining fish (pretty much all hatchery fish) are surplus. Usually there are 20k, 30k, even 40k of them. A fish processor, contracted by Soowahlie First Nation, then come to the hatchery to transport them to their plant, where the fish are sorted and graded. Some end up as pet food, some end up as fertilizer, some would even end up at your local supermarket. How many hatchery fish anglers retain, have absolutely no impact on the sustainability of this fishery (unless we have a abnormally low return and brood target is hard to achieve). The hatchery staff in fact would love to see you retaining all the hatchery fish that you are allowed, so there are less fish plugging up the channel for them to deal with. I much rather having people retaining and enjoying as many hatchery fish as they want, then focusing on retaining wild stocks, or buying fish from the grocery stores. This, in my opinion, is the most sustainable and healthy protein you can get.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on September 29, 2022, 03:01:30 PM
Exactly. People need to have all the background information on the fishery before commenting. When these coho salmon (mostly hatchery fish) reach the hatchery, certain number of them are picked to use as broods. Once enough broods have been collected to reach the egg target, the remaining fish (pretty much all hatchery fish) are surplus. Usually there are 20k, 30k, even 40k of them. A fish processor, contracted by Soowahlie First Nation, then come to the hatchery to transport them to their plant, where the fish are sorted and graded. Some end up as pet food, some end up as fertilizer, some would even end up at your local supermarket. How many hatchery fish anglers retain, have absolutely no impact on the sustainability of this fishery (unless we have a abnormally low return and brood target is hard to achieve). The hatchery staff in fact would love to see you retaining all the hatchery fish that you are allowed, so there are less fish plugging up the channel for them to deal with. I much rather having people retaining and enjoying as many hatchery fish as they want, then focusing on retaining wild stocks, or buying fish from the grocery stores. This, in my opinion, is the most sustainable and healthy protein you can get.
if there's truly so many why cant there be a lottery system where you can come and get a couple? assuming you have a lisence ofc, in fact the more I think wouldnt that reduce the amount of meatheads on the river. although it ruins the idea of catching them yourself
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canoeboy on September 29, 2022, 06:10:58 PM
Managed 2 hatchery coho today that got there heads donated to the pit tag program. Talking with the man was very interesting. I thought the bit of rain might have pushed more fish into the system but my long hike and fish today did not reveal the amount of fish I was expecting.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on September 29, 2022, 06:34:50 PM
but my long hike and fish today did not reveal the amount of fish I was expecting.

welcome to my world.

and if. just if. I get into a fish I swear to god it's like some zombie apocalypse homing beacon goes off and the dead fishers emerge from the forest edges.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 29, 2022, 06:49:29 PM
if there's truly so many why cant there be a lottery system where you can come and get a couple? assuming you have a lisence ofc, in fact the more I think wouldnt that reduce the amount of meatheads on the river. although it ruins the idea of catching them yourself

Because your licence provides you opportunities to fish, not to provide you fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 29, 2022, 06:50:10 PM
Managed 2 hatchery coho today that got there heads donated to the pit tag program. Talking with the man was very interesting. I thought the bit of rain might have pushed more fish into the system but my long hike and fish today did not reveal the amount of fish I was expecting.

Don't complain, my sweaty long hike this morning resulted in four lost coho and nothing else. ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canoeboy on September 29, 2022, 07:48:09 PM
Hey no complaints! I was mostly by myself, landed 2 lost 1 I just would have thought I'd have seen more with the water so clear. I'll try again tomorrow who knows what I'll stumble apon.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on September 29, 2022, 08:21:04 PM
When these coho salmon (mostly hatchery fish) reach the hatchery, certain number of them are picked to use as broods.

Too many hatchery fish inbreeding would produce more genetic defects and reduce genetic diversity in future generations.  The hatchery fish are produced from a small number of broodstock.

Is this not a contradiction.  Its ok to use hatchery fish as a brood stock but not ok to let hatchery fish spawn in the river..  Makes no sense.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 29, 2022, 09:19:19 PM
Is this not a contradiction.  Its ok to use hatchery fish as a brood stock but not ok to let hatchery fish spawn in the river..  Makes no sense.

No it doesn't, it actually strengthens the theory.

The hatchery isn't using hatchery adult coho salmon as broods by choice, it's because there is a lack of wild coho salmon available for broods. They take as many wild as possible for the program, and make up the rest by using hatchery adult coho salmon. Artificial selection like this decreases diversity, which is very evident among specimens of the hatchery stock. The most obvious characteristic is the size variation, which is very little.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on September 29, 2022, 11:50:48 PM
Retaining 20 hatchery coho? Fly at 'er

Retaining 20 sockeye? Ehhh, unimpressed.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on September 30, 2022, 09:22:06 AM
I am curious why you think my 20 plus coho a year is an issue?

I think chumslayer was making a personal value statement and nothing more. Once a member, who longer posts here commented that he had smoked some large amount of sockeye one season... it was well over 100lbs IIRC. It seemed excessive to me but it was perfectly legal. Only a few species in BC waters are subject to annual limits, coho are not one of them. how much one needs and what is excessive is a personal view. Twenty doesn't seem out  of line to me, at least for the Vedder.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: rymack on September 30, 2022, 11:47:39 AM
what my take on chum slayers comments were was how to reduce pressure on the Vedder. Making it two a day ..ie you get your 2 hatch a day and head home and leave the river ostensibly less crowded.

At any rate the pressure on the vedder will only grow as the population grows , access remains free and easy and there are harvest opportunities. It is what it is.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 30, 2022, 12:02:31 PM
what my take on chum slayers comments were was how to reduce pressure on the Vedder. Making it two a day ..ie you get your 2 hatch a day and head home and leave the river ostensibly less crowded.

At any rate the pressure on the vedder will only grow as the population grows , access remains free and easy and there are harvest opportunities. It is what it is.

The daily quota doesn't need to be reduced, because as mentioned in my last post too many fish end up at the hatchery already. What we need, and many of us at the SFAC agree, is to have the same reg for steelhead implemented for salmon. Once you catch your limit, you have to stop fishing. You can't stand there and catch and release more fish, or hand your rod to other people around you. This should free up some space for others.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 30, 2022, 12:06:10 PM
Actually, just to add to the last comment lol. I don't oppose to have the aggregated daily quota of salmon reduced to two btw. If people can only catch two and stop fishing afterward, then that'd give many other anglers more opportunities to fish. This would also mean more hatchery coho salmon would bypass, reach the hatchery and seemingly "wasted" though. Fishing space is the issue here, not the abundance of fish available for harvest. I've become more concious on making sure others get the same opportunities when I'm out (well, easier for me to say since I live close by and can go anytime), so have no problem stepping back when I see someone coming all the way from Vancouver to find places to fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: spoiler on September 30, 2022, 02:24:05 PM
doesn't First Nations get the excess hatchery fish?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: stsfisher on September 30, 2022, 02:50:51 PM
 
The chilliwack system has more than enough fish for everyone, the problem is no one wants to take the time to learn how to be successful on the river. Take the time and put in the effort and eventually you too will be harvesting fish on a regular basis. Limits do not need to be lowered to give others a better chance. Learn to fish and you will get them. I also feel the guys that do well consistently are the ones staying on the river after they get limits, in my experience they are more than happy to leave the river as soon as possible.
I say this with approx 30 years of fishing our local waters for salmon. To this day I still believe I am learning every day on the water in an effort to understand how to be even more successful.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 30, 2022, 04:29:54 PM
doesn't First Nations get the excess hatchery fish?

