Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: BIG T on May 06, 2005, 10:16:53 PM
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interested in purchasing a lamiglas dave vedder center pin rod,medium light .8-12 ib line rated.any comparison between stryker 2106 ,sage 2106 or g-loomis ???? seeing advice or information,...thanks
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the sage 2106 is sweet and the only 2106 I'd consider. However my top choice for the rods you listed is the G.Loomis STR 1363 GL3. One of THE SWEETEST centerpin rods I've ever fished.
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However my top choice for the rods you listed is the G.Loomis STR 1363 GL3. One of THE SWEETEST centerpin rods I've ever fished.
what is the line rated at,cause i am looking for a light action rod ,mainly for steelhead and coho at the vedder...i already had a medium action center pin rod for steelhead(line rated 10-17),but i think it is a bit heavy for the steelie,so what do you guy think,any more advice??????
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Agree that the 2106 is one sweet rod. Use it all the time for cohos and steelheads.
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check out the warranty situation. I broke a Lamiglass once and it took the 13, yes 13 months to have Lamiglass repair it. I think any other company wouold be quicker.
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Thanks for all the input
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Warranty was the first thing that came to my mind (sage is by far the best in the industry). As well, I dont think the 2106 is that light a rod...My buddy has one and while its great for the coho, it managed some big stinky whites from the same run...are you sure a 2106 id rates 8-12??
I have built up 2 lami's, a 9 foot rated 8-12lb and a 10 foot rated 6-10lb, they are both very nice rods and the blanks were much cheaper than a sage...think of what your fishing stile is like and how much abuse this rod will take and decide if the warranty is that important.
Bug Pumper got a great St Croix, 11' (I think) rated 8-12, its a really nice rod too..PM him, I am sure he would eb happy to give feedback.
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There is a sage 3113 LB on angling bc 9sorry rod)...you should check it out BigT
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thanks Gooey,i am going to check it out,at the same time ,i will go to northshore tackle and check out the difference on prices and quality.thanks again
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the gl3 str1363 loomis is rated 6 to 12 and is 11ft 3 long
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today i went to highwater tackle and check out the lamiiglas certified pro version rod.found out they only use the single foot guide on the front section,but not the sage and g-loomis,why??any information on this matter,is it too weak for the front section????may be only for the medium light action rod(1/8 to 1/2 oz lure weeight and line rated 8-12lb) ???they prize it approx $350 with limited lifetime warranty
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There should be no significant difference between single or double foots when it comes to strength. When my Stryker 2106 (rated 8 to 12) was being built. I requested double foot but was recommended with single foot, for cosmetic reasons, apparently it looks better, and it does! :)
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There should be no significant difference between single or double foots when it comes to strength. When my Stryker 2106 (rated 8 to 12) was being built. I requested double foot but was recommended with single foot, for cosmetic reasons, apparently it looks better, and it does! :)
hi rodney,ihow do you like you stryker 2106,is it set up for center pin????
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What's the difference between the Stryker and Sage 2106 ?
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What's the difference between the Stryker and Sage 2106 ?
Price. ;D
I don't know, I can't comment on that without being biased since I've never really used a SAGE before.
Big T, I love my 2106. It's super light, set up for a baitcasting reel. You can also request to have one made for the centerpin. Since I started using it last fall, I've caught:
dozens of coho (a couple up to 16lb)
two steelhead
dozens of bull trout
spring jacks
It seems like a good all round medium size rods. It's really easy on the body as it is light like I said. Itosh can tell you how light exactly it is later on tonight. ;) The price is also right, if you are interested in one give Russ a call at 604-585-6958, mention Fishing with Rod and see what deals he can get you right now.
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thanks rodney,i will give them a call.and i will make my decision very quick...
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sage will have thier new line of factory rods in stores real quick. saw the new factory versions of the same rods we have all come accustomed to, 3106, 2106, 3113, 4120 ect. They look pretty good. ya might wanna see if any shops have them in yet.....
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sage will have thier new line of factory rods in stores real quick. saw the new factory versions of the same rods we have all come accustomed to, 3106, 2106, 3113, 4120 ect. They look pretty good. ya might wanna see if any shops have them in yet.....
