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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: blaydRnr on October 08, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
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Went fishing today and it was ridiculously busy through out the system, but that isn't what i'm posting about...While driving around I noticed a few fisherman changing their tires...at first i thought it was just bad coincidence, but on my way out i decided to check out the gong show at KWB... while there i came across 3 fishermen repairing their tires which were either slashed or deflated and another unoccupied car which had all four tires flattened... what's this world coming to when a guy can't even enjoy a day off from the stresses of everyday life without some A-HOLE robbing them of the simple pleasure and escape that fishing provides?... Hope who ever did it get bitten on the *** by Karma (x10) !
For you guys going out this weekend, be vigilant and look out for any suspicious activity or people looking out of place...maybe take notice of their license plate or take special notice of their physical description.
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Its a shame, I try to park the Leaf Mobile where I can see it at all times, limits where one can fish though. :(
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News Flash! Tire slasher on the loose! Omg ,what next on the Vedder?
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the slasher is probably targeting flossers......maybe the slasher is working for Karma? Makes sense to me considering the canal is slutted out to the max right now.
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That is sad :(
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pretty damn sad indeed.....holmes*
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News Flash! Tire slasher on the loose! Omg ,what next on the Vedder?
True, but this is the most i've seen in one day.
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the slasher is probably targeting flossers......maybe the slasher is working for Karma? Makes sense to me considering the canal is slutted out to the max right now.
Well i guess that makes it O...K... ::) :P
Now explain that to the lady who parked her car there because she wanted to walk her dog.
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whoa seroiously guys? face/palm
i cant believe this bullspit happens...but yet again...if you go to the circus expect to see clowns, right? I'm just glad my rivers i frequent dont have this kind of crap and the guys there look out for one another and the river. might as well keep the garbage in one place i guess, i dont even consider the vedder a river anymore.
EVERYONE GO TO THE VEDDER TONS OF FISH OMG GO NOW!!!!
i heard about this the other day too, a guy got his tires slashed for parking on the wrong side of the road
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Coming out from the lower canal on the dyke, we saw tow trucks helping tow away cars with slashed tires. One guy was an American who was quite upset. He said that only American license plates were targeted by the tire slashers. Is this true? If yes, it is quite sickening for some one to do this. We are not at war with our friendly neighbour down south and they come up to spend tourist $$$ and contribute to our economy while paying big bucks to fish, only to get such treatment. I hope this is not true and the attacks are random. We don't want the Americans to send their commando up here to protect their citizens' assets. ;D Seriously, we need law enforcement folks to patrol the river if this continues.
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Hmmmm, with the crazies breaking windows, slashing tires, rubbing roe on cars, it should be pretty easy to set up some kind of vid cam that works on motion. Or gee, maybe some undercover police monitoring with all the tax dollars generated to the local areas? Seems gov't is quick to collect but slow to provide.
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If anyone has any info on this please report to the authorities. I have also been a victim of something like this a few years ago at the cap.
Edit: I was out this morning and didn't see any of this but we need to ensure that people that do this kind of thing are held accountable.
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I was around the area also. From what I was told by an american family who also had their tires flattened, only the US license plate cars/trucks got their tires slashed. They were a nice family who were planning to stay for a couple of weeks, but had to change their plan after the incident.
Pretty sad to have this/these moron(s) on the loose.
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Yet another reason why I want nothing to do with the Vedder.
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Yet another reason why I want nothing to do with the Vedder.
Wont go near it during Salmon season! Now its totally out of control! The crowds are so thick that locals are targetting Americans because they dont want outsiders fishing our waters!Whoa,its getting crazier with each passing year.They need to shut it down NOW!
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What a sad story indeed!
If anyone has their car vandalised, they should report it to the police, no matter how minor, so that authorities could become aware how serious the situation is on the Vedder.
This kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable in a civilised socieity.
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Yet another reason why I want nothing to do with the Vedder.
X2, I will only go back very early in the year or very late in the year, when 90% of the crowds are gone.
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Oh wonderful, what an enlightened view of the situation. Regardless of where folks are from they are in my books entitled to fish free of harassment. What if you were on a holiday, whether it be in the U.S., or another part of Canada and someone did this to your vehicle. Would you ever go back to that place, probably not.
I know it has been said to look out for shady goings on, and to report it to RAPP, or to call in vandalism to the RCMP. However, I think this type of crap has gone on far too long on the Vedder. What I would like to see is a reward put out for the culprits responsible for this senseless vandalism. A hat could be passed around amongst businesses, such as hotels, tackle shops, campgrounds, gas stations, and restaurants. The amount collected could easily amount to a couple of thousand bucks, and hopefully lead to some of their buddies spilling the beans on the morons who were responsible for the tire slashings.