Exactly. People need to have all the background information on the fishery before commenting. When these coho salmon (mostly hatchery fish) reach the hatchery, certain number of them are picked to use as broods. Once enough broods have been collected to reach the egg target, the remaining fish (pretty much all hatchery fish) are surplus. Usually there are 20k, 30k, even 40k of them. A fish processor, contracted by Soowahlie First Nation, then come to the hatchery to transport them to their plant, where the fish are sorted and graded. Some end up as pet food, some end up as fertilizer, some would even end up at your local supermarket. How many hatchery fish anglers retain, have absolutely no impact on the sustainability of this fishery (unless we have a abnormally low return and brood target is hard to achieve). The hatchery staff in fact would love to see you retaining all the hatchery fish that you are allowed, so there are less fish plugging up the channel for them to deal with. I much rather having people retaining and enjoying as many hatchery fish as they want, then focusing on retaining wild stocks, or buying fish from the grocery stores. This, in my opinion, is the most sustainable and healthy protein you can get.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 01, 2022, 01:33:23 AM
Popped out for an hour before dark on the last day of September. I decided to switch from float fishing soft beads to casting spoons this time, after losing four in a row yesterday morning. The results were a little better, 2 landed out of 4 hook-ups, both wild coho salmon. Prime Lures' Glory Spoon (chartreuse, 2/5oz) was the ticket.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BMo86 on October 01, 2022, 02:13:43 AM
This quote is stolen directly from pacific anglers weekly update and I feel like it needs to be shared. Fish that are u molested and happy are much more eager to bite in my opinion." Systems such as the Chilliwack/Vedder, Harrison, Chehalis and Stave are all running very low, in some instances reaching the lowest levels ever recorded for this time of year.  Anglers will want to downsize presentations to suit the conditions; as mentioned in my previous report, now is not the time for your 25mm soft beads.  Unfortunately, low water inevitably encourages some folks to floss/snag fish, which makes things even tougher for those of us who fish ethically. Nothing spooks fish quicker than the repeated ripping of lines through a pool or the spastic, uncontrollable fight of a foul-hooked fish"
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 01, 2022, 06:35:27 AM
This quote is stolen directly from pacific anglers weekly update and I feel like it needs to be shared. Fish that are u molested and happy are much more eager to bite in my opinion." Systems such as the Chilliwack/Vedder, Harrison, Chehalis and Stave are all running very low, in some instances reaching the lowest levels ever recorded for this time of year.  Anglers will want to downsize presentations to suit the conditions; as mentioned in my previous report, now is not the time for your 25mm soft beads.  Unfortunately, low water inevitably encourages some folks to floss/snag fish, which makes things even tougher for those of us who fish ethically. Nothing spooks fish quicker than the repeated ripping of lines through a pool or the spastic, uncontrollable fight of a foul-hooked fish"

Does not matter. There is not stealth presentation in Vedder. any productive spot is non-stop bombed all day long by all kinds of rigs.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on October 01, 2022, 09:36:40 AM
Don't complain, my sweaty long hike this morning resulted in four lost coho and nothing else. ;D

I think I drove past you on the way to your spot Rod! You looked like you were tired from all that walking. Me, on the other hand, could use the exercise. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 01, 2022, 09:53:51 AM
I wasn’t tired, I just wanted to get it over with. Dave behind me on the other hand, was losing speed. 🤣
But he also had two 6lb coho on his back so I had to punish him by walking faster.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on October 02, 2022, 03:58:08 PM
I wasn’t tired, I just wanted to get it over with. Dave behind me on the other hand, was losing speed. 🤣
But he also had two 6lb coho on his back so I had to punish him by walking faster.

Lol yes I thought I saw DW beyond you! That’s the nice thing about not landing any hatch coho. No weight to carry back. 😂
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canoeboy on October 02, 2022, 06:48:01 PM
Oof shots fired :p
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Big Steel on October 02, 2022, 11:42:56 PM
Oof shots fired :p
It"s ok... Rodney had been whipped enough that day. He could have the walking win over a fat old man... Lol
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on October 03, 2022, 07:52:05 PM
seems like the groups have moved upstream; where abouts is this? prison run?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SteM7_WWcQ
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on October 04, 2022, 09:08:36 AM
heard they are stacked up like cordwood at the mouth, and it's a complete slaughter fest out by sumas fraser confluence.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 04, 2022, 11:49:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ewM0p3x.jpg)

A glorious morning with the Glory Spoon lol. Found another pod of finicky coho in a piece of undisturbed but skinny water, and managed to snatch a pair of hatchery fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: coastangler on October 04, 2022, 12:21:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ewM0p3x.jpg)

A glorious morning with the Glory Spoon lol. Found another pod of finicky coho in a piece of undisturbed but skinny water, and managed to snatch a pair of hatchery fish.

Very nice looking fish rod! Thanks for sharing. Do you think the lower water actually gives you an edge spin casting or even fly fishing? Usually I wait to hit the Vedder using Spin/Fly fishing (I consider the kind of waters you should look for very similar for both styles) until late season mostly because is less busy, but you gave me the motivation to try a bit earlier!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 04, 2022, 12:38:29 PM
Where I fished today, I'd say I would have done way better if I was float fishing with bait or bead, or fly fishing. It was just quite shallow and the only strike zone was this slot so the lure was only hitting the spot for a couple of seconds each time. Both fish hit the lure on the drop or on the first crank of the reel, the rest of the retrieve was just in shallow water which was kind of pointless.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 04, 2022, 01:30:42 PM
The Albion test net report shows a slow down trend. May due to the weather, or the expected increasing number of chinook return did not happen.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on October 05, 2022, 08:21:31 AM
Are folks going upper vedder much. In my mind it does not seem like a good play on account of the lack of rain. Anyone think it's worthwhile. I just love that part of the river.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on October 05, 2022, 05:46:46 PM
Are folks going upper vedder much. In my mind it does not seem like a good play on account of the lack of rain. Anyone think it's worthwhile. I just love that part of the river.  Thoughts?

Rod said there was fish at the hatchery already so theres definitely fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 05, 2022, 06:02:42 PM
Are folks going upper vedder much. In my mind it does not seem like a good play on account of the lack of rain. Anyone think it's worthwhile. I just love that part of the river.  Thoughts?
is you can find pools they are holding then sure, though seemingly more rare
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 05, 2022, 11:01:13 PM
There isn't just fish at the hatchery... There's a lot of fish at the hatchery lol...

The Albion test net report shows a slow down trend. May due to the weather, or the expected increasing number of chinook return did not happen.

You don't think we've had enough chinook salmon in the river lol...?

Two more coho tonight, but both never made it to shore. The same run produced fish for me about a week ago, but was unproductive in the past few days until today. Fish are on the move every night, that's giving us surprises everyday when we get out there.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 05, 2022, 11:15:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ewM0p3x.jpg)

A glorious morning with the Glory Spoon lol. Found another pod of finicky coho in a piece of undisturbed but skinny water, and managed to snatch a pair of hatchery fish.

A lot of time left for coho. Right now springs are kings.

(https://i.imgur.com/uTRl9DB.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 05, 2022, 11:18:55 PM
I honestly suck at catching springs. ;D I got one this season, and now I'm all distracted by coho so not paying any attention to the big ivory kings anymore...

I wouldn't mind get another one though, because a couple of weeks ago I made fish and chips with the one I caught and it was amazing!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ButtLoadOfDucks on October 06, 2022, 08:46:24 AM
Hey Rod,

New to fishing shallow runs here (I'm not a steelheader... yet). How do you know what's a fishy shallow run vs a barren one? Just looking for jumping fish? Reading water is much easier when there's features around (deeper pools, obvious seams, rapids etc) but lost when it comes to reading a shallow stretch of water.

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on October 06, 2022, 09:12:05 AM
Just wondering if the fishing boundary signs at the mouth of the Vedder are there for decoration or is there a purpose.  Couple of days in a row now I seen boats anchored well below the boundary signs.  Ignorant, stupid or entitled.  One boat had decals plastered all over it " Sturgeon Slayers"  If its too busy above the boundary signs I guess the entiltled people think its ok to fish below.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=780776456302122&set=a.649559122757190
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 06, 2022, 09:15:49 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=780776456302122&set=a.649559122757190
yikes, talk about horrible marketing ...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 06, 2022, 09:44:08 AM
Man, it’s a brave new world when professional guides brag about getting a fisheries violation ticket.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: vancook on October 06, 2022, 10:05:25 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=780776456302122&set=a.649559122757190

What a moron. There is unfortunately more and more people out there with this kind of mentality.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: sumasriver on October 06, 2022, 10:05:46 AM
Man, it’s a brave new world when professional guides brag about getting a fisheries violation ticket.

wow poaching is now something to brag about........  should have seized boat and gear

Guide should have just cruised up to the lower Canal and snagged and dragged the low water with everyone else....
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 06, 2022, 10:55:09 AM
Looks the guide group need a clean up. First is beating the shore angler, now guide people to fish salmon in Fraser when salmon fishing is closed there. What is the next?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BMo86 on October 06, 2022, 12:47:51 PM
The fines didn't appear to scare anyone 10-12 jets and a handful of car toppers all well in the confluences of the Fraser today throwing spoons
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 06, 2022, 01:04:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=780776456302122&set=a.649559122757190

Tells you alot about the quality of guides. Resorting to snagging because you are unable to catch them legally.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: 4x4 on October 06, 2022, 01:35:27 PM
Looks the guide group need a clean up. First is beating the shore angler, now guide people to fish salmon in Fraser when salmon fishing is closed there. What is the next?

