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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: SilverChaser on February 14, 2016, 04:55:28 PM
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JUST IN apparently someone fell into river near Allison pool, was heard screaming as floating down the river. People who heard had to travel 5km to get cell service, tons of police/fire/ambulance/SAR out right now looking for him.
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Ongoing rescue/recovery updates are at:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=559636497525864&id=502979406524907
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Ongoing rescue/recovery updates are at:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=559636497525864&id=502979406524907
Just looking at the updates are scaring me, not looking good so far :-[ :-[
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Heard on scanner, fell in near Allison and SARS recovered hung up in rocks at Osborne Rd. RCMP requested victims services. Thoughts and prays to victim, family and friends
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Ongoing rescue/recovery updates are at:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=559636497525864&id=502979406524907
What happened? Link doesn't work.
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What happened? Link doesn't work.
Man fell in by Allison , he was unfortunately found down by Osborne rd.
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Awful news
Prayers to family and friends
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Ambulance and police just flew by (I'm 1min from Freds on Vedder) can't confirm but have heard from a couple sources now he is still alive
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Ambulance and police just flew by (I'm 1min from Freds on Vedder) can't confirm but have heard from a couple sources now he is still alive
Seems so, hearing many different stories, we can hope the real story is positive.
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Really do hope this has a positive outcome
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Just read on Facebook that as of 8:30, the hospital still had him and that victim services was there. Hope all goes well.
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Also hope all goes well and that he has a full recovery, that must have been a hellish experience.
This serves as a reminder to be careful out there.
I have seen some anglers in waaaay deep and fast water ....alone. Bad things can, and do, happen in the blink of an eye.
Be safe.
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I just checked the river levels - 1.70 m mid day today. That is a STOUT level that would be considered VERY high for most anglers fishing (and the river would probably be blown out colour wise) and high+ for rafting & kayaking. You would be fishing all he in close stuff. Hard/technical enough to raft/kayak at that level, let alone swim without a PFD (I Presume the angler had no PFD?) in pretty darn cold water (3-5 degrees C?). If he did indeed fall in around Allison and get swept down to Osbourne that's around 6-7 km of river or so along with going through some stout water in the Trailer Park rapids, Tamahi rapids (which have some big holes at these levels) and all the gnarly stuff from between Tamahi downstream and Osbourne. I'm hoping this person pulls through, my thoughts and prayers are with this person and their family, whomever they are.
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The angler, in his early 20s, did not make it unfortunately.
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So sad.RIP guy
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Very sad news indeed. It would have been a miracle to survive being swept down a roaring river that distance through all those rapids. RIP. A sobering reminder to play safe. The river is high and fast, right now. And us humans are no match for it. :'(
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Wow so sad. My prayers for his family. While this forum provides us with an outlet to express our passion for fishing, it sometimes gets heated, but the bottom line is we all share something in common. A love for the outdoors, a passion that only us as fishermen will ever understand. We all have lost a brother today. Tight lines all and be safe.
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Very very sad news! Especially a younger fellow who had many years to fish ahead of him, RIP :-[
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Very sad to hear. We need to keep an eye on one another out on the river.
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Very sad news indeed, I was up in that area yesterday and the water was pretty hairy, left before all this happened. We all need to be careful out there, at the end of the day it's just a fish, not worth your life. Thoughts for his family and friends.
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Just got word that a young angler fell into the river at Allison and drowned. :-\
Can someone please elaborate? I hope it is not someone we know.
No fish is worth your life. Wear a PFD at all times.
Even better, stay home when the river is raging.
My heart goes out to his family.
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I just realized the unfortunate event has been talked about in the Chilliwack River Steelhead fishery thread.
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Yes very sad indeed. A terrible loss for the young mans family and friends.
I'm not saying this would have saved this mans life, but I believe everyone who wears chest waders should wear a belt at all times when fishing as it slows down the water from filling up your waders. Once your waders fill with water you might as well have a lead weight attached. If you feel the need to wade in some dicey areas, wear a PFD.
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Yes very sad indeed. A terrible loss for the young mans family and friends.
I'm not saying this would have saved this mans life, but I believe everyone who wears chest waders should wear a belt at all times when fishing as it slows down the water from filling up your waders. Once your waders fill with water you might as well have a lead weight attached. If you feel the need to wade in some dicey areas, wear a PFD.
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I had a close call many years ago on the Capilano. After losing my step down a steep trail and falling over the edge into the freezing angry river, I was very fortunate that the current literally pushed me to shore after going through a nasty chute. And also very fortunate that a fellow angler was standing on the bank and was able to help me drag myself out of the water.
I am a very strong swimmer (former water polo player), but that experience humbled me. I haven't fished the Capilano river since. And if I am ever to wade beyond knee depth, I make sure to wear a PFD.
Nobody ever thinks they will fall into the water on any given day. It just happens.
Be careful out there.
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http://www.theprogress.com/news/368862291.html
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Would a PFD keep you above water if your waders fill? Has this ever been tested? A 200 pound person only weighs about 10 pounds in water and most PFDs have about 22 pounds of buoyancy so I wonder how much extra force/weight filled waders would add.
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I wish the waders would have an inner inflatable ring around the waist, at the chest level above the belt. That would improve buoyancy and close off the leaks. It seems that would be an easy thing to add to the waders.
Same goes for the jackets. Inflatable pockets should be added to the chest and arm areas of the jacket. Placed correctly the pockets wouldn't even need to be large to keep a person safe.