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Slashing tires is ridiculous but I dont want americans coming up here and fishing our rivers. They have plenty of rivers down south
I think they are in the minority and we should welcome them like they do when we go South which thousands do for many reasons including fishing. We also have to thank the Americans a lot for our security and what they did in World War11 for the free world. That's is another topic and should go to general discussion if it wants to be discussed but most likely a topic not for this web site but maybe I am wrong on that. We did discuss the HST. ;D ;D
I also would add, I welcome one and all to my community but do not appreciate all the garbage they leave behind, :( its terrible out there just after we cleaned most of it up 2 weeks ago today. I don't think they are just Americans doing that. :-X
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A decent number of Canadians venture just south of the border to fish - especially for Bass. Now, what if these Canadians were being targeted by vandals as well? Come on people. Who cares if some Americans come and fish here. They're our friends and neighbors, and frankly people from WA state are a lot nicer and friendlier than people here in BC. Would you prefer it if the Vedder was packed with newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and don't speak English?
We go down to the U.S. and shop, get gas, thereby increasing prices near the border - and some Americans get annoyed. But, they also need to feel thankful that we support their economy. Visiting Americans help contribute to the local economy. Believe me, not a lot of Americans have any interest in coming into Canada. If it takes a Salmon run to get them to spend their money over here, then so be it. We don't really have anything else to offer them, that they don't already have.
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absolute efin BS.
I hope those A-holes get what is coming to them. perhaps a game camera ?
considering the number of people affected , everyone should be calling the RCMP to complain or hopefully a tip. The RCMP will react if enough heat is placed on them.
This is one of the examples where comunities can demand for action, perhaps to divert vigilant action, like what happend up at Slesse creek in the early nineties. Perp had the living crap kicked out of him, caught red handed by the wrong guys.
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Would you prefer it if the Vedder was packed with newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and don't speak English?
what's wrong with newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and can't speak English? don't they pay taxes like you too? they don't look like you and don't speak your language doesn't mean you are good and they are bad.
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We also have to thank the Americans a lot for our security and what they did in World War11 for the free world. That's is another topic and should go to general discussion if it wants to be discussed but most likely a topic not for this web site but maybe I am wrong on that. We did discuss the HST. ;D ;D
I'll bite on this one, Chris.
While the US did contribute arms and equipment to the European war effort, most notably great quantities of trucks to the Sovier Union, after Germany invaded in 1941, they did not actually declare war on Germany until Dec 1941, after Pearl Harbour. England, Canada and other countries entered the war in Sep 1939 following the German invasion of Poland.
The European war could not have been won without the US but the great question for historians is would they have entered the European war without Pearl Harbour?
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What if you were on a holiday, whether it be in the U.S., or another part of Canada and someone did this to your vehicle. Would you ever go back to that place, probably not.
No...but that was probably the idea. It is quite ridiculous down there at KWB. I was fish the Yarrow area at Wilson road. Only 4 or 5 guys down at my end, and no one fishing my little pond that I was hoping was holding coho. Unfortunately there were no willing coho, but I did find the pinks eager to bite, although most were pretty old and the hook seemed to pull out even easier than normal. These little guys must really have an inferiority complex they way the are so aggressive. As my fly would move over them they would just go berserk and feign to attack it. I did get to see why their bites are so soft too, as unlike a coho that turns when it grabs the hook, the pinks grab the hook and keep swimming with it in the mouth. If they turn it is only slightly, so it is not until the next strip that you fell that slight resistance and realize you have a bite on.
Anyhow, after failing to locate any coho up there, I drove down to see the show at KWB and wow. There must have been 30 cars on the north side of the bridge alone and the dike had cars parked on both sides of the roadway. There had to be over a hundred guys and gals fishing those first few runs below the bridge. From what I saw, the rest of the river was business as usual... it was just there.
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There had to be over a hundred guys and gals fishing those first few runs below the bridge. From what I saw, the rest of the river was business as usual... it was just there.
That is amazing. But, why only there in such great concentration of anglers?
I haven't been up to Vedder since April, but coho would normally migrate up river, especially if their is lots of pressure along the canal.
Beyond KWB, there are many good spots like Brown, Hopedale, Lickman, Peach just to name a few spots, at least for steelheading.
So why are so many fisherman hell bent on that small piece of real estate?
Do cohos go off the bite after passing that point?
Must be a reason. I am just curious..... ???
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That is amazing. But, why only there in such great concentration of anglers?
