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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: clarki on September 07, 2004, 07:47:01 PM

Title: Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: clarki on September 07, 2004, 07:47:01 PM
Any suggestions what braided line product to load onto my spinning reel?

I tried Spiderwire last year and wasn't happy with the results.

Almost time to start throwing a green stripe Koho....

Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 07, 2004, 08:09:55 PM
I'd tried Spiderwire, Spiderwire-Stealth, Tuff-line and Tuff-line XP.  None of these worked for me.

I am using Power-Pro and very happy with it. :)
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: canoe man on September 07, 2004, 08:16:47 PM
actually ive not seen anyone casting spoons with braided line
i tried it last year with fushion line which is what i used during sock season and it was to visible so i switched reels and went back to ten pound mono line for spoon and spinner chucking.
i think braided is good for bb-ing and from say reel to float but from there down id go with clear mono, maybe if you used a leader of mono to your spoon it would work jm2c  ;)
cnm
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 07, 2004, 08:22:57 PM
CNM, I use 18" to 24" of 12lb flourocarbon leader.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 07, 2004, 08:31:33 PM
sounds like a lot of xtra work to me.Never met a coho yet  or many chum that could get past my 10 or 12 lb mono.casts a mile on spinning or levelwind, has some strech for forgiveness and gives the fish a sporting chance.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Sam Salmon on September 07, 2004, 09:34:52 PM
FIRELINE-no better product.
It's exactly what you're looking for.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Spudcote on September 07, 2004, 10:03:35 PM
8 lb mono for Harrison chums...great fight
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 08, 2004, 06:14:13 AM
leave the sockeye gear at home
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: fisherkingnigel on September 08, 2004, 05:08:26 PM
I use braided line 40lb PE#4 for my Daiwa saltiga blast reel.
http://fishing.daiwa21.com/index.asp?ItemID=1551 (http://fishing.daiwa21.com/index.asp?ItemID=1551)
Maybe Japanese braided lines are better but I never have any problems with mine. The braided lure lines are multicolored, each color represents 10m in distance. It's pricy at about $40-$50 a spool but there's no headaches!


We use this line with a 25-80lb leader tied like this to the braided line.
I know it's in Japanese but if your a good fisherman you should be able to figure it out by the picture.
http://plaza.harmonix.ne.jp/~f-hayasi/subnot8.htm (http://plaza.harmonix.ne.jp/~f-hayasi/subnot8.htm)

Basically we cast heavy weighted jigs or minnow patters off Islands and channels and go for yellowtail,tunas and mahi mahi.

My point is braided line rocks if you're going to cast over 100m, you really can get those distances when your lures are 2-3 OZ. Mono would just fill up your reel and you wondn't have any room left in the reel once you have a fight.  Remember when casting these large lures use full length gloves to protect your hands from any backlash.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/nigelman/lures.bmp)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/nigelman/gloves.bmp)

Nigelman

Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 08, 2004, 05:15:34 PM
interesting pics and info, though the only thing around here we cast that far is a bouncing betty.I can cast as far as I need to on the Fraser and Pitt rivers (both very wide) with mono for the species I target.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 08, 2004, 06:31:33 PM
Lead, Have you ever cast Buzzbombs or Zinngers from the beach where the fishes are showing themselves and you have to make a distance cast (50 - 100 meters) to reach them.  I would not want to be on the sideline because of using Mono.  
IMHO, the places I would use a spinning rod/reel tidal waters and lakes --casting from shores or beaches.  I do not use a spinning set up for the flowing river.  
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 08, 2004, 06:57:17 PM
never used a buzz bomb but my understanding is they imitate a wounded bait fish tumbling down the water column in the midst of their  bretheren during a predatory attack, usually jigged from a boat in the ocean.Most coho travel close enough to shore in the rivers I fish to reach with a spoon spinner or kwikfish.And thats casting mono on a spinning reel though my levels will go farther and I use those also.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 08, 2004, 07:31:35 PM
If you read the instructions on the back, you will see how you would go about retieving it.  You are correct that it would represent a wounded bait fish.  Its retieve method is what make it so.

