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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: IronNoggin on August 14, 2019, 11:14:10 AM
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Damning report says Trudeau violated ethics act during SNC-Lavalin affair
Ethics commissioner Mario Dion says Trudeau inappropriately tried to influence Jody Wilson-Raybould
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by trying to influence then-justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to overrule a decision to not grant a deferred prosecution agreement to Quebec-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin, Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion has found.
"The evidence showed there were many ways in which Mr. Trudeau, either directly or through the actions of those under his direction, sought to influence the Attorney General," Dion wrote, in his report released Wednesday.
"The Prime Minister, directly and through his senior officials, used various means to exert influence over Ms. Wilson‑Raybould. The authority of the Prime Minister and his office was used to circumvent, undermine and ultimately attempt to discredit the decision of the Director of Public Prosecutions as well as the authority of Ms. Wilson‑Raybould as the Crown's chief law officer," Dion said.
Dion found Trudeau contravened Section 9 of the Conflict of Interest Act through a series of "flagrant attempts to influence" Wilson‑Raybould to reach an agreement with SNC-Lavalin to avoid criminal prosecution. That section of the code prohibits any official responsible for high level decision-making in government from seeking to influence the decision of another person to "improperly further another person's private interests."
Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion found Prime Minister Justin Trudeau contravened Section 9 of the Conflict of Interest Act through a series of "flagrant attempts to influence" Wilson‑Raybould to reach an agreement with SNC-Lavalin to avoid criminal prosecution. (Cole Burston/The Canadian Press)
While Dion found Trudeau contravened the act, the conflict of interest and ethics commissioner does not have the power to impose sanctions for such a violation.
The commissioner can impose financial penalties on public officer-holders for failing to meet certain reporting requirements — like declaring a gift — but those penalties do not apply in this case, a spokesperson for Dion said in a statement to CBC News.
In an interview with Dion as part of the investigation, Trudeau denied he tried to improperly influence Wilson-Raybould but rather he felt that the former justice minister did not adequately consider the possibility of negotiating a deferred prosecution agreement with SNC-Lavalin — something he considered to be in the public interest, and that she should be reminded of alternatives to criminal prosecution for alleged corporate wrongdoing.
In a submission to Dion made by Trudeau's lawyer, the prime minister told Dion that, even before the SNC-Lavalin affair became public through a media report, he had concerns about Wilson-Raybould's competence as justice minister, and he was troubled by "significant friction" between the B.C. minister and her other cabinet colleagues.
"Mr. Trudeau's legal counsel further submitted that Ms. Wilson-Raybould failed in her duty, as Attorney General, to acquaint herself with all the relevant facts. Rather than making a meaningful independent decision of her own, Ms. Wilson-Raybould reflexively deferred to the Director of Public Prosecutions' decision," Dion said.
Trudeau said he was concerned that a criminal prosecution could have wide-ranging consequences for SNC-Lavalin employees, shareholders, customers and suppliers, and could threaten the continued viability of the major firm.
As part of his investigation, Dion found that former Supreme Court justice Frank Iacobucci, who was acting as SNC-Lavalin's lawyer at the time, prepared a report to be delivered to Wilson-Raybould that outlined the "legitimacy for her to intervene in criminal matters" after the federal Liberal government introduced amendments to the Criminal Code allowing for DPAs or remediation agreements in February 2018.
Dion found Trudeau contravened Section 9 of the Conflict of Interest Act. That section prohibits any official responsible for high level decision-making in government from seeking to influence the decision of another person to 'improperly further another person's private interests.' (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
Another retired Supreme Court justice, John Major, prepared a complementary report on whether the refusal to pursue a DPA with SNC-Lavalin was "unlawful." Both reports were delivered to the Prime Minister's Office.
Wilson-Raybould told Dion she never reviewed the reports. Trudeau said he, too, had not seen the content of the reports but their legal opinions informed his belief that it was legitimate for Wilson-Raybould to direct prosecutors to consider alternative legal options.