I haven't been up to Vedder since April, but coho would normally migrate up river, especially if their is lots of pressure along the canal.
Beyond KWB, there are many good spots like Brown, Hopedale, Lickman, Peach just to name a few spots, at least for steelheading.
So why are so many fisherman hell bent on that small piece of real estate?
Do cohos go off the bite after passing that point?
Must be a reason. I am just curious..... ???
Several personal reasons:
1. Tidal influence in the lower canal
2. Greater numbers of fish. The further you go upstream the more get picked off and the less there are
3. Less travelling time
4. Fish are less gear shy and spooky
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Anyhow, after failing to locate any coho up there, I drove down to see the show at KWB and wow. There must have been 30 cars on the north side of the bridge alone and the dike had cars parked on both sides of the roadway. There had to be over a hundred guys and gals fishing those first few runs below the bridge. From what I saw, the rest of the river was business as usual... it was just there.
the first guy i saw fixing his tire was up at cedars...i came across another truck with flat tires at the crossing.
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I'll bite on this one, Chris.
While the US did contribute arms and equipment to the European war effort, most notably great quantities of trucks to the Sovier Union, after Germany invaded in 1941, they did not actually declare war on Germany until Dec 1941, after Pearl Harbour. England, Canada and other countries entered the war in Sep 1939 following the German invasion of Poland.
The European war could not have been won without the US but the great question for historians is would they have entered the European war without Pearl Harbour?
I totally agree...let's not forget Japan would have never surrendered if it wasn't for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Not to insult America, but I think they take too much credit for the second world war... History shows that the war could have gone the other way.
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Slashing tires is ridiculous but I dont want americans coming up here and fishing our rivers. They have plenty of rivers down south
Why would you say that? It would be like them saying they don't like Canadians going down South to buy their gas and create lineups at the border and traffic on their streets.
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i'll tell ya one thing, if i caught someone messing with anything of mine, especially slashing my tires?, just call the coroner cause there would be no need to call a paramedic for someone thats gutted like a fish, and im serious, i dont even know how u folks fish over there with all those ppl, let alone put up with this kind of BS, im sure glad i live over on this rock away from all that crap, yikes, id be in court, or jail, quicker than u could catch a sockeye last year,lol, >:( :o .....holmes*
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Decided to spend some TG time at home, but we took a drive through all ares and toured the hatchery. The pockets of fishing are really filled with vehicles, and it made it clear that with all the vehicles, someone had to have seen something suspicious.
I think the news should have jumped on this. Trigger a few calls. Now its probably too late. People forget.
One thing for sure. Posting a game camera isn't an option. Too many areas. Need people watching. I'm keeping my camera handy now as I drive by. If it looks suspicious, it probably is...
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A decent number of Canadians venture just south of the border to fish - especially for Bass. Now, what if these Canadians were being targeted by vandals as well? Come on people. Who cares if some Americans come and fish here. They're our friends and neighbors, and frankly people from WA state are a lot nicer and friendlier than people here in BC. Would you prefer it if the Vedder was packed with newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and don't speak English?
We go down to the U.S. and shop, get gas, thereby increasing prices near the border - and some Americans get annoyed. But, they also need to feel thankful that we support their economy. Visiting Americans help contribute to the local economy. Believe me, not a lot of Americans have any interest in coming into Canada. If it takes a Salmon run to get them to spend their money over here, then so be it. We don't really have anything else to offer them, that they don't already have.
Wow, the ignorance never ceases to amaze me, not even citizens? Guess what nobody who immigrates to Canada is automatically a Canadian citizen. ::) Your logic is you want Americans to fish up, here but don't want newly immigrants to Canada to fish the Vedder? Good thing your ignorant racist views are the minority in this country.
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Wow, the ignorance never ceases to amaze me, not even citizens? Guess what nobody who immigrates to Canada is automatically a Canadian citizen. ::) Your logic is you want Americans to fish up, here but don't want newly immigrants to Canada to fish the Vedder? Good thing your ignorant racist views are the minority in this country. I have no problem with Americans or new immigrants fishing, it's the racists that can stay home.
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I didn't fish on Saturday, but was up yesterday with my Dad. On the way back across the border at Sumas, the border agent specifically asked about our tires and said that 25 US vehicles had their tires slashed on Saturday, and a few on Sunday as well. I would gladly pay more for my BC Fishing license rather than fish Washington rivers. Why? Three reasons:
1. Access - most rivers down here are bordered almost exclusively by private property, so you either have to fish at a park packed with other fishermen or from a boat. I don't own a boat.
