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British Columbia Sport & Outdoor Lounge => Sport Chat => Topic started by: Big Steel on September 18, 2005, 04:27:16 PM
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Was wondering what everyone thought of the rule changes for this year?? Do you think that they are going to help? Make a better game? Increase scoring?
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Being a purist of the game I hate them. It is to suit the American viewing audience nothing more. Americans wont go and see 1-0 or 3-2 games they would find it boring. So now they want the games to be 8-7 or 7-6. I feel sorry for the goalies.
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Should start a new record book,to many changes to what was a great product to begin with. You will probably see way more 50 goal scorers this year and 100 points will be the norm for your top players which will make it interesting. Who will wi n scoring race Bert ? Forsberg ? ........
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Well I was a goalie for 14 years, and I am a purest as well. I do not feel sorry for the goalies one bit. They have taken advantage of the gear in anyway that they could. Football shoulder pads, massive oversized jersey, not to mention the glove. It is about time that the NHL makes goaltending about skills and not about who wears the biggest equipment. Also as a 32 year old, old fashioned to me is the late 70's to early 80's. I don't remember to many 1-0 or 2-1 games then. So you can be a purest, and believe in a game that you were never there to see. I grew up with high scoring and fast paced games, and over the last ten years we were seeing none of that. I like most of the rule changes. Don't really care if it was done for the americans or not. It will make a more entertaining brand of hockey. I think allot of canadians, whether they wine or moan now, will like it when they see it. Just one man's opinion though.
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Big Steel I am 31 years old and I was also a goalie. I grew up in the same era as you and in the 80's it was a high scoring game but the rules were no different except they allowed the goalies to start wearing bigger equiptment and I also didnt agree with the size of their pads. I think the goalie equiptment change was a good idea but thats it. Getting rid of the center line is the biggest joke. Nothing like having floaters all over the ice.......
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I think removing the center line is a joke but i do agree in down sizeing the goalie equipment,all they really needed to do was to come down hard on all the interference , hooking ,clutching and grabbing,that alone would open up the game to the more skilled players.Look back to the mid eighties there were no gimmicks to improve scoring and there was no shortage of goals,the main problem with todays nhl is there are far to many teams and not enough talent to go around , that is what has resulted in less skilled teams having to clutch and grab just to be able to compete.My biggest concern with all the changes this year is it will take the hitting out of the game and turn it into figure skating with hockey sticks.
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i guess they did it to eliminate the trap and try to widen the zone coverage.
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I'm not sure about the rule that keeps you from tatooing "Victoriaville" on an offensive player in front of your net. That was where the battles were won and lost. And they made for great replays :o
I DO like limiting where the goalie can handle the puck... did they instate that rule?
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Yes Dragonspeed, I believe they did. Was watching the highlights, and they have got new lines behind the net on either side. Past those lines the goalie cannot touch the puck. ;D ;D
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Yes Dragonspeed, I believe they did. Was watching the highlights, and they have got new lines behind the net on either side. Past those lines the goalie cannot touch the puck. ;D ;D
Another option I would have been happy with is "Goalies are PASTEABLE behind the red line" :D :D :D :D
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Remember the World Hockey Association ? They had two line passing. The end result was that mediocre players were suddenly 50 goal scorers. Remember Danny Lawson of the Vancouver Blazers ?
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just saw the highlights from some of the preseason games. those goalies look alot skinnier with their smaller pads and blockers. ;D
good saves are alot more spectacular to watch and the great goalies will stand out more. :)
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Yes, I thinkthat some of the goalies that everyone thought were great aren't going to be so great anymore. But, that is just fine by me. Goaltending should be all about talent and reflexes again. Don't know how Cloutier will fare with these rule changes, but look at the bright side. We still have Alex Auld. He is very big, a stand-up goalie, and given enough playing time, I think that he will turn into one hack of a goalie. I already think that he is a better goalie than Cloutier anyways. Auld shouldn't have to wait that long though, Clouts usually get hurt pretty quick anyways!!!!! ::) ::)
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Another Cloutier fan I see. ;D
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I dont know why everyone is so hard on Cloutier. Look at his regular season numbers. Hes in the top 5 for wins over the past 3 years. He is a good goaltender and I am thinking he is poised for a great season. He sure doesn't lack heart as he's always fired up.
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i think cloutier is injured. he was absent at the jake milford golf tournament held here in richmond a couple of days ago....(Ohlund was also absent due to a bad back)
i for one think he's a great goalie and a great a person.
i work for a company that hosts the tournament annually. so i have the privilege of talking with some of the players on occasion.
i met Park, MacArthy(sp?), and Carter for the first time and they were all very nice. although i think macarthy wasn't too pleased with being traded to Vancouver from Chicago.
Crawford comes across as arrogant and Jovanaski is a bit of a snob.
Naslund and Bertuzzi were their normal selves, hanging out together being very conservative.
the twins, Salo, Rhuttu, and a couple of the other Europeans hung out together.
then of course there were Morrison and Linden (both class acts) who hung out with everybody else.
to top it all off i got autographs from Ron Dalorme, Harold Snepts, Richard Brodeur, Stan Smyl, Kirk Mclean, and Odjick. ;D
Sorry, i didn't mean to go off topic. ::)
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Eddie i will agree with you, Cloutier does have good REGULAR season numbers. BUT, he does get hurt allot and he also has shown nothing but frustration in the play-offs. To me you are nothing if you are not a performer when it counts. I do like him as a person. He does seem like a great guy. He does have to put up with allot of crap. I would like nothing better for him to prove me and so many other people wrong. But I just don't see that happening.
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this year is pretty much, 'the make it or break it' year for most of the canuck players. not just dan cloutier. they had their chances in the past, but they blew it on some poor plays and poor decision making. :'(
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I agree Steel but Cloutier got hurt in the playoffs the last season so he didnt really get a chance to prove it last time. In the playoffs this year he needs to perform their is no doubt about it. If he is the reason they lose any games I will be the first to say that he's not the right guy. If he plays and they lose because of the rest of the team than we have to look somewhere else. I still think the Canucks are missing a good stay at home defenseman. They need a Murray Baron on their team. Someone who can cleatr guys infront of the net.
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Is Dana Murzyn coming out of retirement ? ;D
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Yes clouts did get hurt in the playoffs, and it was the team that let Alex Auld down. In my opinion, Alex played his my friend off last year in the playoffs. He showed that he can play when the pressure is on, and man was it on. To me he at least showed that he deserves more of a chance this year. ;)