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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: IronNoggin on October 16, 2012, 11:00:54 AM

Title: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: IronNoggin on October 16, 2012, 11:00:54 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/salmon-stamp-revenue-belongs-back-in-bc/article4612496/

I couldn't agree more!  ;)
Well past time the feds stopped considering these funds some kind of Cash Cow, and put it back into the resource that drives their generation! Where it bloody well belongs!!

Cheers,
Nog
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: searun17 on October 16, 2012, 12:12:20 PM
Bloody two faced crooks,long overdue
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 16, 2012, 12:44:47 PM
The feds need the revenue to pay for their lavish pensions. :-[
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: rickjames_2 on October 16, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
I like both of the ideas, clawing back the money that belongs in B.C. and an increase in the stamp cost. Both moves make complete sense, and would provide much needed funds.
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: adriaticum on October 16, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
See that's why I always vote conservative. Less government, less crooks.  ;D :D
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: rickjames_2 on October 16, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
See that's why I always vote conservative. Less government, less crooks.  ;D :D

Yeah, I hate big government. I mean who really needs universal healthcare or a social safety net??  :P

Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: milo on October 16, 2012, 02:21:38 PM
Yeah, I hate big government. I mean who really needs universal healthcare or a social safety net??  :P

Obviously not Adriaticum - he must be in the 1%. ;D
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: adriaticum on October 17, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Yeah, I hate big government. I mean who really needs universal healthcare or a social safety net??  :P


Government doesn't provide the social safety net. It's your friends and family that do.
Government just leaves them alone so they can have enough money to take care of you, if , heaven forbid, you need it.
It's a common misconception.

See if you have big government then 5 dollars of your 6 for the conservation stamp has to go to pay for their expenses and pensions and 1 dollar goes to the salmon.
No wonder out salmon stocks are declining.  ;)
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: rickjames_2 on October 17, 2012, 09:54:40 PM
Government doesn't provide the social safety net. It's your friends and family that do.
Government just leaves them alone so they can have enough money to take care of you, if , heaven forbid, you need it.
It's a common misconception.

See if you have big government then 5 dollars of your 6 for the conservation stamp has to go to pay for their expenses and pensions and 1 dollar goes to the salmon.
No wonder out salmon stocks are declining.  ;)

The family unit broke down after World War 2, 46,998 young Canadians that would never come back to their family's. A generational gap made it very difficult for family's to provide a social safety net. Hence we had the Green papers which led to the creation of most of our social welfare system. The family unit is not always capable of providing that system, just look at how well that worked in the 'American experiment to the south' as good old John A. Would put it. Mine is able to provide it, I am lucky that way, but many are not as lucky.

5 of 6 dollars from your salmon stamp going where no one needs it is not called 'big government,' it is called government waste and inefficiency. Big government, while it can be when it is done wrong, is not always wasteful and inefficient. Examples abound in both categories.

just keep in mind that without 'big government' we would not have conservation officers, fishery regulations or the salmon stamp we are speaking of to begin with.

Regardless I believe we can agree that the money from the stamp should be returned to B.C. to enhance the fish habitat and our fishery in general.

I hate how 'big government' is the new in vogue dirty word. It has joined the ranks of other misused terms like 'Liberal'(used interchangeably with lefty, pinko, socialist, or communist) or 'Christian(which the left likes to throw in the mud a bunch).
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: Brian the fisherman on October 17, 2012, 11:47:51 PM
The family unit broke down after World War 2, 46,998 young Canadians that would never come back to their family's. A generational gap made it very difficult for family's to provide a social safety net. Hence we had the Green papers which led to the creation of most of our social welfare system. The family unit is not always capable of providing that system, just look at how well that worked in the 'American experiment to the south' as good old John A. Would put it. Mine is able to provide it, I am lucky that way, but many are not as lucky.

5 of 6 dollars from your salmon stamp going where no one needs it is not called 'big government,' it is called government waste and inefficiency. Big government, while it can be when it is done wrong, is not always wasteful and inefficient. Examples abound in both categories.

just keep in mind that without 'big government' we would not have conservation officers, fishery regulations or the salmon stamp we are speaking of to begin with.

Regardless I believe we can agree that the money from the stamp should be returned to B.C. to enhance the fish habitat and our fishery in general.

I hate how 'big government' is the new in vogue dirty word. It has joined the ranks of other misused terms like 'Liberal'(used interchangeably with lefty, pinko, socialist, or communist) or 'Christian(which the left likes to throw in the mud a bunch).
Well put  :)
Title: Re: Salmon Stamp Revenues BELONG back in BC!
Post by: adriaticum on October 18, 2012, 03:59:48 PM
Rick,
I come from a place where 20x more people have died in the Second World War, from a country half the size of Canada.
From a place where 50% of male population died in the First World War.
A place where 60% of the population still lives in a rural setting.
"Able bodied" men are not the only people in the country.
Your core idea that government is going to provide you with some sort of a social safety net is wrong and will cost your kids.
But I do agree with you on the rest.