Wow. Fishing out of boundary AND retaining more than the allowable quota.

Rod mentioned many weeks ago that he would provide an update (within a week) on the a-holes that beat up the fisher. Have I missed it?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BMo86 on October 06, 2022, 01:42:49 PM
Well that was fast DFO boat just came in and cleared them all out
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 06, 2022, 02:01:47 PM
Wow. Fishing out of boundary AND retaining more than the allowable quota.

Rod mentioned many weeks ago that he would provide an update (within a week) on the a-holes that beat up the fisher. Have I missed it?

I don't have an update unfortunately, been waiting for one. Last I checked with the victim, he wanted to see charges laid, and was supposed to be IDing the accused in the line-up, but I haven't heard anything since.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 06, 2022, 02:10:06 PM
Hey Rod,

New to fishing shallow runs here (I'm not a steelheader... yet). How do you know what's a fishy shallow run vs a barren one? Just looking for jumping fish? Reading water is much easier when there's features around (deeper pools, obvious seams, rapids etc) but lost when it comes to reading a shallow stretch of water.

Thanks!

The first thing I'm usually looking for are spots that have not been disturbed by anglers and chinook salmon. The second thing I'm looking for fish that are quietly finning or rolling every now and then.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ButtLoadOfDucks on October 06, 2022, 03:18:06 PM
Will go for a walk and take a look then, is finning vs jumping an important distinction?

Sucks to hear about that guide. Pretty disappointing to see.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 06, 2022, 03:22:34 PM
Will go for a walk and take a look then, is finning vs jumping an important distinction?

I'd like to think so. If I see fish darting around in the run and jumping all over the place, that may seem exciting but it's usually a waste of time for coho salmon fishing. The fish are either spooked, or on the move, the last thing they want to do is to settle down and look at whatever you are offering them. When I see a little dorsal fin or back quietly porpoising, that's when I get excited. The fish are sitting peacefully on in the run, and would actually take the time to see whatever you're putting in front of them.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 06, 2022, 03:51:35 PM
In addition to quietly porpoising, tail boils on the surface usually indicate bitey fish.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Lunk Louie on October 06, 2022, 05:37:10 PM
When I see a little dorsal fin or back quietly porpoising, that's when I get excited.


LOL ....a natural fisherman's reaction to a an exciting visual for sure....but I can tell you with these current conditions (extremely low, crystal clear water, bright daylight and mega-bombed terrified Ho's after running the gauntlet in the canal chokepoints), are posing challenges I've rarely ever seen on this flow to the point that seeing these guys finning and porpoising even in quiet water post gauntlet has usually meant more frustration than success....and that's regardless of tactics including deployment of my nuclear fly !!!  :o

Best everybody pack up and head up to Wilson road and Allison where the biters hang out :D

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on October 06, 2022, 08:49:38 PM
This horse has been beaten to death on this website, if you think its a problem report to DFO, include pictures

I guess you took your own pictures.. LOL
Thanks for proving my point about people that are entitles to do want they want. 
What a looser...


Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 06, 2022, 09:28:21 PM
I honestly suck at catching springs. ;D I got one this season, and now I'm all distracted by coho so not paying any attention to the big ivory kings anymore...

I wouldn't mind get another one though, because a couple of weeks ago I made fish and chips with the one I caught and it was amazing!

Fish and chips time!

(https://i.imgur.com/VpWe3aM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 06, 2022, 10:28:07 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=780776456302122&set=a.649559122757190

this guy should have run to be Premier of Alberta.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ButtLoadOfDucks on October 07, 2022, 09:22:41 AM
Hey thanks for the info Rod, Clarki, and Lunk. If anything I'll find some spots where they'll be likely to hang out when (hopefully not IF) the water comes up!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 07, 2022, 09:24:56 PM
Some big pushes of coho salmon in the lower river this week. These fish always amaze me. How did that many fish bypass a section of lower river where I have frequently fished and ended up in another section further up? ;D It literally happened overnight. Anyway, I caught the tail end of it before they all disappeared overnight, thinking that this morning was gonna be fantastic. A little leg work this afternoon found some more schools with no one around, so we managed to score a few bites.

Some photos.

(https://i.imgur.com/UubaRZQ.jpg)
Acrobatic chum salmon, a dog fight at the dog park.

(https://i.imgur.com/WAsz4OP.jpg)
Nina didn't get a chance to fish for all those silver chinook salmon earlier in the season, it was nice for her to get one this week even though it was already a bit coloured.

(https://i.imgur.com/1FBssG4.jpg)
Another hatchery coho salmon on the 2/5oz chartreuse Prime Lure Glory Spoon.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 08, 2022, 10:27:22 AM
looks to me like the chum may be  foul hooked at the back top of the gill plate?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on October 08, 2022, 10:29:01 AM
Upper river was quiet. Tiny bite in the morning and lip locked soonafter. A change in the weather would help disperse the fish more but that does not seem to be happening for a while still. Looks like lower end is still your best bet for fish.

(https://i.ibb.co/L5NL4hv/A6507046.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 08, 2022, 10:43:56 AM
That looks awfully crowded, plus no biters too, terrible lol.

Gotta go to where the fish are, and it's festive.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ip0iXH5.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 08, 2022, 10:52:06 AM
looks to me like the chum may be  foul hooked at the back top of the gill plate?

No, the bead often slides up while the fish is on.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 08, 2022, 11:32:44 AM
No, the bead often slides up while the fish is on.

ah!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chum Slayer on October 08, 2022, 06:06:02 PM
Just got back from Chilliwack fished near the new banter ice cream place, The river is too low for any reasonable amount of coho or springs to be in the river. Although some people are getting fish, very few of these fish are being hooked fairly today I saw many back hooked and tail hooked springs and coho retained. Everybody and their dog was flossing with beads or wool fishing 5 to 4 ft deep in 3/2 feet of water, even with all of the fish stacked up in these holes it wasn't even good flossing like it normally would be during the fall. Anyway, I went down to a tail out to fish and snagged one spring and lost two floats once I realized that I was snagging I went home. What really gets me annoyed is that nobody has the common sense to not fish during these conditions, even if they are hatchery fish they still deserve respect! I personally won't be fishing until we get a decent storm snagging fish isn't sporting.
This time last year it was much better numbers-wise, I would not be surprised if we get an extremely late run this year.

Chum slayer
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Clarki Hunter on October 08, 2022, 07:02:41 PM
Upper river was quiet. Tiny bite in the morning and lip locked soonafter. A change in the weather would help disperse the fish more but that does not seem to be happening for a while still. Looks like lower end is still your best bet for fish.


Beautiful picture Dennis!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 08, 2022, 10:19:31 PM
BEWARE! So usually I receive anywhere from 50 to 150 messages in my inboxes per day throughout October and quite often you are sending me issues that others may need to be aware of. Here are two items which I received tonight and they need to be shared.

An angler had a good day catching and retaining several hatchery coho salmon today and when he returned to the parking lot at Fishermen's corner, two individuals were beside his vehicle and they had punched a hole in his fuel tank and were siphoning gas out. He proceeded to confront them and they took off, nearly hitting him in the process. Plate number and vehicle description were reported to the RCMP. Be vigilant on your and others' vehicles so everyone can have a good day out there.

Secondly, I had a conversation with one of the officers tonight to go over any particular issues from this past week. Compliance unfortunately has not been good at the popular fishing spots along the Chilliwack/Vedder River. The officer recommended that anglers should think about stopping fishing once retaining your limit of four salmon, so others have a chance to fish too.