2. Distance - I grew up on the border (Lynden), and the Vedder, Fraser and Chehalis were the best fishing within a reasonable drive. The local river, the Nooksack, is prone to look like chocolate milk and is full of tribal nets (even for steelhead!). The only salmon I have ever seen or caught in the Nooksack are pinks, and they were under 2 pounds.
3. The people. For all of the 20 years I have fished the Vedder, I have been impressed with how friendly fellow fishermen are and how willing they were to help me learn to fish right. Camping on the Vedder and Chehalis were awesome experiences. Even with a crappy exchange rate, I still enjoy shopping at Fred's and eating at restaurants in BC.
I'm not so worried about my car being targeted that I would avoid the river, but I am starting to worry about whether this is the kind of place I want to bring my daughter to teach her to fish. I don't know how many Americans are flossing on the Vedder, but I do know plenty of Americans who do it right - short floating, fly fishing, and using hardware.
This is getting off-topic, but I wanted to mention what I noticed yesterday fishing near Vedder Crossing. 2/3 of the people there were "bottom bouncing", some with 2 foot leaders, and some clearly flossing with 4 foot + leaders. I arrived, landed by far the chromest fish of the day (that I saw) and immediately the people around me threw on floats and imitated my fishing style. I'm afraid that by avoiding the flossing crowds, the experienced fishermen are doing the river a real disservice - if people see you having success they will imitate your success.
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I'll bite on this one, Chris.
While the US did contribute arms and equipment to the European war effort, most notably great quantities of trucks to the Sovier Union, after Germany invaded in 1941, they did not actually declare war on Germany until Dec 1941, after Pearl Harbour. England, Canada and other countries entered the war in Sep 1939 following the German invasion of Poland.
The European war could not have been won without the US but the great question for historians is would they have entered the European war without Pearl Harbour?
for the record Britain made it's last debt payment to the US on Dec 29 2006 in full! Nothing was for free, the lend lease deal was rewritten in the early 50's after the US and Britain/France had a spat over the Suez. Although the US's contribution to the war effort was crucial to the ally success, they are deemed to be the only country that financially gained from it. That aside there cannot be a price put on the the human toll it took, that is immeasurable and sacred.
sorry for the rant!
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http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/709274/Vedder_River_Trip_Tire_Slasher.html#Post709274
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Even with a crappy exchange rate, I still enjoy shopping at Fred's and eating at restaurants in BC
Crappy exchange rate? Last I checked the Yankee buck was worth more then our Loonie. :'(
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...crowds? What crowds?
My two buddies and I fished two awesome spots Saturday and Sunday - one on the mid river, one in the lower, and had both spots pretty much to ourselves.
Stop whining about KWB every time something like this happens. KWB and adjacent areas are the worst of the worst because they bring the worst of the worst of "anglers" to the river. The same holds true for the Tamihi and a couple more spots later in the season.
Fish there at your own risk.
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Can I go fishing with you Milo? We found spots to ourselves, but not many fish were present in the area, haha!
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...crowds? What crowds?
My two buddies and I fished two awesome spots Saturday and Sunday - one on the mid river, one in the lower, and had both spots pretty much to ourselves.
Stop whining about KWB every time something like this happens. KWB and adjacent areas are the worst of the worst because they bring the worst of the worst of "anglers" to the river. The same holds true for the Tamihi and a couple more spots later in the season.
Fish there at your own risk.
i would rather hear people whine than over react and turn to vigilantism... i too, hate seeing people snagging and abusing unwanted fish, but to go as far as slashing tires...that's just plain criminal....and believe or not, some of the cars with slashed tires were parked at the crossing, thompson park, and cedars...No matter where you park, you're always at risk of being victimized.
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seem to remember some bad blood on the vedder in the early eighties between yarrow and the wack guys.
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I happen to be an american living in washington and have been fishing the vedder and fraser for 5 years now. sometimes I stay with a canadian friend in chilliwack and sometimes I prefer the vedder campground. the reasons I fish canada is the quality of some of the salmon, the unbelievable landscapes,very very nice people, very helpful. unless your under the keith wilson bridge ;D.
Four years ago up at the boundry hole our vehicles were targeted with slashed tires and vulgarities towards americans scatched into our cars, I figured in that instance it was just a case of fishermen believing we had no right to their private boulders on the river.
Really in most cases I believe it is a drug/ meth users unemployeed and in need of quick income, we have the same issues here in washington.
