Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Randog on September 27, 2005, 07:08:52 PM
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OK so here's the deal, whats your preference and why. Just interested to see who uses what and why.
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Never used a Centerpin, but I like the level-wind because of the gear ratio when reeling in.
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I'll be using my level wind until daddy buys me a pin or rodney decideds to donate one to me :-*
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My preferance is flyfishing . but when drift fishing I like my Kingfisher . I love the fight on a single action reel.
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I use both
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i love my centrepin (learn to spell the canadain way!!!) landed my first fish on it on saturday. First fish could have been a big spring but he came off.
BTW Randy i got 6skeins of pink roe waiting to be gobbled up by sturgeon. and i got friday off!
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i love my levelwind cause of how easy it's to use never had a centre pin to make judgement though im interested in picking one up as i've heard good thing's about them
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I prefer centerpin, learned to steelhead fish with seldex in the 60's now use a nice 4.5 inch reel made by Don Campbell from Hope. It's a gentler swing when casting with a centerpin and your roe seems to last longer, also when you bust one off on a centerpin you know exactly who's to blame, actually when fighting a fish on the centerpin it's just you and the fish you can apply more pressure or let it run free at will no messing with the drag or thumbing your spool when the drag already has pressure on it. Bleeding knuckles are something that usually only happen once or twice in the learning cycle but I still occasionally get burns on the palm of my hand from long runs and big fish. No pleasure without a little pain!
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i love my centrepin (learn to spell the canadain way!!!) landed my first fish on it on saturday.
C a n a d i a n. ;D
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Moochers all the way...does that technically count as a centrepin... ??? ;D
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I love it when people correct other people and misspell something!
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Love my kingfisher. fished twice with it and prefer it to my levelwind. Better to cast and drift. Dont have to mess with the clutch bar. A blast to fight fish tho it can tire your arm quicker
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centerpin all the way for drift fishing. level wind/fly rod for the fraser. but all in all canter pins are the best
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i've used a centrepin chucking spoons and spinners. it works great.
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Wow, very interesting, the polls are almost dead even.
When I started float fishing I always used a level wind reel, and only once in a while I would see the "Older" anglers using centerpin reels as they where waaaay to expensive for a someone in their mid teens to afford. But fast forward twenty some years and it seems every teenage lad owns one? I mean I see lots of young anglers toting around $1000.00 fishing combos and wonder how in the heck they can afford this kind of gear? Or is it just a fashion statement? I still have and use my original Daiwa Millionaire 4HM and 10 1/2' Fenwick drift rod that I still use even today for Coho and Steelhead. Having said that, I do own and use centerpin reels as they provide a superior drag free drift.
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My preference depends on the technique I am apply ;) I assume your question is focused on river angling techniques? When I am fishing spinners and spoons, I prefer a spinning reel on a fast med-action spinning rod. I went through a fairly serious centrepin phase a couple of years ago, owning 4 custom built centrepin rods and 4 centrepin reels. However, I now prefer a low-profile baitcaster over the centrepin for general river angling, because they are more versatile and faster. Have you guys ever tried casting just a 2/5 oz BC steel spoon or lil-cleo by itself with your centrepin, your not gonna be able to cast too far :P I am currently using a shimano calais, got no problem chucking a 2/5 oz spoon or a # 3-4 Blue Fox Vibrax spinner without any added weight. A typical baitcaster has a retrieve ratio from 4:1 to 6.2:1, which allows you to reel much faster than a centrepin reel that has a 1:1 ratio. Yes, I know the diameter of the reel arbor has to be taken into consideration when comparing the two kinds of reels ::) Just try a a super long cast and drift with a centrepin, so much more work reeling in ::)
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I have to agree with you Carlo. Long casting a CP= Lots of winding.
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randy fish friday or what?
and my centrepin setup aint 1000$ i paid like 250$ and you have the same setup.
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Dion, how about Wed, or Thurs? BTW any word from "THE BOSS" in Terrace?
off for a little online Texas holdem....damn I'm hooked!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Centerpin all the way. When you are playing a fish it is you and your reel controlling your tussle with the fish. I do not have to worry about the gears or having the correct tension set. Also I always remember my dad saying many years ago "See those star drag reels" as they called them in the old days, "we do not use them". So I was taught at a early age center pins were the reels to use. Call me old fashion if you wish but I love my old Avons. ;D
I do not worry that I can not get as many casts as a level wind fisher can in a day as my experience more than makes up for it. ;D ;D ;D
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avons are the only way to GO :) :) got two of them and boy do i LOVE them :) ;D
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I love to "fish" with my Calais because of it's speed and lightweight, however I love to "catch" with my pin as it is more of an experience when fighting the fish....since I do a lot more "fishing" than I do "catching" I usually end up taking my baitcaster.
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Dion, how about Wed, or Thurs? BTW any word from "THE BOSS" in Terrace?
off for a little online Texas holdem....damn I'm hooked!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gotta work both days. and no word from teh boss which means he's doing good mostlikely. Where do you play holdem.??
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Pin all the way. Fished with a Islander Steelhead for only a week and theres no going back to bait casters.
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Grew up with a fly reel, didn't know anything different back then.
Found out about spinning reels, and went through a handfull.
Moochers kinda reminded me of the younger days...
Found out about levelwinds, and now have six. Deadly efficiency, too much so at times.
Fly reels still feel most comfortable...
Found out about Islander Centrepin's, and felt kinda like going back into second childhood!
