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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: hue-nut on January 20, 2009, 08:04:36 PM

Title: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: hue-nut on January 20, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
just wondering if some of the more experience guys on here can give their two cents in regards to Steelhead etiquette.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: kingpin on January 20, 2009, 08:08:33 PM
dont cut in below someone working a run already, if you want to pass them Kindly ask to go below, they may say yes or no. dont wade through a tail out guys are fishing. the next is a personal option, if a guy misses a fish do u cast in before he gets a chance or wait for him to try again? i dont do it to friends or strangers(unless im pissed off at them). Dont crowd a guy out if he hooks a fish.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: Geff_t on January 20, 2009, 08:11:03 PM
I did not know that there was any left.  It was funny when I was out on Sunday searun and I where fishing a run from the top and we where moving down to where this other angler was fence posting.  I asked him if it was alright for me to move below him and start fishing. The puzzled look on his face when I asked him made me realize he had no idea what I was doing. I have had on far to many occasions people just jump in below as we are making our way down a run that I do not even say anything to them but I do make a loud enough remark about how etiquette is missing these days on the river.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: Fish Assassin on January 20, 2009, 08:13:41 PM
Reel your line in when someone hooks a fish and let him fight it. Wait til he either lands or lose the fish before resuming casting.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: bones on January 20, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
i definitly think that alot has been lost but at the same time i think that the stealhead season is one season that is alittle bit of that etiquette still left. however i could just be luck and have ran into the few nice guys out there

Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: hue-nut on January 20, 2009, 09:15:05 PM
haha, nice one for your first post buddy, good to see you are finally a member, there's lots to learn on this site. thanks for the replies guys, seems like the way you fish a run is where a lot of etiquette is lost. I usually come up to a run and chat with whoever is fishing it and if they say its cool then I fish it with them, if not I move on. I've never had someone say no though, people in general seem a lot less uptight during steely season.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: younggun on January 20, 2009, 11:21:26 PM
give the spey dudes PLENTY of room, even consider not fishing the run.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: glx on January 20, 2009, 11:26:29 PM
defenetly, if your within 3 miles of one, they get up tight ;)
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: Morty on January 20, 2009, 11:57:57 PM
if you have a dog with you and someone near you has a fish on, get control of your dog.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: Fish Assassin on January 21, 2009, 12:08:05 AM
Take your bait containers and excess line out with you.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: brood dude on January 21, 2009, 07:10:59 AM
i hit the vedder twice in the last week. i can say that after explaining to a guy who cut in 10 feet below us! >:( it was not cool, all he said was "aaa sorry dude" and did it again 3 minuets later! so i talked to his buddy who seemed , to be a little more experienced. i was wrong he was more retarded than the first guy. i have to say that with all my experiences on that river i m sick of it! fishing water with a$$&^%!@s is not how i want to spend my time off.  no common sense, no brains period! ??? :o if  a guy has got roots i will always ask him if i can go below him, if not i hit the next run.if  a guy is working a run i give him room and fish behind him.unless invited to do otherwise. it is that simple!

the part that i really hate is 9 times out of 10 i m picking up their coffee cups and crap as i fish behind them! ignorant and rude would be how i would describe at least 80% of the guys out on that system. >:(
i guess the only people with manners are the ones from this site?

if i do go back this season i will bring the spey rod and won't be shy to swing close to anyone who tries to "snake" me on  a run.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: troutbreath on January 21, 2009, 07:33:22 AM
If your retired, don't fish on the weekends :)
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: younggun on January 21, 2009, 08:26:54 AM
i personally haven't had any real problems with guys low holing me, more than a few times i'm half through the run, and i'll see a pair or an anlger waiting for me to work a little bit farther down before they even move in. So mabey its the area of river i fish, but none the less its not that! bad.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: dss on January 21, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
Way too often I start at the top of a run and starting working my way down only have to have some jackass drop in 15 ft below me when I'm halfway through it. The other day I was just getting to the tailout and 2 guys decided to walk out and fish the rest of the run for me.

There are some people out there who try and do it right but about 90% or more don't give a **** or just don't care to learn. The vedder is a meat fishery and that mentality doesn't really change from salmon season to steelhead , there are just a few less guys to deal with.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: brood dude on January 21, 2009, 05:29:10 PM
i agree with both of you.

i once saw a guy walk up and down the lickman area with a winter run about 4 times while i worked a run! hmmmm, i wonder what he is compensating for? i don't retain steelhead but in salmon season as soon as i limit out i m gone. why should i parade around with a bag full of fish and advertize (ruffly) where they were caught! i think it's silly.

 i would love to see threads about river conditions and that's it!

Steelhead season is now definitely a continuation of Coho/fall season,  the same meat mentality exists .The HYPING of Steelhead success on the internet brings more pressure to succeed to newer and older anglers alike, Etiquette only gets better because the numbers are traditionally lower of fisherman,  Number one thing, i believe most  < is keep spots secret from internet lurkers< keep these to your friends and pals , i can guarantee you the slab will be full at 630am now due to someone saying a person landed a fish there. The best steelheaders i know dont report on the net, they have a close knit group of friends that get the goods, they realize that there arent that many around so when they find them or a good spot, they take extra precautions to protect it, thus being etiquette friendly
I wonder if we know the same people ;) That has always seemed like common sense to me but these days it is not all that common. In fact I don't understand why people post at all. Maybe if you are a guide and want to promote your business but the average joe fisherman shouldn't have any motive too? I know for a fact that everyone I know likes it when the river is empty. I guess the thrill of the catch is not enough for some people and they need to brag about their catch to others. Whether they know them or not.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: chris gadsden on January 21, 2009, 06:12:30 PM
Is bar fishing the middle of a run bad etiquette? I`ve thought about setting up a bar rig and spin n glo as there is nothing illegal about it and would probably be very effective. Would I face a bunch of angry fisher people who think they own the river and would they try and evict me? Just curious.

A few older anglers that can not walk around the river with ease any more like to bar fish on the Vedder. The ones I have seen do not set up their bar rigs in areas where they are in the way.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: Rodney on January 21, 2009, 06:14:50 PM
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: hue-nut on January 21, 2009, 07:33:23 PM
thanks for the replies guys. I would like too think that I post with some discretion but it should be noted that not all of us have tons of friends that go fishing all the time. I'm 27 years old and fish probably on average 3 to 4 times a week, I've got one buddy that fishes a lot, other than that I have no one else to check with on conditions and where the fish are. I love it when people post about their catch cause it not so much gives me specifics about where to go but rather gives me "stoke" for fishing and getting back out there, especially during Steelhead season. I mean is that not what this forum is all about, people that are stoked on fishing? If all you want is water conditions just look at the hydrograph and you will never have to worry about internet lurkers or talk to anyone you don't know. I know that people do tons of bragging and compensating for what they lack but that comes with any sport, its to be expected. I like this site cause it puts me in contact with other guys/gals that are super passionate about fishing. I would rather hear a report from someone on here than the guy at the tackle shop who is trying to sell me something. I've learned a ton from the members of this site and value your opinions even if they are different from mine. thanks
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: Knutsford on January 21, 2009, 08:31:10 PM
maybe instead of saying you caught fish at an exact spot, you could say mid, upper or lower, then I'm sure people wouldn't get offended when someone reports a fish caught.
Title: Re: Steelhead Etiquette
Post by: hue-nut on January 21, 2009, 10:38:10 PM
well put fellas, I will put that advice under my hat and any reports to come will not be area specific. Cammer, well put, that is ultimately the kind of respect that I want on the river down the road.