I pay 120.00 for a licence which usually yields a couple of springs, a bunch of chums except for last year and a coho or two, I like to think I am contributing to your economy and I know many of you get a kick out of some of us yankees as I do with some of you.One thing I know is there are some masterful fishermen in canada and I always seem to learn something new. I will be down this coming weekend and am looking forward to meeting some of you on the river.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...crowds? What crowds?
My two buddies and I fished two awesome spots Saturday and Sunday - one on the mid river, one in the lower, and had both spots pretty much to ourselves.
Stop whining about KWB every time something like this happens. KWB and adjacent areas are the worst of the worst because they bring the worst of the worst of "anglers" to the river. The same holds true for the Tamihi and a couple more spots later in the season.
Fish there at your own risk.
Hey Milo we saw you guys on Sunday and yes you guys were pretty much all by yourselves. We were out all weekend long and every where we went we had the areas pretty much all to ourselves as well. We did not even have to go far off the beaten path either which was lucky for us as because of my back injury I am not able to walk much. We found alot of fish and were surprised not too see anyone fishing the runs.
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Would you prefer it if the Vedder was packed with newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and don't speak English?
Are you a racist?
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This thread is deterioating rapidly.
As for American or whatever national, fishing the vedder or any other river? We would have too be the dumbest hammers in the sack to not realise the benifits to the local economies from the angling visitor. I'm sure glad our US friends are usually very welcoming.
You have a designed put and take fishery within driving distance of GVRD, what do we expect? my favourite spot happens to be a couple of hundred others as well, If you don't have some other spots in your head then perhaps your not as good as you think.
try pocket waters?
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Im just a very selfish fisherman and I know lots that feel the same as me. The vedder is a total zoo these days, its pathetic. As someone that grew up by yarrow in the 80's and 90's its shocking to see what salmon season has turned into.
Amen to that brother.
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KWB and adjacent areas are the worst of the worst because they bring the worst of the worst of "anglers" to the river. The same holds true for the Tamihi and a couple more spots later in the season.
Fish there at your own risk.
Don't fish near KWB, terrible place. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCQJaO-gUg
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Hey Milo we saw you guys on Sunday and yes you guys were pretty much all by yourselves. We were out all weekend long and every where we went we had the areas pretty much all to ourselves as well. We did not even have to go far off the beaten path either which was lucky for us as because of my back injury I am not able to walk much. We found alot of fish and were surprised not too see anyone fishing the runs.
They all followed Rod to KWB. ;D ;D
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I thought you could always find Rod at KWB :-\
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Are you a racist?
Racists are just ignorant cowards, when they get called out they have nothing to say. I actually feel bad for the guy (Sam6140), it's pathetic.
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I've followed this thread but since I no longer fish the place have nothing to add-except that CBC Radio were going to do a feature on this-announced it after the World At Six tonight.
I then listened to their droning bull for 90 minutes and heard nothing more. >:(
Since I do some radio volunteer work I know shows are always a work in progress-if I hear anything more will report back.
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Stopped at the Chilliwack Hatchery today and was told more tires slashed around Allisson pool. I also stopped at cement slabs to clean up some garbage and an American visitor told me his vehicle was keyed, saw the damage. He said others were keyed too. :( We need a bait car out there.
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Stopped at the Chilliwack Hatchery today and was told more tires slashed around Allisson pool. I also stopped at cement slabs to clean up some garbage and an American visitor told me his vehicle was keyed, saw the damage. He said others were keyed too. :( We need a bait car out there.
Has it all been Americans who've been targeted? That's just ridiculous and getting out of hand....Obviously who ever is doing this is getting bolder and fearless. I hope the American contingency apply pressure to the Ministry of Tourism to increase police presence because this has to stop. Eventually, these perpetrators will turn to other victims when they've run out of Americans to hash out their frustrations or sick needs. :-\ >:(
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Im out of province right now.How many Americans are we talking about coming to the Vedder?
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don't know how many, but from what's been reported over 35 cars with American plates have been vandalized...who's to say how many more has been targeted without being reported...maybe off the river, in and out of town?
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I totally agree...let's not forget Japan would have never surrendered if it wasn't for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Not to insult America, but I think they take too much credit for the second world war... History shows that the war could have gone the other way.
Agreed. Japan would never have surrendered if it was not for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I also find they take too much credit for the second world war, it was the two world wars that propelled them to become the world's "super power". But being in Canada you can't ignore that USA has been watching our back for many years. Even though we never asked for the protection, we were provided these services (being neighbor to the USA). So if you put away all the drama related to the fisheries, lumber, water, etc life has been pretty good living in Canada, and especially beautiful British Columbia!
