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Title: Burnaby central park
Post by: frozensalmon on May 14, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
I was golfing in the burnaby central park where there is a very small lake
I saw lots of little golden/orange color fish they are like 200 in a pack
also saw some big fish 3~4 lb like, wondering if those are carps??
i pretty sure the lake is not for fishing but are those fish wild? or people just put in for the park purpose...

Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: leapin' tyee on May 14, 2012, 06:55:32 PM
Seen some big carp in there too.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: fic on May 14, 2012, 07:15:30 PM
There is a no fishing and no feeding sign near the shore close to the parking lot.  They look like carp to me, and I have also seen tiny orange colored carp about 1 inch in length (must be their  offspring). There's also turtles too, that are may be 6 inches long. 
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Sandman on May 14, 2012, 07:32:47 PM
There is a no fishing and no feeding sign near the shore close to the parking lot.  They look like carp to me, and I have also seen tiny orange colored carp about 1 inch in length (must be their  offspring). There's also turtles too, that are may be 6 inches long. 

That is interesting, because flyfishing was listed as one of the passive outdoor activities on the Central Park Management plan in 2009.

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CGoQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsavecentralpark.ca%2Fimages%2FCentral%2520Park%2520Management%2520Plan-73Pages.pdf&ei=nbWxT76mDaeXiQLEg8HdAw&usg=AFQjCNFxH5aTPcN7fGHUcH6sJQQ7kY8WEg&sig2=giZrt63azy_xRalGi58EHw (http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CGoQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsavecentralpark.ca%2Fimages%2FCentral%2520Park%2520Management%2520Plan-73Pages.pdf&ei=nbWxT76mDaeXiQLEg8HdAw&usg=AFQjCNFxH5aTPcN7fGHUcH6sJQQ7kY8WEg&sig2=giZrt63azy_xRalGi58EHw)
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: 300zxfairlady on May 14, 2012, 08:03:48 PM
my house is right infront of central park and i grew up catching fish in central park as i was a kid.
the little orange fishes you see are rosey minnows native to north america, they are sold at petsmart as live bait.
there are carp, koi, brown bullhead, crayfish, stickleback and had a very nice population of cutthroats in the creek that connected both ponds, however all the cutthroats had dissapeared many years ago.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: fic on May 14, 2012, 09:04:19 PM
That is interesting, because flyfishing was listed as one of the passive outdoor activities on the Central Park Management plan in 2009.

It looks like in the Upper Pond you can practice fly fishing. The lower pond by the golf course is where I have seen the no fishing sign.

This is the tiny orange fish I was referring to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mIUHaoTrBk
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: samw on May 14, 2012, 10:54:18 PM

This is the tiny orange fish I was referring to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mIUHaoTrBk

rosy red minnows, also known as fathead minnows.   Petsmart sells them for 14 cents a piece.  Good pond fish.

http://www.extension.org/pages/58768/fathead-minnows


*EDIT*  Oops, yeah, what 300zxfairlady said.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: BCfisherman97 on May 14, 2012, 10:58:17 PM
Well, I saw the fly fishing sign when I first started out about 3 years ago. Went ahead and got my rod, hooked into a bunch of carp, and ended up running from the park officers  :P Guess I was being stupid
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: fic on May 15, 2012, 09:22:42 AM
Well, I saw the fly fishing sign when I first started out about 3 years ago. Went ahead and got my rod, hooked into a bunch of carp, and ended up running from the park officers  :P Guess I was being stupid
That is funny.  I'm guessing you were fly fishing in the upper pond. I can't imagine them giving your grief if you're just doing catch and release.   In the lower pond, there is a very busy trail all around the pond, so you'd be hooking just as many by-standers as carp.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: cutthroat22 on May 15, 2012, 09:24:17 AM
Well, I saw the fly fishing sign when I first started out about 3 years ago. Went ahead and got my rod, hooked into a bunch of carp, and ended up running from the park officers  :P Guess I was being stupid

 ;D
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: TheChumWhisperer on May 15, 2012, 10:10:45 AM
Central Park Fishing Report... :D
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: leaping steely on May 15, 2012, 08:02:03 PM
Speaking of Central Park...