Just wondering where you saw them? was it on a website somewhere?
Just curious.
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Big T, I recommend single foot guides. Why:
#1 - weight - less metal, half as much thread and epoxy = less fatigue after a long day
#2 - less friction when casting - this one I am not so sure of myself but a custom rod builder down south said that because the double foot guides have a much lower profile they cause more friction. A centre pin is deep (compared to a bait cast), the flatter the angle from the top of the spool where the line comes off to the first eye,the better, single foot guide is taller and there for has a flatter angle and this causes less friction.
I dont know if you have fished a centre pin befor, but I find you hold the rod out in front of your body more than a bait cast so I find my back can really feel it...trust me when i tell you the reduced weight of single foot guides is good.
The lamiglas I built (6-10lb) has a center pin handle and with small spin guides. I can use a pin or a spin cast reel on it. These rods arent cheap so I though by having spin guides, I could put on a light action reel and cast small jigs and spoons, otherwise use a pin for bait. i am very pleased with how it fishes!
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another reason to purchase a rod with single foot guides, they bend easier when bushwacking and then can break, therefore making you need rod repairs. You may notice the weight difference, but it's not worth losing the durability if you bushwack a lot The lower framed guides seem to not get caught on bushes, trees,etc when bushwacking.I see lots of bent guides on my rods that do have single foot guides and I am not happy with them. The new factory biult Sage rods will be around $500.00 retail. I saw one of the first 4110's made for a baitcaster at Searun Tackle in coquitlam last week. I was told the selling price was going to be $550.00 for that rod.
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Has anyone ever have a guide break? Bend sure, but you just bend it back (as I have done on my double foot guides). Of coarse a higher profile guide may have a greater chance of getting snagged up if you arent careful, but that is true of any guide.
Heck branches will grab your line to an cause it to get nicked...doesnt mean you run 50lb test or braid...it means you take a little extra time and be careful.
I have a cloth rod bag the I put over my rod when i am hiking, it makes a huge difference in minimizing the hang ups.
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Never had a guide break
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After having to bend them back many times, I have broken a couple of guides but mostly popped out the inserts which Ihave had to epxoy back into place to make them stay in. Just never had this probelm with any of my low frame bnlg or bnsg fuji guides.
Just heard at lunch today that Sage hopes to start shipping factory built rods this coming friday to the BC tackle stores that have purchased stock, should be available to be looked by late next week.
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So far the Forecast guides on my Stryker rods have been very strong.
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/stryker/image/guide_ltcudug.jpg)
I've never had a guide broken on a drift rod actually, but have had spinning rod guides broken (ie. the edge cracks, the insert ring falls out etc).
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So far the Forecast guides on my Stryker rods have been very strong.
hi rodney,i think this is the single foot guide on your stryker rod 2106,by the way,what is the lure weight are rated (is it that important for center pin set up?)
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The 2106 is rated 6 to 12 lb. and I've used up to 1/2oz lure for coho with it. The action is moderate, a fairly soft rod. You have to ask Russ how well it performs as a centerpin rod since I have it as a baitcasting rod, which I love very much right now.
The Stryker 3106 centerpin rod is fast/moderate. The bottom section is fairly stiff, where as the top section is fairly soft. The rod retains great sensitivity but at the same time is able to handle fish of great size. It is rated 8 to 15 lb. My only complaint about that rod would be, since I am a small guy, the rod is fairly heavy for me to use. It gets a bit tiring, especially with the certerpin after a few hours of fishing.
You can see the specs on this page (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/stryker/castrods.html).
The photo above is actually a double foot guide, I can't find the single foot guide photo yet, but it's available when he builds the rod. The good thing about having the Stryker rod built is flexibility. There are four or five different colours of guides/tips to choose from, threads to match the guides, around 20 different reel seats as well.
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Thanks for all the information,i already decided,is going to be the 6-12 lb medium light action rod.since i already got a medium 8-17lb action center pin rod,wound like a lighter action this time for steelie or coho....Thanks again