To think of things in a more retrospective way, if it wasn't for Germany's impact during the Second World War in Europe, would all the colonies around the world have gotten independence? I'm sure England didn't grant independence to India because they felt that colonization was wrong? lol.
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A decent number of Canadians venture just south of the border to fish - especially for Bass. Now, what if these Canadians were being targeted by vandals as well? Come on people. Who cares if some Americans come and fish here. They're our friends and neighbors, and frankly people from WA state are a lot nicer and friendlier than people here in BC. Would you prefer it if the Vedder was packed with newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and don't speak English?
We go down to the U.S. and shop, get gas, thereby increasing prices near the border - and some Americans get annoyed. But, they also need to feel thankful that we support their economy. Visiting Americans help contribute to the local economy. Believe me, not a lot of Americans have any interest in coming into Canada. If it takes a Salmon run to get them to spend their money over here, then so be it. We don't really have anything else to offer them, that they don't already have.
We have great Real Estate compared to our neighbors. Last time i checked housing prices were dropping like crazy in the USA. Then again its also the "newly immigrated Canadians who aren't even citizens and dont speak English" that are fueling our economy right now. If it was not for this great group of new immigrants, we would be feeling the recession a lot worse. So before praising the Americans so much about them spending their money during the Salmon Run (maybe a few hundred bucks a year), remember its the ones that don't speak English (bringing over millions of dollars to Canada) are the ones that contribute the most.
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I'll bite on this one, Chris.
While the US did contribute arms and equipment to the European war effort, most notably great quantities of trucks to the Sovier Union, after Germany invaded in 1941, they did not actually declare war on Germany until Dec 1941, after Pearl Harbour. England, Canada and other countries entered the war in Sep 1939 following the German invasion of Poland.
The European war could not have been won without the US but the great question for historians is would they have entered the European war without Pearl Harbour?
Speaking of Pearl Harbour brings up a lot of controversies, like the one about the Americans knowing about the attack and using it as a "reason" for the USA to enter war, specially during the Great Depression in the USA. And after the war we all know what happen to the American Economy.
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http://www.bclocalnews.com/fraser_valley/theprogress/news/131536858.html
http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/news/Hooked+catching+tire+slasher/5542507/story.html
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some it seems need to do some research on the events leading up too, during and the imediate post WW2.
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From Fred's Custom Tackle.
"REWARD... We are funding a reward of up to $2,000 for the arrest and conviction of the person(s) responsible for the recent rash of vehicular vandalism on the Chilliwack/Vedder River. If you have any information please contact the Chilliwack RCMP at (604) 792-4611 or Fred's Custom Tackle at (604) 858-7344."
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From Fred's Custom Tackle.
"REWARD... We are funding a reward of up to $2,000 for the arrest and conviction of the person(s) responsible for the recent rash of vehicular vandalism on the Chilliwack/Vedder River. If you have any information please contact the Chilliwack RCMP at (604) 792-4611 or Fred's Custom Tackle at (604) 858-7344."
Good on Fred!!
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http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/news/Hooked+catching+tire+slasher/5542507/story.html
Uh oh.....the war on drugs to the war on poverty....then comes the war on terror and now war on tire slashers!
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It certainly reflects badly on the reputation of Chilliwack and Canada in general. It may only be one or two low-lifes that are doing this but its the community in general that takes the biggest hit. I have a sister that married an american and in my travels to their lovely country I have met almost always people not much different than my Canadian friends here. Honest, friendly, compassionate and caring and I have always been treated well as a visiting Canadian.
All I can say is I hope someone catches the person or people that are doing this and they are punished to the full extent of the law. Yeah, yeah, I know. A couple slaps on the butt and away they go, free to terrorize again. Oh well, it is what it is. I do hope that they are fully outed and identified and maybe a little public shaming would do them a world of good.
To all Americans reading FWR, I extend a full welcome to our lovely country to all of you and apologize for the very few who display cowardice, weakness and hate.
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No matter what the USA has done in the last few years resulting in "hatred", its stupid to go slash someone's tires, there is a reason why when you travel around the world and tell someone your Canadian, people usually have a very positive image. Lets catch these criminals so we can live up to our reputation!
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To all Americans reading FWR, I extend a full welcome to our lovely country to all of you and apologize for the very few who display cowardice, weakness and hate.
Me too!
Carl Z
Vancouver BC
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At the FVSS meeting tonight we were told a meeting is going to be held shortly with the mayor of Chilliwack, RCMP and others to attempt to deal with this, the FVSS will attend and has commirtted some dollars if needed to deal with this isuue.
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some it seems need to do some research on the events leading up too, during and the imediate post WW2.