(https://i.imgur.com/xA7bLOK.jpg)

Please identify your catches before deciding whether they can be legally retained. An angler messaged me tonight reporting that he saw an individual incorrectly identified an adipose clipped Cultus Lake sockeye salmon as a hatchery coho salmon at the Vedder Crossing, proceeded to kill it, then abandoned the fish once being told that it was a sockeye salmon. Please assist your fellow anglers who may not be as educated on the species. If they appear to be unsure, reach out and you potentially may end up saving a fish that is not supposed to be retained.

FOUND!! An angler has found a centerpin setup at Fisherman's corner today. If you left your setup behind, please message me and tell me the description of the setup so I can put you in touch with him.

Also this evening... I was too busy today so my parents went down to the Vedder Crossing on their own because my dad had yet to catch a coho salmon this year. I don't recommend it but they insist. Being 85 and 75, it's a long haul for them to walk from Vedder River Park to the river bank on the other side. Anyway, they got down there, it was too busy so my dad couldn't get many casts in. Meanwhile, after getting my work done I went out on my own to poke around and see if I could find a quiet spot where fish were present. After a bit of walking around, I came across a beautiful run that I hadn't fished this season, and nobody was around. It looked a bit shallow, I scanned through it from top to bottom twice without seeing much. Just when I was about to leave, I spotted one fish finning. It was a tiny ripple but it was so obvious that a coho was down there. A few minutes later, I spotted a couple more. I phoned my parents to see where they were, and they were just leaving back to the car. We had perhaps an hour of daylight left, so I directed them to where I was. Meanwhile, I decided not to make a cast while watching more rollers. ;D They finally arrived, and I proceeded to have my dad standing at where he should, made one cast for him so he could see how far the drift should be, handed the rod over, and a couple seconds later the float was buried and fish on. ;D The fight was actually quite entertaining for the size of the fish, perhaps around 5lb. It came in the net, a wild coho it was. A quick pic and back it went. For the rest of the evening, he managed to miss a couple more bites and I lost a bigger coho. Great way to finish the day without having to fish in the crowd.

(https://i.imgur.com/b27kD54.jpg)

Good nigh and enjoy the rest of the long weekend.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 08, 2022, 11:03:49 PM
Hate to hear thieves vandalizing cars when the owners are out spending a nice day on the river fishing. Good to hear that the owner was able to get the plate number and a vehicle description.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: tworivers on October 09, 2022, 10:29:15 AM
Big smiles and a shared grip of the catch says it all Rodney. Thanks for the report.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 09, 2022, 04:00:03 PM
Props to your dad to be out fishing by himself at age 85!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ern on October 09, 2022, 05:27:26 PM
Great Dad photo Rod!
“Rod’s Dad fishing with rod with Rod on Fishing with Rod”
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ern on October 09, 2022, 05:30:30 PM
Beautiful picture Dennis!
yeah, very nice!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Blood_Orange on October 09, 2022, 09:37:11 PM
Hate to hear thieves vandalizing cars when the owners are out spending a nice day on the river fishing. Good to hear that the owner was able to get the plate number and a vehicle description.
Probably a stolen car, too ::)

Thanks for the updates, Rod!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 09, 2022, 11:04:23 PM
Props to your dad to be out fishing by himself at age 85!

Yeah it's a little crazy. We insist that he cannot go out on his own but he still does it once awhile. The good thing about the Vedder being so busy is that quite often I would get a message or two from people fishing near him, telling me that how he's doing.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 09, 2022, 11:16:34 PM
i think we've just been given a glimpse into the future of your and Elliot's relationship. :)

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 09, 2022, 11:38:07 PM
Well, my kids aren't really that interested in fishing, for now... so I might just be placed in a home. ;D

Today we went back to the same run, this time with the whole gang, Nina, parents, kids. Had the whole run to ourselves once again, and fish were rolling and finning. At one point I saw the brightest coho salmon surfacing, obviously new fish were coming through, but then they'd disappear after 30 minutes. During the 3 hours we were there, we caught NOTHING. Nina had two float downs, that was it. These fish are so awesome and awful haha... After two decades, I'm still trying to figure out the run timing during the day and what turns them on and off.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: stsfisher on October 10, 2022, 08:07:52 AM
After two decades, I'm still trying to figure out the run timing during the day and what turns them on and off.

Good luck with that  Rod, I swear they have the same DNA as most wives on any given day  8)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Aki on October 10, 2022, 05:41:04 PM
Springs and cohos are starting to move through more, even with the clear and low water….they can’t wait forever! Had a great morning on Saturday with many fish landed (and most released)….coho are more skittish but springs are pretty aggressive….row worked well early in the morning for both springs and coho and then light gear and small beads once the sun was bright…hopefully it keeps up!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on October 10, 2022, 06:08:43 PM
Springs and cohos are starting to move through more, even with the clear and low water….they can’t wait forever! Had a great morning on Saturday with many fish landed (and most released)….coho are more skittish but springs are pretty aggressive….row worked well early in the morning for both springs and coho and then light gear and small beads once the sun was bright…hopefully it keeps up!

Hard or soft beads? Was using 8mm hard bead today and nothing :(
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 10, 2022, 08:13:55 PM
Springs and cohos are starting to move through more, even with the clear and low water….they can’t wait forever! Had a great morning on Saturday with many fish landed (and most released)….coho are more skittish but springs are pretty aggressive….row worked well early in the morning for both springs and coho and then light gear and small beads once the sun was bright…hopefully it keeps up!
yep I heard lots of fish entered today and yesterday. Guess I shouldve went salmon fishing instead of trout fishing! Thought I would not go to avoid the crowds but ended up avoiding the fish XD
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Aki on October 10, 2022, 09:47:08 PM
Small hard beads on the bait loop on the hook… 8lb leader and #4 hook…3 to 5 mm beads…
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Aki on October 10, 2022, 09:51:25 PM
But other folks were using large soft beads from 12mm to over 20mm and getting hookups… mostly it’s finding the fish and providing something different for them to see…
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 10, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
Fished a run in mid river this evening from 4pm until last light, and as expected there were hundreds of coho sitting in 2 to 4ft of water in front of us. Most of them were bright silver, looked to have just moved in since the last couple of days. Biters were hard to come by as expected too. In the end only hooked and landed one on the Prime Lure 2/5oz chartreuse glory spoon.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 11, 2022, 09:38:41 AM
Yup, it was crazy yesterday, a lot of fish in the system.....lots of bite from spring and chum, but coho always manages to get off the hook.... Some colored springs.....few red springs too,

All those waiting for rain should just go now .....fish are definitely not waiting
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 11, 2022, 02:42:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5o7ayop.jpg)

Just when you think the parade is over, they just keep on coming. 😉 After being lazy throughout the Thanksgiving long weekend by only fishing in the evening, I decided to get on the river bank for those first light bites. The morning didn't disappoint. In fact, it was the best morning so far. The first twenty minutes saw multiple coho salmon burying the float, but only a couple made it into the net. This was followed by a brief break, before hundreds of chinook salmon invaded the run and pushed out all the coho salmon. From mid morning until lunch, the bobber downs were constant as chinook salmon ranging between 5lb and 10lb grabbed onto our BnR Tackle 10mm soft beads whenever we put one in front of them. The fall chinook salmon run in Chilliwack River usually tapers off by early October, but we continue to see strong pushes. This could be due to a combination of the low river level, increased hatchery production, closures in the sea and the large high tide caused by the full moon.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 11, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
Nice Spring Rod ! Quick question - how do you tell a difference between red and white spring when they are very chrome? like no red hue at all
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: vancook on October 11, 2022, 03:42:43 PM
Nice Spring Rod ! Quick question - how do you tell a difference between red and white spring when they are very chrome? like no red hue at all
you can't

the red hue is the fish turning into a tomato regardless of being a white or red spring
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Cyanescens on October 11, 2022, 03:53:26 PM
Nice Spring Rod ! Quick question - how do you tell a difference between red and white spring when they are very chrome? like no red hue at all

Check out this video from Petr, he shows red springs having a different head shape.
https://youtu.be/kBtOSeJnshw
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 11, 2022, 04:18:21 PM
you can't

the red hue is the fish turning into a tomato regardless of being a white or red spring

So what I have observed is white springs turn a bit green and red springs turn red........is that not true? white spring can turn red too?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SuperBobby on October 11, 2022, 04:23:48 PM
So what I have observed is white springs turn a bit green and red springs turn red........is that not true? white spring can turn red too?