'Troubling tactics'
The ethics commissioner said his review of the SNC-Lavalin affair turned up other "troubling tactics" and behaviour by some of the country's most senior public office-holders — including an inappropriate consideration of partisan political interests when discussing whether to proceed with a criminal trial.
Dion said discussions between Trudeau, former privy council clerk Michael Wernick, his senior staff and Wilson-Raybould about a political fallout in Quebec if the federal government did not reach a DPA with the company was "improper."
During a Sept. 17, 2018, meeting about the legal matter, Trudeau reminded Wilson-Raybould that he was "an MP in Quebec — the member for Papineau," a statement Dion interpreted as an attempt by the prime minister to remind his minister about the "larger political repercussions in Quebec, both for the federal and provincial orders of government."
He said further talk of the 2019 federal election was evidence that Wilson-Raybould felt considerable pressure from the prime minister to reach a conclusion favourable to the "governing party," the Liberal Party of Canada.
Dion said the prime minister and his staff viewed the SNC-Lavalin matter "chiefly through a political lens" that needed to be managed to protect partisan considerations rather than as a legal issue best left to the Public Prosecution Service of Canada, the independent body that prosecutes federal offences.
"The repeated interventions by the Prime Minister, his most senior ministerial staff and public officials to have the Attorney General find a solution, even in the face of her refusal to intervene in the matter, lead me to conclude that these actions were tantamount to political direction," Dion said.
While the prime minister had only one face-to-face interaction with Wilson-Raybould where the SNC-Lavalin matter was discussed, the ethics commissioner said he would not investigate other players in the PMO or Finance Minister Bill Morneau's office who sought to influence the former minister because they "acted in accordance with the general direction set by Mr. Trudeau in September 2018 and did not receive instruction to cease communications, even once related legal proceedings had commenced."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-snc-ethics-commissioner-violated-code-1.5246551
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Jody Reacts: https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/read-jody-wilson-rayboulds-full-statement-on-the-ethics-ruling-on-the-snc-lavalin-affair
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Political posts that aren't fishing-related don't belong in the "Fishing-related Issues & News" section of the fishing forum. Surely there's a Facebook group where your post would be more appropriate.
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Political posts that aren't fishing-related don't belong in the "Fishing-related Issues & News" section of the fishing forum. Surely there's a Facebook group where your post would be more appropriate.
Surely you do not believe that who sits in the PM Office doesn't effect (directly that is) what occurs in our fisheries?
The moves this year by the Feds were at the direction of the PMO all the way..
Trudeau vs. Dion: How the PM and ethics commissioner differ on the SNC-Lavalin affair:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/dion-trudeau-ethics-commissioner-report-1.5247418
Nog
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From the CBC? Oh My!!!
A Prime Minister's Office drunk on its own arrogance
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/ethics-report-1.5247595
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SNC-Lavalin cut to junk by S&P on heightened credit-risk profile
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/snc-lavalin-cut-to-junk-by-s-p-on-heightened-credit-risk-profile-1.1303806
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Political posts that aren't fishing-related don't belong in the "Fishing-related Issues & News" section of the fishing forum. Surely there's a Facebook group where your post would be more appropriate.
I guess there must be a good reason that the “Don’t like it? Don’t read it!” rule doesn’t apply here? I have no interest in the subject so I don’t read it unless I think something may have come up to draw my interest. Since there have only been 6 other topics started this month I don’t think Rods bandwidth limit is much of a problem.
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Checking the Forum title Fishing-related Issues & News, it seems definitely off topic, to me. It is also the domain of one person.
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When you can't attack the subject matter attack the poster. One again pounding the table instead of pounding the facts
typical ralph
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great poster you must have hated on that for hours.
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When you can't attack the subject matter attack the poster. One again pounding the table instead of pounding the facts
typical ralph
LOL! Pot attacks kettle. The facts do support what I wrote.