No need if you paid attention to History classes from grade school on....but then again, it depends whether you went to school in the States or not...they seem to think WW2 started after Pearl Harbour.
Ask them about the Treaty of Versailles and the invasion of Poland and they'll look at you like you're from some distant planet.
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It certainly reflects badly on the reputation of Chilliwack and Canada in general.
I don't know if I'd go as far as the reputation of CANADA, but definitely Chilliwack...No different from Vancouver's rep when it comes to the Cup finals.
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I don't know if I'd go as far as the reputation of CANADA, but definitely Chilliwack...No different from Vancouver's rep when it comes to the Cup finals.
that is true...Chilliwack can't represent entire Canada or British Columbia. And a lot of people who rioted in Vancouver were not local, a lot from Surrey, Abottsford, etc. Guess some people did not care about the city since they weren't local and had to ruin it for the ones who were.
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It certainly reflects badly on the reputation of Chilliwack and Canada in general. It may only be one or two low-lifes that are doing this but its the community in general that takes the biggest hit. I have a sister that married an american and in my travels to their lovely country I have met almost always people not much different than my Canadian friends here. Honest, friendly, compassionate and caring and I have always been treated well as a visiting Canadian.
All I can say is I hope someone catches the person or people that are doing this and they are punished to the full extent of the law. Yeah, yeah, I know. A couple slaps on the butt and away they go, free to terrorize again. Oh well, it is what it is. I do hope that they are fully outed and identified and maybe a little public shaming would do them a world of good.
To all Americans reading FWR, I extend a full welcome to our lovely country to all of you and apologize for the very few who display cowardice, weakness and hate.
If our legal system let this go free without much punishment, perhaps the Americans can collectively bring a class action suit to this/these criminal(s) if ever caught, to make sure he/they pay for all the damages and emotional hurt. If a burned tongue from hot coffee of Mcdonald can bring in million dollars of law suit, the American folks can make sure this/these guy(s) will go broke for life. ;D
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Wouldn't need a class action lawsuit (very difficult to setup) but just the legal fees to fight 50 or so claims would clean him out.
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At the FVSS meeting tonight we were told a meeting is going to be held shortly with the mayor of Chilliwack, RCMP and others to attempt to deal with this, the FVSS will attend and has commirtted some dollars if needed to deal with this isuue.
Well I hope they discussed the general increase in theft and vandalism in that area and not just this incident as extreme as it is.
All the backroads from Abbotsford to Hope give me the heebie jeebies. :-\
Unfortunately Mr T. Slashers message probably worked and many of the victims will not be back in the future.
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Well I hope they discussed the general increase in theft and vandalism in that area and not just this incident as extreme as it is.
All the backroads from Abbotsford to Hope give me the heebie jeebies. :-\
Unfortunately Mr T. Slashers message probably worked and many of the victims will not be back in the future.
Yes I hope so, I plan to go when the meeting is called if I am not out of town. Actually it should be an open meeting for all interested to attend.
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I'm from Bellingham and have had to put up with this sort of crap more than once, I've really questioned if it's worth coming up your way, exactly what this low life is hoping for. First time just simple break in, broke my window and stole about five bucks worth of stuff. Second time about four years ago came back to load the boat and all four tires slashed plus hood of car keyed, nothing taken. Next time got one tire slashed and rear quarter panel keyed, felt lucky they didn't slash two tires since I only carry one spare. Next time about two years ago, one trailer tire slashed. This year I decided NOT to buy a license. So with me and my buddies I take, Canada lost out on about three hundred and fifty bucks of license fees. One thing I have decided, Canada is a VERY expensive place to fish! Just counting the cost of tires, window and towing I'd say I'm down about two thousand dollars. What a waste of my hard earned cash.
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It shouldn't be like that at all here. Case of having a large population and the statistics of having nut bars. Same thing use to happen when you parked in San Fran or Los Angles with BC, or probably even Washington plates.
Just like having your car broken into in front of the house. Only that's more convenient. Some low life or mentally deficient person comes along to ruin the day.
It would be nice if they had a shuttle from a place like Fred's to spots on the river for people from south of the border until the creep is caught.
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This year I decided NOT to buy a license. So with me and my buddies I take, Canada lost out on about three hundred and fifty bucks of license fees. One thing I have decided, Canada is a VERY expensive place to fish!
I think a 120 bucks for an non resident to fish our waters is a bargain.1000 bucks would be more like it and the revenues generated, put back into the resource such as hiring a few more fisheries officers to clean up the mess we see on our world famous river.