Any spring that I've seen turn red is either red meat or marble meat....but anything is possible.
What is really cool is that some white springs turn this magnificent golden color. When the morning sun hits the fish when you have it at the shoreline, it really is a sight to see.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 11, 2022, 04:24:35 PM
Check out this video from Petr, he shows red springs having a different head shape.
https://youtu.be/kBtOSeJnshw

Thanks, the video shows mature fish, I have seen big thick fish that looks like white but turned out nice red meat instead
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 11, 2022, 04:27:07 PM
Any spring that I've seen turn red is either red meat or marble meat....but anything is possible.
What is really cool is that some white springs turn this magnificent golden color. When the morning sun hits the fish when you have it at the shoreline, it really is a sight to see.
For a sec I thought you were talking about some new weird salmon species with golden color lol ............... They do fight really good
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 11, 2022, 04:50:40 PM
Interesting video but I wish Peter tone down the sound of the water. Very difficult to listen to what he's saying.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 12, 2022, 04:05:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wlQmCjW.jpg)

I returned to the same spot this morning thinking we'd have a repeat of yesterday, but it was night and day. 🤣

Beside missing three solid float downs, nothing was happening, no fish were showing up, leave twenty or so anglers who all showed up for the same show disappointed lol. I ended up hooking this chinook salmon at around 11am.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bj23 on October 12, 2022, 09:41:32 PM
Interesting video but I wish Peter tone down the sound of the water. Very difficult to listen to what he's saying.

I find it easier to understand Petr when I adjust my hearing aid to the 'shower' mode.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: armytruck on October 13, 2022, 07:31:25 AM
I find it easier to understand Petr when I adjust my hearing aid to the 'shower' mode.
🤣
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 13, 2022, 03:00:17 PM
Made my first trip to the Vedder this morning. As Rod and others have noted, lots of fish. Sad to see none of the fishermen at the run I was at was marking their licence after landing their chinooks.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 13, 2022, 03:24:32 PM
Made my first trip to the Vedder this morning. As Rod and others have noted, lots of fish. Sad to see none of the fishermen at the run I was at was marking their licence after landing their chinooks.
this is something I noticed aswell
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fic on October 13, 2022, 07:37:11 PM
People fishing around me were marking chinooks. Some are misidentifying chums and bonking. When people told them, they released the fish that may not survive the hit.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 13, 2022, 09:48:22 PM
People fishing around me were marking chinooks. Some are misidentifying chums and bonking. When people told them, they released the fish that may not survive the hit.
they definitely know... if you don't know what a chum looks like you should not be salmon fishing.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 14, 2022, 03:12:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMke-frpiaY
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wildmanyeah on October 14, 2022, 01:21:34 PM
what a nice fish!

https://www.facebook.com/1216290566/videos/1085982545417440/
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 15, 2022, 02:11:28 PM
Fished the mid river yesterday with another board member (who shall remain nameless unless he choses to out himself.)  :)

This was my first time fishing the river since last fall and it was jaw-dropping to walk the river and marvel at the changes that had occurred since the flood event last November: forests missing, massive log jams, mountains of sediment and dry river channels.  Amazing...

We agreed this was going to be an exploratory trip and hopefully we'd find some suitable water...and a fish or two.

In the end, we found some suitable water (including some juicy bits that would be cracking after some rain) and some agreeable fish. I landed three chinook (one on a #2 spinner and two on jigs) and lost a coho on a jig, while my fishing partner lost two coho on spinners. It was also fun to watch the juvenile steelhead rising to a hatch of mayflies.

All in all, a very nice day on the river. By putting some miles on the boots you can get away from the crowds and have some good fishing too.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 15, 2022, 10:00:38 PM
Some fishing trips are memorable not because of the fishing.  Yesterday was one of those.  I truly enjoyed exploring the river with you clarkii.  It was fantastic!!!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 15, 2022, 10:04:28 PM
Some fishing trips are memorable not because of the fishing.  Yesterday was one of those.  I truly enjoyed exploring the river with you clarkii.  It was fantastic!!!
the nameless has been named!!  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 15, 2022, 10:09:02 PM
Here I thought it was Ralph.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 17, 2022, 01:45:35 AM
Some more silver chinook salmon, and some more silver coho salmon.

(https://i.imgur.com/f2M7TG2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LiECYMD.jpg)

I hope everyone's enjoying the peak of the run at the moment.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on October 17, 2022, 06:38:55 PM
the nameless has been named!!  ;D

Yes! And he even stopped by my place with his dog to say hello!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 18, 2022, 07:45:51 AM
Here I thought it was Ralph.

oh, surprised you even thought of me!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 19, 2022, 01:36:53 AM
Just a few bobber downs at first light last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYEwFPok5-o
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: wav789 on October 19, 2022, 07:37:03 AM
Great video - nothing like first light! I definitely haven't had any of those types of mornings this year...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: CohoJake on October 21, 2022, 11:22:49 AM
Will she blow out this weekend? I'm always nervous about the first good rain. We need it so badly, but hopefully we get some good fishing this weekend. The Vedder has held up in this drought better than most systems, but climate change is still becoming heartbreaking.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on October 21, 2022, 11:35:24 AM
Will she blow out this weekend? I'm always nervous about the first good rain. We need it so badly, but hopefully we get some good fishing this weekend. The Vedder has held up in this drought better than most systems, but climate change is still becoming heartbreaking.
Will not affect the river at all. 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fic on October 21, 2022, 12:38:20 PM
If there's a way not to hook any chums at the Vedder and still catch other salmon, it would be so helpful  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Wiseguy on October 21, 2022, 02:01:00 PM
Will she blow out this weekend? I'm always nervous about the first good rain. We need it so badly, but hopefully we get some good fishing this weekend. The Vedder has held up in this drought better than most systems, but climate change is still becoming heartbreaking.
This little bit of rain we are having today won’t make abit of difference. The ground and trees are so dry they will sponge up this rain we are having and be begging for more.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chum Slayer on October 21, 2022, 02:06:06 PM
there is more on the way, this amount will push fish into the system. Can't wait to c and r some chum and coho on the fly.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Wiseguy on October 21, 2022, 02:35:07 PM
there is more on the way, this amount will push fish into the system. Can't wait to c and r some chum and coho on the fly.
Hey Chum Slayer. Chum is closed. Do not target chum.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dubs604 on October 21, 2022, 02:43:19 PM
Hey Chum Slayer. Chum is closed. Do not target chum.

Chum are non-retention until further notice.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 21, 2022, 04:05:51 PM
It will be now.

https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=267417&ID=all
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 21, 2022, 04:49:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DmYFCnc.jpg)

Not a bad morning.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Wiseguy on October 21, 2022, 07:48:04 PM
Chum is open now eh? That’s bad news with these extreme low water conditions. The slaughter will continue unfortunately and now Chum is added to the mix. Sad news indeed.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on October 21, 2022, 08:20:17 PM
Chum is open now eh? That’s bad news with these extreme low water conditions. The slaughter will continue unfortunately and now Chum is added to the mix. Sad news indeed.
Totally agree, the chums should have been left for eagle food; there's more than enough coho and chinooks for this fishery.  <900,000, my God but we're setting the bar lower every few years!  Lower mainland and coastal rivers should have total chum returns in the millions.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BNF861 on October 22, 2022, 07:36:15 AM
Definitely agree Dave. I'm sure the occasional chum gets eaten and if fresh enough is fine but I can't help but think the majority that are retained are not of eating quality and anglers after the roe for bait and then toss the fish or give away to someone that doesn't know any better between the salmon species. As you said, plenty of other chinook/coho opportunities.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 22, 2022, 11:08:39 AM
Now since artificial beads work great, hope that the demand for roe should be low.... Right? Or do people harvest roe for any other reasons?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 22, 2022, 11:43:55 AM
Now since artificial beads work great, hope that the demand for roe should be low.... Right? Or do people harvest roe for any other reasons?
Many still do, they use it for barfishing, trout fishing ect. Many eat it either baked or made into caviar ect.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: avid angler on October 22, 2022, 12:33:28 PM
Nothing wrong with using roe as bait as long as the whole fish is used. Especially if the eggs are harvested from a hatchery fishery. Beads also wouldn’t be as effective if every single guy out there was using them.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 22, 2022, 01:38:17 PM
Add my name to the list of those not wanting chum to be open to retention.