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Trudeau deflects blame for blocking RCMP probe of office
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-deflects-blame-for-blocking-rcmp-probe-of-office
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGmosFbMJ08&t=4s
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Time for Andrew Sneer to come clean with Canadians. What a bunch of hypocrits. They criticize about Stephane Dion and the former Governor General having dual citizenships. Now it turns out that Sneer also have dual citizenship.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiZ31H9q_CU
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Time for Andrew Sneer to come clean with Canadians. What a bunch of hypocrits. They criticize about Stephane Dion and the former Governor General having dual citizenships. Now it turns out that Sneer also have dual citizenship.
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And your point is...........
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never mind.
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And your point is...........
I think the point of that graphic is that, if you hold dual citizenship and you're non-white, your loyalty to Canada will forever be in question. It's a sad example of how dog whistle politics has become more overt in our politics in recent years.
This article sums it up well: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2019/10/04/scheers-dual-citizenship-answer-inadvertentlygets-to-the-nub-of-who-gets-to-be-unquestionably-canadian.html
From the article:
"When asked on Thursday why he didn’t come forward with this before, Scheer inadvertently hit the nail on the head. “I was never asked about it,” he said. [...] In that quote lies the nub of a profound problem of identity: who gets to be unquestionably Canadian? Scheer was not asked because nobody thought to question his Canadianness as a white man.
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May is white. She was born in the U.S. and only came to Canada as a teenager in 1972. Nobody questions her belonging to Canada. [...] Their rival NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, born in Scarborough, Ont., is Canadian born, Canadian bred. [...] On Wednesday, as Singh was strolling through a Montreal market to meet voters, a man came up to him, leaned in — an instantly recognizable gesture to many Canadians of colour — and said, “You know what? You should cut your turban off. You’ll look like a Canadian.”
On Thursday, the [Bloc Quebecois] party posted on Twitter Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet’s statement during the previous night’s French-language debate, urging voters to choose men and women “qui vous ressemblent”: “who are like you” or “who look like you.”
It is this blatant."
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dual citizenship is a non-issue. The Conservatives criticism of Ignatius, Michaelle Jean and Dion was pure political expediency and nothing illustrates that than Scheers suddenly revealing he is a dual Canada/US citizen. His main reason for renouncing likely has more to do with the tax complications & expense. How many other Conservatives are also dual citizens.
...and yes, I think the graphic IN cross posted is racist in intent.
... noticed something that needs to be pointed out; Sven Spengemann is listed as born in Berlin Germany supposedly holding dual German/Canadian Citizenship. That's not possible as Germany does not allow it's citizen's to be dual citizens. If Spengemann ever was a German citizen, in Germany he would be deemed to have renounced it as soon as he gained Canadian Citizenship.
How many other stupid errors are on this list?
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POLL: Only 25% think Trudeau should get a second term
It’s not good news for Justin Trudeau and the Liberals as they head into the English language leaders debate on Monday night: Just 25% of the country believes he deserves to be re-elected.
Across the country, the time of the change sentiment is at 50% or above in every province with Alberta being the highest at 74% and Ontario and Atlantic Canada sitting at 50%.
https://torontosun.com/news/national/election-2019/poll-only-25-think-trudeau-should-get-a-second-term
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BREAKING: Judge rules against Trudeau-appointed commission, allows journalists access to debates
... a judge has ordered the Trudeau appointed Leaders’ Debate Commission to accredit Conservative reporters which were previously barred.
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-judge-rules-against-trudeau-appointed-commission-allows-journalists-access-to-debates/
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Trudeau is rumored to be in talks with an accusor to suppress an explosive sex scandal
Ottawa’s longest-tenured political observers had been expecting a career-ending expose in Sunday’s edition of The Globe and Mail —but that story never came. Sources are now telling The Chronicle that Trudeau is in private talks with the principal source of that piece to suppress explosive sex allegations that, if made public, would likely force Trudeau to resign his office.