You will not see any instruction on how you would go about jigging it.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 08, 2004, 07:55:03 PM
http://www.steelheader.net/Salmon/beach_fishing.htm

I love to learn new methods, thanks.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: clarki on September 08, 2004, 09:16:27 PM
Thanks for the replies all. I'll give your suggestions a whirl.

My spinning reel that I use for coho is fairly small and can accomodate less than 105 yds of 10 lb and even less for 12 lb.  After I huck a large spoon aways out there, it doesn't leave me much room for error with the amount of line left on my reel. I hook the occasional spring most years and I wouldn't stand a chance.

In my experience, 10-12 mono doesn't cast as well as smaller diameter line and when in comes off the reel in coils it slaps against the lowermost guides and cuts down on my distance.

The brief time that I used a braided line last year I could fit much more on my spool and it cast tres smooth.    

Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 08, 2004, 09:20:14 PM
maybe use a bigger set up, will help with casting and fighting bigger fish more enjoyable.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: clarki on September 08, 2004, 09:30:19 PM
I've been thinking of upgrading to a slightly bigger reel for coho, and leave my smaller one for cutts, when the sales are on next winter, but for now I gots what I gots.  
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 09, 2004, 06:20:20 AM
A 20# braided line should do it.  
Make sure to wear protection on your fingers that handle the line.  I use a hockey tape on my index finger that I use for casting. 8)
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Gooey on September 09, 2004, 06:47:07 AM
I had a very nice shimano spirex loaded with 8lb mono.  Wasnt enough line after a few snap offs/snags so I decided to go to 14lb fireline...it was a good choice in terms for line but 1 season on the chehalis and the reel virtually blew up...especially the drag system.

If you need to use fireline because you dont have enough capacity on your reel then I would be tempted to say your reel is too small.  

Get a bigger reel, get the line capacity and a suitable drag system for your target.  

BTW stay away from rear drag reels....the disks are way smaller.  Smaller disks mean more pressure needed for the same holding power and that means faster wear!
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 09, 2004, 07:30:33 AM
here we go again lol.My preference is bottom drag all the way despite its shortcomings.I find it way more convienent to adjust during battle than top drag esp the fighting drag on my shimano symeter.

Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 09, 2004, 11:24:24 AM
When I looked for spinning reel tested all 'refutable' brands locally as well as in Seattle.  The big winners are Okuma for having the silky smoth powerful drag and Penn with the most powerful drag (HT100 drag).  Both just happen to be on the front.

I got one of each.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 09, 2004, 11:44:59 AM
cannot say enough about my old shimano fx 4000 bottom drag.traded a six pack for it years ago when it was already well used.Ive used it for years on every thing up to a 20lb spring in the Stave boulders (with much less than 12 lb mono) and countless coho chum dollies cuttys ect and with some maintenance and the odd bail wheel/spring replacement its truly a tough as nails reel, unlike my shimano symeter 4000 rh that Im scared to death of even getting dirty ::)Many reels can be upgraded in the drag washer, reel oil and bearing departement but for an old reel like that to last so long and keep on lasting says something about its durability.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 09, 2004, 12:14:06 PM
Lead, looks like  you got a really good deal on shimano fx 4000.
It sounds like you are really experienced in the local fishing.
Where/when do you fish for Dolly and how? ???

Any info you could share is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 09, 2004, 12:28:53 PM
mostly in the spring as the freshet is rising and the fry are being washed down to the chuck, we fish the Pitt and Fraser with roe mostly but am gonna try with my new fly rod next spring and cant wait.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/leadbelly/57390008.jpg)
 one from this spring.Also got canoeman and Trout slayer into their first this year too.
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 09, 2004, 12:46:52 PM
Thanks for the info Lead. :)
Title: Re:Braided line for spinning reel
Post by: leadbelly on September 09, 2004, 12:57:06 PM
also some interesting comments regarding braided line and casting with mono in the fishing reports section.