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Nasty+snakehead+fish+allegedly+spotted+Burnaby+Central+Park+lagoon/6626327/story.html
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: frozensalmon on May 15, 2012, 08:58:10 PM
....
might just be one of the fish I saw!!  like I said there are some big fishes in there!
btw it says it can kill a small dog ?! what the ? o.o
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Iyekim76 on May 16, 2012, 12:50:28 AM
I'm hoping this snakehead is caught and killed right away! These fish are one of the most dangerous invasive species to be illegally introduced in the United States that one state even put a bounty on dead snakeheads to try and fight against it. Hoping the investigation starts ASAP as our fishery will change forever. I don't understand why any of these fish are even sold alive?
Do google or YouTube "Snakehead/Fishing" and you'll understand the extent of what some ignorant person did by introducing it to a pond. This can really escalate to something unimaginable...;(
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Iyekim76 on May 16, 2012, 01:23:09 AM
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/16/11040803-maryland-a-dead-snakehead-is-a-good-snakehead?lite

http://swimatyourownrisk.com/2008/02/20/snakeheads-invading-the-uk/
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Sam6140 on May 16, 2012, 09:20:46 AM
I was going to post that article too. lol   Well, yeah looks like someone dumped it in there from an aquarium.  Or someone is hoping that they these fish will basically multiply so they can grow, be caught, and eaten fresh. 

What I'm thinking is that wouldn't these fish die anyway once winter hits?  At least that helps, somewhat.  I'm pretty sure they require warmer water to survive.  And that pond ices over every winter.

Well guys, looks like we need a volunteer to try and fish it out.  lol   Who cares if you're not allowed to fish there.  You're doing the pond a favor by catching it.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: noxcape on May 16, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
Back in January I called fishers rapp line because I saw an ad on Craigslist about someone giving away two snakeheads or they would we dumped somewhere i got no response or answer and now this come
Up makes you really wonder
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: frozensalmon on May 16, 2012, 12:51:39 PM
wonder how they taste 
might just catch them and ...

anyway I guess it's ok to kill these fish . well if i ever see one
according to wikipedia ,

Snakeheads can become invasive species and cause ecological damage because they are top-level predators, meaning they have no natural enemies outside of their native environment. Not only can they breathe atmospheric air, but they can also survive on land for up to four days, provided they are wet, and are known to migrate up to 1/4 mile on wet land to other bodies of water by wriggling with their body and fins. National Geographic has referred to snakeheads as "Fishzilla"[2][3][4] and the National Geographic Channel reports that the "northern snakehead reaches sexual maturity by age 2 or 3. Each spawning-age female can release up to 15,000 eggs at once. Snakeheads can mate as often as five times a year. This means in just two years, a single female can release up to 150,000 eggs."
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: frozensalmon on May 16, 2012, 01:09:16 PM
another news report
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120516/bc_snakehead_120516/20120516/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

apparently we should kill any snakefish once spot
they are threat to any freshwater fish including salmon!!  especially in fraser river we dont want to see big numbers of snakehead
unfortuanlly i think the population of these fish will increase in the next decade or so    they are in NA for some time

Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Geff_t on May 16, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
Back in January I called fishers rapp line because I saw an ad on Craigslist about someone giving away two snakeheads or they would we dumped somewhere i got no response or answer and now this come
Up makes you really wonder

 They say you can buy them live at T&T Market in Richmond. Why they would allow that I have no idea.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: leaping steely on May 16, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
They say you can buy them live at T&T Market in Richmond. Why they would allow that I have no idea.

I haven't been to T&T for the longest time, but years ago they used to have tanks full of them.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: leapin' tyee on May 16, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
They say you can buy them live at T&T Market in Richmond. Why they would allow that I have no idea.