This summer for sockeye, and this fall for coho and chinook, anyone who wants to catch a salmon for the table has had ample opportunity.

We don’t need to catch and eat every salmon in the the river.

With the compounding effects of climate change, habitat loss and ocean conditions, it’s Ok to let as many chum as possible fertilize the rivers and forests and feed the eagles, bears, cutthroat and a multitude of other species in the food web.

As a compromise maybe only open the Stave and C/V to retention.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: coastangler on October 22, 2022, 02:14:27 PM
Agreed clarki, also I'm not sure why they don't apply the same rule that the Chehalis has (no retention after Dec 1st, although this should be no fishing) to all other rivers to at least protect the last spawners from stress. What's the point on allowing these fish being hammered until the very end?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: iblly on October 23, 2022, 07:42:40 AM
Gillnet boats in new west harbour right now. Fishing chum I would assume.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 23, 2022, 08:54:44 AM
hey I remember what fishing the Stave was like when there was no fishing for chum anywhere in non tidal water!  ;D

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chum Slayer on October 23, 2022, 04:48:27 PM
I was out today, after hiking a little bit I found a nice spot with coho,chum and steelhead smolts. After watching the fish swim around for a little bit, I casted my gibbs croc out, after a few hours 11 am to 2:30 pm I had one bite from a coho, one from a chum and had a buck chum follow my spoon. Anyway, I left empty-handed with no fish. however, I did pay a visit to the canal gong show and counted 120 cars in total, with nobody bringing any fish back to their cars except one young guy who brought back a chum with a white belly. Also, on a side note, I think chum should be open to catch and release fishing this year and for the next 8 or until they get back to the run numbers of the 1990's.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fic on October 24, 2022, 10:00:33 AM
Anyone know why you can retain 2 chums at the Stave River but 1 on the Vedder?  Why not 1 chum on both rivers? 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 24, 2022, 01:35:20 PM
the Harrison and Nicomen also have a limit of 2 chum.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: roeman on October 24, 2022, 03:06:20 PM
Two different people writing the regulations.  The Chehalis has no retention until Nov 1...
Maybe there are three people writing the regs...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 24, 2022, 09:18:40 PM
Fly caught coho, deserves a photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/JnKnSFm.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 24, 2022, 09:34:16 PM
Fly caught coho, deserves a photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/JnKnSFm.jpg)

Too small for that nice rod
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on October 24, 2022, 11:38:36 PM
Nice one Jack! Is that your Sage XP?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 25, 2022, 08:10:02 AM
Nice one Jack! Is that your Sage XP?
Thanks.
That's my 810 X. Dirty chums are everywhere and a few clean springs. I didn't want to go too light, even thou I usually break them off. The two rods do look very similar don't they?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: coastangler on October 25, 2022, 09:18:00 AM
Fly caught coho, deserves a photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/JnKnSFm.jpg)

Thanks for sharing, and nice fish. That's an inspiration for the many times I tried fly fishing for Coho at the Vedder and went home empty handed wondering if I made a mistake for not bringing a different setup  ::)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Lunk Louie on October 25, 2022, 12:11:53 PM
Fly caught coho, deserves a photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/JnKnSFm.jpg)


YOU SHOWED THE SECRET FLY !!!!! 

there goes the neighborhood  ;D

Nice fish....
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: VictorBai on October 25, 2022, 12:25:49 PM
The water level has increased by 60 mm due to the rain yesterday.

Would this be considered a "blowout" for the Vedder system?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 25, 2022, 01:04:42 PM
Leaving the river now. Hooked three coho on size 2, unweighted, colorados. Landed two wild. Rolled another on a grub jig. Water has murked up a bit and has nice colour.

A flyfisher below me was killing it.

The water level has increased by 60 mm due to the rain yesterday.
Would this be considered a "blowout" for the Vedder system?
Not at all. It will take a lot more sustained rainfall for that to happen.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 25, 2022, 03:07:31 PM
The water level has increased by 60 mm due to the rain yesterday.

Would this be considered a "blowout" for the Vedder system?
I think current conditions are near perfect aside from the fact that its not enjoyable fishing in heavy rain..
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 25, 2022, 07:07:18 PM
Leaving the river now. Hooked three coho on size 2, unweighted, colorados. Landed two wild. Rolled another on a grub jig. Water has murked up a bit and has nice colour.

A flyfisher below me was killing it.
Not at all. It will take a lot more sustained rainfall for that to happen.

was that BS?  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Lunk Louie on October 25, 2022, 07:19:09 PM
Leaving the river now. Hooked three coho on size 2, unweighted, colorados. Landed two wild. Rolled another on a grub jig. Water has murked up a bit and has nice colour.

A flyfisher below me was killing it.
Not at all. It will take a lot more sustained rainfall for that to happen.


Could that have been me ????....where was it ???  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 25, 2022, 07:20:24 PM
was that BS?  ;D
No, today BS was BW (Big Weenie) and did not come.

Besides, we all know that if it was him he would have posted pics already 😀
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 25, 2022, 09:18:01 PM
Could that have been me ????....where was it ???  ;D
Yes, it absolutely was you. Were you wearing waders and casting a flyrod? Sure looked like you...I think.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 25, 2022, 09:25:15 PM
Now I know where to go tomorrow morning...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 25, 2022, 09:28:08 PM
Now I know where to go tomorrow morning...

Don't trust everything you read on the internet. ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 25, 2022, 10:16:16 PM
Slow day somehow. 3 coho and a few chum the whole morning. It is just a little rain, but the fish has all moved somewhere. Thought the rain would improve fishing, but looks on the contrary.

(https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/313187797_10159185741791270_6475203836354183352_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=WDE8eWEHasUAX8n23LO&_nc_oc=AQk5hX0nywzBjME2ww3otBjY-p8S288ltDcUV8KFK-nj1LsT5-isH6hakQ5F6LMyJ6OrxVBis5HWaCBvggaxQpax&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT9IWyyEcKawRbhrD5WjdXN1hfrRZFduBJ1WXYgwHMSK9Q&oe=635DFAF0)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 26, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
Slow day somehow. 3 coho and a few chum the whole morning. It is just a little rain, but the fish has all moved somewhere. Thought the rain would improve fishing, but looks on the contrary.

(https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/313187797_10159185741791270_6475203836354183352_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=WDE8eWEHasUAX8n23LO&_nc_oc=AQk5hX0nywzBjME2ww3otBjY-p8S288ltDcUV8KFK-nj1LsT5-isH6hakQ5F6LMyJ6OrxVBis5HWaCBvggaxQpax&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT9IWyyEcKawRbhrD5WjdXN1hfrRZFduBJ1WXYgwHMSK9Q&oe=635DFAF0)

Haha....yes i can see having 3 coho is definitely not worth going out for fishing...4 is the minimum
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 26, 2022, 02:32:57 PM
Haha....yes i can see having 3 coho is definitely not worth going out for fishing...4 is the minimum

It is about the action and also the sight of fish. seems much quiet than before. Thought will limited out in one hour after rain, but the bite came through a long way.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on October 26, 2022, 03:14:59 PM
It is about the action and also the sight of fish. seems much quiet than before. Thought will limited out in one hour after rain, but the bite came through a long way.

I see, I thought you were being sarcastic, cause landing 3 coho for me is epic........nice fish btw.......I never had more than 2 in a day, although I lose a lot of fish either not hooking them right or they are just that good at escaping :P
Does colored coho taste any different?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on October 26, 2022, 06:45:33 PM
Slow day somehow. 3 coho and a few chum the whole morning. It is just a little rain, but the fish has all moved somewhere. Thought the rain would improve fishing, but looks on the contrary.



interesting setup psd; what rod /reel is that. Were you using spoons....thanks
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on October 26, 2022, 06:48:59 PM
interesting setup psd; what rod /reel is that. Were you using spoons....thanks

one fish on spoon, rest on jig. Shimano Curado DC and a 7' casting rod
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: VAGAbond on October 26, 2022, 07:37:48 PM
A blue jig!  Hardly anybody in my experience uses blue as opposed to pink etc but I once had a guide say cohos like blue and put on blue wool.  It really worked.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 26, 2022, 07:38:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/iufm26Y.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 26, 2022, 07:51:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/iufm26Y.jpg)

That’s a hog!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: obie1fish on October 26, 2022, 08:47:24 PM
Glad you were able to find that beauty after our efforts yesterday.  It was good to fish and chat with you!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 27, 2022, 12:44:07 AM
Glad you were able to find that beauty after our efforts yesterday.  It was good to fish and chat with you!