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Hey Dennis.............bet you a thousand bucks it's not the visitors paying $120 for a license that's leaving the garbage, think about it. Heck, I've picked up garbage before when I've fish up there! And $120 dollars isn't chump change for a license. If you want to fish down here, Washington State only charges $82.50 for non-resident aliens. And if you head to the Washington Coast we do still have world class fishing. Maybe you need to think a little more before you post?
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I'm from Bellingham and have had to put up with this sort of crap more than once, I've really questioned if it's worth coming up your way, exactly what this low life is hoping for. First time just simple break in, broke my window and stole about five bucks worth of stuff. Second time about four years ago came back to load the boat and all four tires slashed plus hood of car keyed, nothing taken. Next time got one tire slashed and rear quarter panel keyed, felt lucky they didn't slash two tires since I only carry one spare. Next time about two years ago, one trailer tire slashed. This year I decided NOT to buy a license. So with me and my buddies I take, Canada lost out on about three hundred and fifty bucks of license fees. One thing I have decided, Canada is a VERY expensive place to fish! Just counting the cost of tires, window and towing I'd say I'm down about two thousand dollars. What a waste of my hard earned cash.
I have sent your coments to our Mayor, there is a meeting next week, I have asked to see if that is an open meeting to the public, will inform.
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Hey Dennis.............bet you a thousand bucks it's not the visitors paying $120 for a license that's leaving the garbage, think about it. Heck, I've picked up garbage before when I've fish up there! And $120 dollars isn't chump change for a license. If you want to fish down here, Washington State only charges $82.50 for non-resident aliens. And if you head to the Washington Coast we do still have world class fishing. Maybe you need to think a little more before you post?
Not talking about the garbage left on the banks.Talking about all the unethical fishing practices happening on the river.Barbed hooks/poaching/fishing in closed areas/tire slashers etc.Have no desire to fish Washington State.
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May I say it again Dennis..................think before you post. YOU want people from outside your country to pay for a problem caused by the local population? Slashed tires, garbage on the banks, poaching, unethical fishing? Do you really think outsiders should pay for a local problem. I'll bet you another thousand bucks, it's NOT people from the US that's causing these issues!
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May I say it again Dennis..................think before you post. YOU want people from outside your country to pay for a problem caused by the local population? Slashed tires, garbage on the banks, poaching, unethical fishing? Do you really think outsiders should pay for a local problem. I'll bet you another thousand bucks, it's NOT people from the US that's causing these issues!
what makes you think it's strictly local? i've seen americans throw their garbage in fire pits while camping up river and not clean up after themselves....i see as many of you flossing KWB and Tamahi as local fishermen... don't let frustration turn to finger pointing, it's unproductive.
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If one American fisher can have so many bad incidents in the past, think about how many incidents with all of them combined? Where are our police force? They should be setting up bait cars with American plates and with hiding camera ready to catch this low life on tape. These incidents against the Americans will get to the media down south and Chilliwack, perhaps even Vancouver or Canadians will get a bad name for it. So RCMP should put in the effort to catch the individual(s) doing this.
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Washington state and all those nearby states have no fish and are horrible places. Just keep repeating that to yourself and all your friends, heck even post it on all the forums that you go to. ;D I consider the four hundred bucks or so that I pay yearly for licenses a complete waste and I only do it to help their economy. ::) I feel sorry for anyone that has their vehicle damaged while fishing,it has never happened to me when I am south of the line. Personally I would like to be legally able to put their fingers on a rock and turn the bones to mush with another rock. No medical coverage when they get to the hospital either, no cash go home. ;D
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I have sent your comments to our Mayor, there is a meeting next week, I have asked to see if that is an open meeting to the public, will inform.
I'd have done the same ........When I hear about this type of vandalism being inflicted on our visiting friends from the US it makes me downright ashamed to be Canadian...we wouldnt want this to happen to guests visiting our houses (from wherever) yet some here seem to condone it towards US anglers.
Their money is as good as anyone Else's, more importantly they're guests in our country for God's sake....no one deserves to have their property damaged,
Be warned... if I see anyone damaging a vehicle with Canadian OR US plates I'll call the cops
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May I say it again Dennis..................think before you post. YOU want people from outside your country to pay for a problem caused by the local population? Slashed tires, garbage on the banks, poaching, unethical fishing? Do you really think outsiders should pay for a local problem. I'll bet you another thousand bucks, it's NOT people from the US that's causing these issues!
It's true people from the US cause problems in other parts of the world!
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It's true people from the US cause problems in other parts of the world!
Your a mean one :)
Or put out movies like "SHAFT". Loved that soundtract though.