Because they are not banned in Canada..
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Fillibert on May 16, 2012, 07:30:23 PM
Someone should organize an outing where we can all stand shoulder to shoulder around the pond (take some pressure off the cap) and try to get that sucker out.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Rodney on May 16, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
If everyone on the forum shows up, something like this could be accomplished quite easily...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tc6ywqoL6o
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: rocky on May 17, 2012, 12:16:18 AM
bit of a trite reply from you rodney. i posted months back about snakeheads and the dangers of them getting into our system ... and inviting your input;
no response. so what is your position on this rodney?
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Iyekim76 on May 17, 2012, 01:32:14 AM
If the fisheries, environment ministry as well as the city of burnaby approves of us fishing these suckers out, I'm more than willing to put the time in attempting to catch them. I'm sure a better method of electroshock or just poisoning the two ponds is a better idea especially if it's spawning season for these creatures. It's been stated that depending on the snakehead species, it can spawn from 2 to 4 times in a year. At 15,000 eggs per spawn, that's a pretty serious problem.

Do keep us posted if you hear from the regional officials, Rod. I'm sure a few from this forum will be more than willing to help out in anyway towards an attempt to eradicate this invasive species. Better now than be sorry later...
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Iyekim76 on May 17, 2012, 02:39:56 AM
National Geographic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmU7etSYYqI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Virginia Government
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_1HmUY5EOo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: leapin' tyee on May 17, 2012, 07:47:39 AM
Officials corral Burnaby lagoon in search for vicious snakehead fish

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/news/Officials+corral+Burnaby+lagoon+search+vicious+snakehead+fish/6633441/story.html#ixzz1v8eLOzD1
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Officials+corral+Burnaby+lagoon+search+vicious+snakehead+fish/6633441/story.html
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Sam6140 on May 17, 2012, 10:10:24 AM
Back in January I called fishers rapp line because I saw an ad on Craigslist about someone giving away two snakeheads or they would we dumped somewhere i got no response or answer and now this come
Up makes you really wonder

Do you remember where the seller was located?? If it was Burnaby or Vancouver, then it could quite possibly be the same person.   I hope no one has dumped them in say....Deer Lake.  since it's pretty close to Central Park.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: cutthroat22 on May 17, 2012, 10:26:35 AM
FWIW an angler told me one was caught in Deer Lake last summer.

I don't think snakeheads are going to take over or start eating people cats and puppies
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: silver ghost on May 17, 2012, 12:35:23 PM
That's good to hear the ministry is going to set traps and gillnet the entire lake, better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: frozensalmon on May 17, 2012, 07:38:50 PM
hey rodney maybe you can put up a sticky note to let people know how to identify those snakeheads so more people know  kill on sight!
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: urbanflyfisher on May 18, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
Wow i just heard about this from another fisherman and thought id check the forums... holy crap :o hope they catch it...whats a gate gonna do?  those things walk on land...
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: chronicfisher on May 18, 2012, 07:24:20 PM
hopefully if there are any snakeheads in that pond it will die off when the cold wheather hits.i had owned a few of these fishes in the past but they died becuase they jumped out of the fish tank.the one in the pics on the province look like the Emperor snakehead....these guys are nasty trust me.i used to throw a bunch of feeder in my tank to see what would happen.....the thing ate till it was twice its normal size!they have a very big appetite.all i know is that they dont do well in cold water i was surprised to find out that its in central park i always thought our waters would be too cold for them.
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: Burbot on May 19, 2012, 03:14:27 AM
Where is the Ministry when it comes to the Bass Bucket brigade?
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: noxcape on May 19, 2012, 11:07:05 AM
Wow why does everything always come back to bass like really
Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: RG on May 19, 2012, 01:06:49 PM
Maybe it's because largemouth bass are number 54 on the top 100 list of the World's Worst Invasive Alien Species according to the Global Invasive Species Database.

Title: Re: Burnaby central park
Post by: silver ghost on May 19, 2012, 04:15:53 PM
Wow why does everything always come back to bass like really

hahahahaha