Trudeau’s accuser is said to be a former student at West Point Grey Academy and the daughter of a wealthy Canadian businessman. Sources tell The Chronicle that she is being represented by counsel and is being offered monetary compensation in exchange for a pending, but not yet signed, non-disclosure agreement.
https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/10/07/trudeau-is-rumored-to-be-in-talks-with-an-accusor-to-suppress-an-explosive-sex-scandal-that-may-force-him-from-office/
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Something tells me IN doesn't like Trudeau lol!!
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Something tells me IN doesn't like Trudeau lol!!
Ya think?
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New poll looking at virtues of Canada's party leaders ranks Justin Trudeau most elitist, fake
(https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/most-fake-2.png?w=640&h=500)
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/new-poll-looking-at-virtues-of-canadas-party-leaders-ranks-justin-trudeau-most-elitist-fake
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The only fake is the links he continually posts here. Speaking of Russian interference in the Canadian election.
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The only fake is the links he continually posts here. Speaking of Russian interference in the Canadian election.
(https://www.tnof.ca/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/ROFLMAO.gif)
(https://i.imgflip.com/17tggb.jpg)
Poor little leftie... :P
Nog
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Resorting to name calling now eh Nog ? Sad when you have to dig up some fake news to pass as real news.
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Not really sure what the point of these posts are because as an undecided voter who likes to be educated, I don’t really get swayed by the negativity and choose to vote for the other parties. If anything, it distances myself from the party that is making these accusations. I’d rather be reading about each party’s platforms and make a rational decision on who to vote for instead of voting out of anger.
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Liberals plummet, Conservatives surge in new poll
Federal Election Polling (Post-Debate):
CPC: 35% (+4)
LPC: 28% (-6)
NDP: 13% (+1)
GPC: 12% (-)
BQ: 7% (+1)
PPC: 3% (-1)
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/liberals-plummet-conservatives-surge-in-new-poll/
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https://www.undercurrentnews.com/2019/10/07/canadian-conservative-partys-fisheries-plan-more-gentle-on-net-pen-aquaculture/
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https://www.undercurrentnews.com/2019/10/11/pro-ras-groups-survey-shows-bc-all-in-for-net-pen-phase-out/
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Liberals plummet, Conservatives surge in new poll
Federal Election Polling (Post-Debate):
CPC: 35% (+4)
LPC: 28% (-6)
NDP: 13% (+1)
GPC: 12% (-)
BQ: 7% (+1)
PPC: 3% (-1)
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/liberals-plummet-conservatives-surge-in-new-poll/
The fact that 12% of Canadians would vote the green party is beyond terrifying. Have those 12% finished grade 3 math? Canada would be bankrupt to the point of 3rd world poverty in less than 3 weeks. Check out her platform. The math simply doesn't work.....actually....I don't think there is even any math there.....I don't get this....
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https://www.facebook.com/PierrePoilievreMP/videos/2372498126332313/
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https://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/op-ed/island-voices-federal-liberals-sacrificing-salmon-farm-jobs-to-win-over-urban-voters-1.23975037
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https://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/op-ed/island-voices-federal-liberals-sacrificing-salmon-farm-jobs-to-win-over-urban-voters-1.23975037
The Liberals’ platform ignores all those inconvenient truths, apparently based on the hope this transition will just somehow happen, with no thought given to the devastation it would wreak.
Of course. It is in the West after all. Trudeau and his team would sell their own grandmother to win this thing if she resided anywhere west of Quebec. They simply care not for anyone, nor anything (beyond the cash cow influx) beyond there.
Nog
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A MUST Watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpY9vJuLmxU&fbclid=IwAR1rYOqng5-FjmLEVkL4Gqu1cX4Us-oOCetTQpgMvHWsg8mtYA3tvkO6xzc
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You just gotta love the spin Pierre's Idiot Child is tossing out there now!
Trudeau acknowledges Tories could win, accuses them of running 'dirtiest' campaign ever
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-liberal-accuses-conservatives-dirty-campaign-1.5322439
From the Dirt Master himself! LOL
Nog