Yesterday was a day to be forgotten, beside the good conversations. ;D It's amazing how different each day of coho fishing can be, that's why we love it so mcuh!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 27, 2022, 05:10:26 AM
Great catch, Steve.
What a beauty, Rod.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: matrix111 on October 27, 2022, 12:48:36 PM
Has the water level increased by a lot today? Planning on going to canal tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 27, 2022, 12:55:29 PM
Has the water level increased by a lot today? Planning on going to canal tomorrow.
its showing about a cm an hour since around 6
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Lunk Louie on October 27, 2022, 04:27:07 PM
Now I know where to go tomorrow morning...



shhhhhhhhhhhhh......you promised....besides can only fit 11 vehicles there on a slow day and who hikes 20 min these days.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bravo252 on October 28, 2022, 08:16:10 AM
Blown?? Season over??
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 28, 2022, 08:38:07 AM
Blown?? Season over??
15 cm from 4 o clock yesterday. I've seen worse but its hard to tell from just the graph
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 28, 2022, 08:38:23 AM
15 cm from 4 o clock yesterday. I've seen worse but its hard to tell from just the graph
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 28, 2022, 12:07:37 PM
Blown?? Season over??
About 24” of vis. Nice bump of water. Very fishable.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bravo252 on October 28, 2022, 01:22:52 PM
Thanks, guys!!! ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on October 30, 2022, 11:57:05 PM
50 cm bump as of now...
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: vancook on October 31, 2022, 08:50:33 AM
50 cm bump as of now...
You'll still find people out there "fishing"
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Kever on November 02, 2022, 11:45:39 AM
Bite was off yesterday, unlike last weekend when it was on big-time.  Saw a few chum moving up and a couple coho finning but no coho bites for me.  Mostly fished mid river, tried upper too for a bit. 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on November 02, 2022, 11:52:49 AM
Bite was off yesterday, unlike last weekend when it was on big-time.  Saw a few chum moving up and a couple coho finning but no coho bites for me.  Mostly fished mid river, tried upper too for a bit.
River looks like it should be in good condition from the graph. Though I saw on the news today that there is a 0.1 hectare fire at tahimi creek this morning as around 8:10
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on November 02, 2022, 12:00:43 PM
River looks like it should be in good condition from the graph. Though I saw on the news today that there is a 0.1 hectare fire at tahimi creek this morning as around 8:10
Doesnt look like it will last long tho, rain forecasts are STRONG for thursday night and friday morning. Strong winds and rain.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Kever on November 02, 2022, 01:08:29 PM
River looks like it should be in good condition from the graph. Though I saw on the news today that there is a 0.1 hectare fire at tahimi creek this morning as around 8:10
Yeah it was one of those weird days where the coho didn't want to cooperate. For those who want to target chum they are still aggressively hitting short floated jigs.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 02, 2022, 10:07:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sdWRTM0.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on November 02, 2022, 10:21:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sdWRTM0.jpg)
hey I know that bridge Rodney  ;)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 04, 2022, 09:51:26 PM
Today the rain just kept falling...
(http://i.imgur.com/z7bv3xR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/z7bv3xR)

the river kept rising...
(https://i.imgur.com/OspOHBj.jpg)

and the cohos kept on biting
(https://i.imgur.com/jUKL8vW.jpg)

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on November 05, 2022, 10:08:47 AM
Today the rain just kept falling...

the river kept rising...

and the cohos kept on biting

Nice Jack! Great to see my "new" favorite fly in that coho's mouth! What reel is that there?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 05, 2022, 05:47:51 PM
Today the rain just kept falling...
(http://i.imgur.com/z7bv3xR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/z7bv3xR)

the river kept rising...
(https://i.imgur.com/OspOHBj.jpg)

and the cohos kept on biting
(https://i.imgur.com/jUKL8vW.jpg)

just one short!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 06, 2022, 07:01:42 AM
Nice Jack! Great to see my "new" favorite fly in that coho's mouth! What reel is that there?
Daiwa 708
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Lunk Louie on November 06, 2022, 02:13:13 PM

Daiwa in the sand....how about chrome chump on the Daiwa ?.....ouch...

brings back a lot of good memories from the pioneer days  ;)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 10, 2022, 04:30:07 PM
Some were saying that the Vedder coho season is over, so we went out to do some fact checking this week.

(https://i.imgur.com/zsojzhM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on November 10, 2022, 05:21:50 PM
Some were saying that the Vedder coho season is over, so we went out to do some fact checking this week.

(https://i.imgur.com/zsojzhM.jpg)
that's awesome! wish i was catching coho at that young of an age! Definitely brings my confidence up for tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bj23 on November 11, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Even the fish has dimples!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on November 11, 2022, 03:36:37 PM
Not canal chromers but they're still biting (https://scontent.fyka2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315347580_10167117761370012_4414801972109286295_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=-jQl7arMEcgAX-cTIul&_nc_ht=scontent.fyka2-1.fna&oh=00_AfBJXXEEBlTwtdlG_DJvIVULlF38q9BFBQwQe8u-pkbEeA&oe=6374A2D2)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on November 11, 2022, 04:14:31 PM
Not canal chromers but they're still biting (https://scontent.fyka2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315347580_10167117761370012_4414801972109286295_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=-jQl7arMEcgAX-cTIul&_nc_ht=scontent.fyka2-1.fna&oh=00_AfBJXXEEBlTwtdlG_DJvIVULlF38q9BFBQwQe8u-pkbEeA&oe=6374A2D2)

roe?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on November 11, 2022, 05:40:29 PM
Yep. Greedy little coho love fat chunks of bait, and I love roe bites.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: canucksfan233 on November 11, 2022, 07:58:38 PM
Yep. Greedy little coho love fat chunks of bait, and I love roe bites.

tough to use when its so cold. my hands are freezing after 30 mins
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chardeemacdenis on November 12, 2022, 06:42:56 PM
This is why I do it. Got the boy into 3, landed 2. Released 2 myself. (https://scontent.fyvr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315304874_10167121695225012_101241147494382639_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Vjkdkwa9McsAX9g2XpM&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCQLcir08NBHu_9sfZEa0DHv-1a5Dup7Qe2bTCkfrdepA&oe=6375A80A)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on November 12, 2022, 06:59:07 PM
Thats a happy face !  love to watch kids getting excited while fishing....thats something special.....cant wait for my 3 yr old to start fishing with me next summer
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 14, 2022, 03:17:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d39vT1aqgoU
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: stsfisher on November 14, 2022, 08:43:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d39vT1aqgoU
Awesome. Those boys obviously have been mentored by great fishers. Love the fish handling skills. That portion of the video could and should be used as an example for all who fish the Fraser valley for salmon and steelhead.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: psd1179 on November 14, 2022, 11:34:35 AM
Awesome. Those boys obviously have been mentored by great fishers. Love the fish handling skills. That portion of the video could and should be used as an example for all who fish the Fraser valley for salmon and steelhead.

That is the best time for experience angler. nobody around, fresh fish to hand
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on November 14, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
Awesome. Those boys obviously have been mentored by great fishers. Love the fish handling skills. That portion of the video could and should be used as an example for all who fish the Fraser valley for salmon and steelhead.
I was very impressed as well!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 14, 2022, 09:20:22 PM
Awesome. Those boys obviously have been mentored by great fishers. Love the fish handling skills. That portion of the video could and should be used as an example for all who fish the Fraser valley for salmon and steelhead.

X2, well said.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 14, 2022, 09:23:39 PM
Late chrome
(http://i.imgur.com/5XkFYHb.jpg) (https://imgur.com/5XkFYHb)

Late, not so chrome
(http://i.imgur.com/2Vu1hpe.jpg) (https://imgur.com/2Vu1hpe)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 14, 2022, 10:27:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d39vT1aqgoU

Great video Rod, nicely done. Wicked hookset @ 5:04 and 6:28
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 15, 2022, 09:54:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d39vT1aqgoU

very enjoyable video Rod. Thank you
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on November 15, 2022, 09:47:06 PM
Awesome. Those boys obviously have been mentored by great fishers. Love the fish handling skills. That portion of the video could and should be used as an example for all who fish the Fraser valley for salmon and steelhead.