Easy choice at this stage ;)
Cheers,
Nog
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Centerpins offer better drift control and it's a joy to fight a fish. As Chrome Mykiss and Randog has alluded to; baitcasters have a higher retrieve ratio. More casts means more water covered and that generally equates to more fish. Both are excellent choices. It's a personal choice
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pins have no drag, right?
so i have to ask...at the end of the day...what is more efficient....your tired palm slowing the pin or a proper drag in good baitcaster?
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I like spiner. easy to use not too pricey, good for almost all occations. Let it be float fishing, lure, bb, downrigging, or mooching. :D
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the fun factor far outweighs the pain! drags aren't all good, it's no fun when you hook a hot fish that takes a big run and he drag heats up and expands and tightens itslef.....PING, good bye fishy.
so instead your skin on the palm of your hand heats up? :o
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the fun factor far outweighs the pain! drags aren't all good, it's no fun when you hook a hot fish that takes a big run and he drag heats up and expands and tightens itslef.....PING, good bye fishy.
so instead your skin on the palm of your hand heats up? :o
Yap and it's a double treat. Fish at end of the line and you can start to smell BBQ. ;D
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The voting is still very close with the Center pins leading the way. Much like the Canucks will do in the real season ;D
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Don't go there Randog. It's just another invitation for Chris to chime in with his Leaf chant.
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The voting is still very close with the Center pins leading the way. Much like the Canucks will do in the real season ;D
totally randog canucks are gonna kill this year.. did u happen to see rutus hit?
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the fun factor far outweighs the pain! drags aren't all good, it's no fun when you hook a hot fish that takes a big run and he drag heats up and expands and tightens itslef.....PING, good bye fishy.
so instead your skin on the palm of your hand heats up? :o
Dip it in water. its normally pretty cold lol.
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I believe when people say that a Center Pin is slow to reel in is BS. Well slightly, Because the Center Pin has a larger Arbour compared to the level wind so it is able to pick up alot of line ;)
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I have an Islander Steelheader for my first centrepin reel, sorta wish it didn't take as much line as it does ( probably have 250 yrds of line on it at least) with less line it would be a little lighter and cast a bit quicker, dunno if a bushing instead of bearing would be better also.
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Bushing vs bearing. In general, given two identical pins with the same spool and line weight, the bushing reel would require less initial force to overcome the inertia of spool to make it spin. In other words, it would require less time to load up the rod and it would be able to cast lighter weights. I have both but it is hard to compare as they are different spool designs and line capacity. For casting lighter weights I use a 3 1/2" Avon bushing reel on a 9' rod. It feathers very light weights, but my drifts are short because I don't want to spend most of the time winding in my line.
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Pinhead, I've already removed a bunch and still have a ton before I get even close to my backing. I may as well own a 3.5 reel instead of a 4 inch more reeling than I would prefer and is a pain in the butt when a fish comes strait at you. Why not design a 4 inch reel that holds 150 yards of line?? Its not like you would ever let a fish take that much out. ( pop it off or chase it otherwise)
FB, I wish I had the name of a guy I met on the Vedder last year, he had his Islander reel modified with bushing insted of bearings and it was alot easier to cast than my bearing one ( dunno if Islander had a kit for it or if he did it himself.)
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Well so far I picked baitcasters over a spinning real. I haven't had a chance to use a Centrepin yet. I own an Islander Steelheader which I have not spooled or tried yet. I just haven't been able to decide wether I want to buy another rod for fishing.
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Islguy, I have an Islander and it does take a $hit load of line. I fill it to the max because otherwise you lose efficiency in retrieve. It does feel like a pretty hefty reel after a long day of fishing.
It sounds like the guy modded the Islander by putting a sleeve in the spool. It takes precision machining to make a mod like that and probably requires a long time break in time to get it silky smooth...that's where bearings has it's advantages the break in period is short. Bearings have a break in period and will get smoother before eventually failing from heat or contamination. In a fishing reel, the bearings usually fail from the latter so take good care of it.
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Doesn't matter which reel you use man it is all about your bait presentation like the depth and bait size. ;)
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Presentation? I have the right presentation, think the guy who makes my roe pee's in it tho.........
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Yes islander guy pissing in the roe gives it all the natural salt needed.LOL. It works great.
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I like the push button reels like my kids got there the best. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Islanderguy, sounds like that Islander reel is alot of trouble for you. ;)
I will do you a favor and take it off your hands, my Hardy's would love the
company.
Centerpins were made for fishermen, Baitcasters were made so people could catch fish.
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Bait Casters have put a lot of anglers on our streams who would not be there if they had to use a centerpin reel. Centerpin reels are very simplistic in their design, unlike baitcasters. Very little goes wrong with a centerpin reel which can not be said about levelwinds. Yes, you can cover more water using the baitcaster, but many an angler have lost fish due to mechanical problems.
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I have never used a pin but im guessing they are more fun to fight a fish on. Nothing like palming a screaming single action reel!
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I switched to a pin for the smaller flows a couple years ago. Now the only time I use a baitcaster is when I'm BBing the Fraser for sox. Other than that I use big Penn 320-1's for Sturgies. I have a small spincaster for chucking spoons from the boat and also an Abu Eon for for the same purpose. I've also been knowen to chuck feathers once in awhile too :o
I what I'm trying to say is I will use whatever just to get out fishing, however some methods are better suited to certain types of tackle and gear.
My fav. is a pin with a steelhead on the end of the line if I had to choose.
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Well, it's official, more center pinners than level winders. ;D ;D