Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: Green Horn on July 01, 2008, 04:11:08 PM
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We are heading for trouble on our salmon fishing. I know, and about all us fisherman know people are abusing the legal daily limits of fish.
Why have we not thought of or put in place a salmon tag. Buy a fishing licence and then get ONE chinook stamp. One Sockeye. One Chum ect ect ect...get my drift? That way..after your tag is used you will not be able to keep/retain anymore salmon..catch and release only. Catch your chinook...remove your tag....punch the date....tag your fish....you're laughing!!!
Or has this been hashed out..but I missed it??
Just mad about all the laws and no teeth!
Bob
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The problems facing the Salmon fishery are environmental in nature and can't be solved by bureaucrats.
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You're probably right SS but it doesn't mean it is a bad idea to do what we can. Beats throwing your hands up in the air.
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I would be happy to be able to just catch even one of each salmon species to keep .The only trouble is I cant catch even just one salmon in a whole year.Just save some for me and less for the greedy suits me fine.
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Those that will tag their fish will obey the limit. Those that's not obeying catch limit... they won't be tagging.
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I thought about something like that for Sockeye openings. Maybe you buy a book of tags for a set price. All socks landed must be kept and all fish must have a tag, no exceptions.
You could even make the tag books be a draw like in the Limited Entry Hunting. Once you are out of tags, no more fishing for that species.
This method would give the DFO a rough idea of how many fish would be taken via controlling the number of tags going out.
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And yet another darn good idea of the use of tags. How does a person get the powers that be to look into this. So to save our fisheries. And make more money for extra D.F.O. manpower! (or woman power)
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Those that will tag their fish will obey the limit. Those that's not obeying catch limit... they won't be tagging.
Exactly,
I hear about this every year where guys will quickly scratch down their catch on their license a couple seconds before the DFO's show up.
It would be just as easy for them to stamp a sticker on,
I like the idea but it won't stop those who fish illegally.
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You would think DFO would see the person quickly pulling out their liscence, why not go over to that person right away before they can write it down. I'm pretty sure DFO could also fine them anyways since they have ultimate authority.
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there were tags about 18years ago, i think it was a trial thing.
I remember buying the licence, and also buying 3 or 4 tags aswell, as soon as the fish was landed
it was like a zap strap threw the mouth and gills.
I'm suprised you old farts don't remember this.
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You would think DFO would see the person quickly pulling out their liscence, why not go over to that person right away before they can write it down. I'm pretty sure DFO could also fine them anyways since they have ultimate authority.
I know what you mean but with two or three guys in a big boat, with a canopy, it doesnt take much for the guy to jot it down quick if his license is somewhat handy.
Its unfortunate...
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So what about fish purchased at the side of the road?Are we going to see tags on those too?All anyone has to say now is that is where their fish came from!
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What about us dumbasses who can't catch a damn thing?
We just enjoy getting out, and trying. Not much expectation of catching anything, but that's not why I'm doing it.
I like the peace fishing brings me....
Did some guy suggest a book of tags for the season?
That's nothing but a money grab, another in a long list of them, but the Bureaucracy doesn't need any more work.
I ain't pre-paying for something I'm unlikely to catch, anymore than I already have to.
Dude probably works for the DFO, who micro-managed everything to death on the east coast. Job security issues, y'know.
"We'll tell you how to manage the stocks, OK? We'll tell you when you can, and more importantly when you cannot fish, OK? Mummy knows best,...and we'll tell you when the fishery is finally kaput!...but we'll be the last ones out, if you get my drift. We'll get the light."
Moby ********
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I agree with the idea of the tags, but I think it'll be a nightmare trying to enforce it. No matter what you do... someone will find a way to get around it which is sad if we're trying to preserve our fisheries for the future. I think it'll be easier to shut down the river for retention every odd year or month to give the fish a chance.
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Nothing will work other than laws and harsh punishment.
The laws are there we just have to work on the punishment part.
If you had to sit in jail for a year for catching 1 fish over limit, you wouldn't do it.
And if all of you had to balls to report people who do, instead of "it's none of my business" thinking, things would be great.
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Keener is spot on. It's a total waste of time, effort and money unless it can be policed and enforced properly.
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I Dont know where you fish (I would assume LM) but where I am at (VI) it definitely wasn't a problem with people overfilling their coolers on salmon? Even our hatchery rivers had poor returns - I saw a lot of guys on the river going home blanked. May I suggest a Limited Entry Fishery to catch one or two exceptional fish from exceptional systems that do not usually allow retention? The money earned to rehab our fisheries vs. the number of fish caught would be unbelievable.
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Got a few points with respect to what I think is a idea long overdue. First is the need to contact your local Sport Fish Advisory Board member and ask them what are they recommending on this topic. Probably like most sport fishing anglers in the province you ask who would that be. Well you are using the machine in front of you so go get it. What I have found out is that the majority of the people on the main board are all personnally interested in thier own little world and understand little about topics outside thier own area of expertise. I do know they have very little representation from some very large fishery areas. The bulk of the people sitting on the board deal with salt water issues. We do have Sport Fish Advisory committies that feed into the larger group but a group such as the Upper Fraser Valley has only one representitive on the main board. Thats a pretty significant group of anglers for only one voice.
Anyway you ask them whats up. Now you will hear the negative aspects of a punchcard system. It's a money grab. It's more government garp. Thats true but we need to look at what is happening now, what happened in the past and can we afford to sit on our hands any longer. If we think that some magic spell is going to suddenly fix all our problems then we only have ourselves to blame. We each have a voice. We just don't do a good enough job letting others inside the circle of influence hear it. Everything we do from now on will require each of us to give a little to benefit. Be aware that as things get worse big money will suddenly appear like it has in other parts of the world but the problem is we as common anglers will be left watching from the sidelines. Once we start something like LEH fishing for conservation reasons we can never go back. Big money continues to roll into our province via sport fishing. Any way we can take a percentage of that to put into the resouce for all to benefit is a good thing.
A third a final point with respect to punchcards. They have been in use for salmon and steelhead and I don't really hear a strong voice trying to get rid of them.
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There is some new information to contribute to this topic.
In the latest BC Outdoors FISHING there is a GREAT article about where our money from licensing and tags is going.
TO GENERAL GOVERNMENT REVENUES.