Agreed. Those lads have fishing skills beyond their years. Kudos to the dads/mentors.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 16, 2022, 08:44:03 AM
I the think these young gentlemen deserve most of the credit for their knowledge and  behavior.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 17, 2022, 02:26:10 AM
Hey now... I thought the camera person is the one who makes the subjects look best.

Kael and Laken are pretty awesome. This season I have noticed a surge of young anglers in that age group out at the river on their own. There needs to be some kind of youth fishing club in Chilliwack.

Anyway, we've passed mid November, and they are still coming.

(https://i.imgur.com/bNroLuW.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SuperBobby on November 17, 2022, 09:15:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d39vT1aqgoU

Just curious. Do you have a full time 9-5 job or do you get paid to fish for a living? If I fished as much as you, I'd be broke.
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 17, 2022, 10:28:54 AM
I don’t have a 9 to 5.

I just have a sugar mama, highly recommended. 🤪
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 17, 2022, 10:40:31 AM
Does your Sugar Mama have a sister ? :)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: vancook on November 17, 2022, 11:08:35 AM
Just curious. Do you have a full time 9-5 job or do you get paid to fish for a living? If I fished as much as you, I'd be broke.

Rodney lives the dream
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 17, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
Does your Sugar Mama have a sister ? :)

🤣
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Clipped.Adipose on November 17, 2022, 11:56:09 AM
I can also highly recommend a sugar mama
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 17, 2022, 11:57:51 AM
I can also highly recommend a sugar mama

No wonder we are always out there at the same time..... 🤣
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SuperBobby on November 17, 2022, 12:12:59 PM
I don’t have a 9 to 5.

I just have a sugar mama, highly recommended. 🤪

Is that actually true?
Your wife works full time and allows you to fish at will?
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Phronesis on November 17, 2022, 12:19:51 PM
Is that actually true?
Your wife works full time and allows you to fish at will?

Isnt that a dream come true lol
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 17, 2022, 12:35:42 PM
Such utopia does exist out there, and it's called Chilliwack. 🤣
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: stsfisher on November 18, 2022, 08:46:29 AM
Such utopia does exist out there, and it's called Chilliwack. 🤣
As long as the wife doesn't find out about the sugar momma.........
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dennisK on November 19, 2022, 07:30:06 PM
Went above the vedder xing (1st parking lot) and wandered around. Saw a few so-so chum hooked. And the weather was cold by the way. It's been a while since rocks stuck to my felt. And oh, ice forms on braided line and guides with enthusiasm. I need a hack for that.

The sun came up and after a cpl of hours decided to go up river. I heard things were cooking further up so drove about 16km to the former prison area. Things were different up there. It reminded me of Game of Thrones and the Westeros' northern border; called the Wall. God damn it was cold. By the time I got to the fishing spots I remembered why I moved from Ontario a few decades ago. There could have been plentiful coho sacrificing themselves on fishermen's hooks but I'll never know.  When your guides freeze up before actually casting. It's a sign. Obey. So I did.

I remembered Rod's last video and the kids having success. And I maybe wrong to the actual location... but I drove really fast (to get away from the ice walkers) and parked at the heron reserve. After walking about 15 mins I found some nice log piles and a beach (like in the video). The sun was actually warming. I really did not care if I caught anything since the sun felt like Hawaii. Hey it was 4 degrees and believe me it made the experience worthwhile. I put on some roe and no luck but I saw fish porpoising. I switched over to a silver spinner (bluefox) and after a few casts a fish was on the hook. A super clean chum. This was surprising because I'm not that much of a gearhead but since my split rings showed up I've been enthusiastic to using them.  The few other fishermen who were around did ok. Most had their limit of chum but the coho were somewhere else.

Overall a memorable day.

Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Darko on November 19, 2022, 07:52:00 PM
Went above the vedder xing (1st parking lot) and wandered around. Saw a few so-so chum hooked. And the weather was cold by the way. It's been a while since rocks stuck to my felt. And oh, ice forms on braided line and guides with enthusiasm. I need a hack for that.

The sun came up and after a cpl of hours decided to go up river. I heard things were cooking further up so drove about 16km to the former prison area. Things were different up there. It reminded me of Game of Thrones and the Westeros' northern border; called the Wall. God damn it was cold. By the time I got to the fishing spots I remembered why I moved from Ontario a few decades ago. There could have been plentiful coho sacrificing themselves on fishermen's hooks but I'll never know.  When your guides freeze up before actually casting. It's a sign. Obey. So I did.

I remembered Rod's last video and the kids having success. And I maybe wrong to the actual location... but I drove really fast (to get away from the ice walkers) and parked at the heron reserve. After walking about 15 mins I found some nice log piles and a beach (like in the video). The sun was actually warming. I really did not care if I caught anything since the sun felt like Hawaii. Hey it was 4 degrees and believe me it made the experience worthwhile. I put on some roe and no luck but I saw fish porpoising. I switched over to a silver spinner (bluefox) and after a few casts a fish was on the hook. A super clean chum. This was surprising because I'm not that much of a gearhead but since my split rings showed up I've been enthusiastic to using them.  The few other fishermen who were around did ok. Most had their limit of chum but the coho were somewhere else.

Overall a memorable day.
good to hear you had some fun and that there was some action too. Not bad for November 19!
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 19, 2022, 07:57:17 PM
As long as the wife doesn't find out about the sugar momma.........

Right, totally forgot.... Phew. ;D

Went above the vedder xing (1st parking lot) and wandered around. Saw a few so-so chum hooked. And the weather was cold by the way. It's been a while since rocks stuck to my felt. And oh, ice forms on braided line and guides with enthusiasm. I need a hack for that.

The sun came up and after a cpl of hours decided to go up river. I heard things were cooking further up so drove about 16km to the former prison area. Things were different up there. It reminded me of Game of Thrones and the Westeros' northern border; called the Wall. God damn it was cold. By the time I got to the fishing spots I remembered why I moved from Ontario a few decades ago. There could have been plentiful coho sacrificing themselves on fishermen's hooks but I'll never know.  When your guides freeze up before actually casting. It's a sign. Obey. So I did.

I remembered Rod's last video and the kids having success. And I maybe wrong to the actual location... but I drove really fast (to get away from the ice walkers) and parked at the heron reserve. After walking about 15 mins I found some nice log piles and a beach (like in the video). The sun was actually warming. I really did not care if I caught anything since the sun felt like Hawaii. Hey it was 4 degrees and believe me it made the experience worthwhile. I put on some roe and no luck but I saw fish porpoising. I switched over to a silver spinner (bluefox) and after a few casts a fish was on the hook. A super clean chum. This was surprising because I'm not that much of a gearhead but since my split rings showed up I've been enthusiastic to using them.  The few other fishermen who were around did ok. Most had their limit of chum but the coho were somewhere else.

Overall a memorable day.

Good abundance of chum salmon has been showing up in the lower river this past week with those big incoming tides, with some coho salmon mixed in between of course. Majority of the newly arrived chum salmon are always bright silver during this time of the year.

(https://i.imgur.com/pfn36mt.jpg)

Today the rods were put away (and probably for the rest of the year now), and I brought the kids to the upper watershed to look at some spawning channels. The three friends of my son's had never seen spawning salmon before, so it was pretty exciting for them. We saw plenty of coho salmon which was expected, and a much higher abundance of chum salmon in the channels compared to past seasons.

(https://i.imgur.com/C7jBsAL.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 19, 2022, 08:37:36 PM
Wow, that is a chrome chum
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Kever on November 21, 2022, 10:41:18 AM
Took a couple chrome-ish hatchery coho home yesterday but I think I'm done for the season on the C/V, there are a lot of dark lip-locked fish around.  Who knows though, maybe tonight's rain will stir things up. 
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 22, 2022, 08:29:43 PM
Monday
(https://i.imgur.com/DIygQoY.jpg)

Tuesday
(https://i.imgur.com/efMVIdG.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 26, 2022, 04:27:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNcDorVVkM
Title: Re: 2022 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 28, 2022, 04:08:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKz2_Ja0NJY