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Would a PFD keep you above water if your waders fill? Has this ever been tested? A person only weighs about in water and most PFDs have about of buoyancy so I wonder how much extra force/weight filled waders would add.
Technically yes but, that said, water filled waders would be neutrally buoyant and neither float or sink. They are, however filled with several gallons of water that puts you at the mercy of the currents. It's massively difficult to move wearing water filled waders while in the water or on shore.
Always wear your wading belt, and make sure it's snug!!
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I wish the waders would have an inner inflatable ring around the waist, at the chest level above the belt. That would improve buoyancy and close off the leaks. It seems that would be an easy thing to add to the waders.
Same goes for the jackets. Inflatable pockets should be added to the chest and arm areas of the jacket. Placed correctly the pockets wouldn't even need to be large to keep a person safe.
Several problems especially on the jacket side.
One you need to be face up. Designing that would be tough.
Two you need to have serviceable cartridges. Potentiallyrics this would prevent jackets from working as required in regards to waterproofing. Also would need to seamlessly integrate them into the jacket in several locations, and have pulls. Likely hydrostatic wouldn't work if it was a waterproof jacket.
Three durability on the jacket would be tough. Need to put them in locations that don't have major wear with movement etc.
When worn properly a wading jacket and waders set up is exceedingly watertight. I wasn't even wearing a true wading jacket, just my Columbia titanium with the drawstring tight. Add waders, a belt, and the top drawstring on my simms tightened made for 5-10 seconds of no water when I fell in the Stave (bloody clay) but once that was over very little water entered before I got my footing again. I actually think the water entered at my neck but I'm not sure.
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Vancouver police marine squad has waterproof jackets with PFD built in. It's totally doable. If they have them I'm sure there's others using same application.
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What do you wear Noah?
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Very tragic and sad news. My condolence to the young anglers family. Always wear a belt and keep it sinched up tight. Always wear a PFD. If you fall in, try to keep yourself floating downstream with the current feet first so u can push/deflect yourself off the rocks if need be. The river is very high and fast. Play safe. :'(
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Technically yes but, that said, water filled waders would be neutrally buoyant and neither float or sink. They are, however filled with several gallons of water that puts you at the mercy of the currents. It's massively difficult to move wearing water filled waders while in the water or on shore.
Always wear your wading belt, and make sure it's snug!!
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Yep doesn't take much water at all in the waders to make moving difficult. Fished the pink run 4 years ago at furry creek,witnessed a fisherman who walking backwards to bring fish close to shore. The guy fell on his back in about a foot of water no more then foot and a half with a small tide coming in. It was difficult enough for the guy to get up that the 2 fisherman next to him stopped and helped it out. Guy had a belt on but it wasn't snug I believe..the amount of water in his waders from such a short period suggested so.
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What do you wear Noah?
I always have a belt on over my waders weather I'm bait fishing or fly fishing. If I'm fishing on a river the belt is always on and cinched up. sure I could wear a PFD while fishing but I've made a choice not to. I always wade within my limits. That said, accidents definetly happen like they did in this case.
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Absolutely horrible. Condolences to the family. Make sure you are safe when out there.
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Would a PFD keep you above water if your waders fill? Has this ever been tested? A 200 pound person only weighs about 10 pounds in water and most PFDs have about 22 pounds of buoyancy so I wonder how much extra force/weight filled waders would add.
I'll chime in on this topic, I'm one of the instructors for Kumsheen's River Navigation Course for Angler's. During one of the courses I went into the pool with my waders and wading belt, I could feel a small trickle of water entering when swimming. Next I removed the belt, initially with the water pressure my waders were compressed to my body, water slowly trickled in, once the seal broke my waders instantly filled. It was impossible to swim using my legs, the water encompassing my legs acted like a cast. It took all my effort to walk up a set of stairs. When I weighed myself I had 70 pounds of water in my waders!!! As others have stated, water is neutral in water.
So to answer you question, yes a Foam PFD will keep you above water, and will assist in reducing water penetration with the addition of a wading belt. An inflatable PFD will not assist in reducing water penetration into your waders. With no PFD or wading belt, once your waders fill with water it'll would be extremely difficult to swim to shore due to the inability to kick with your legs, and if a current catches excessive material around the chest area (parachute effect) you will be pulled under.
Inflatable PFD's are NOT designed for whitewater! Yes they are "better than nothing", but inflatable PFD have up to a 20% failure rate(not inflating), that's why they're equipped with a manual tube to self-inflate, which is not an option when floating down rapids or strong currents. They also lack enough straps to adequately secure to your torso, and have a tendency to ride up into your face or over you head, and with all of the flotation in the front it is very difficult to use the aggressive swimming position.
If the river is very shallow and there's tons of boulders then use the defensive swimming position(floating on back facing downstream with toes out of the water) The objective is to get out of the river as quick as possible, with winter fishing you will succumb to hypothermia very quickly and you will lose dexterity, strength and judgement within minutes. Use the aggressive swimming position, which is the front crawl with your head out of the water. Face upstream and aggressively swim towards shore with a roughly a 45 degree angle, look downstream when swimming to manoeuvre around rocks and logs. If you come to rocky section, simple roll over onto your back into the defensive position, once through that section roll onto your stomach and get aggressive. To avoid foot entrapment, never attempt to stand up in knee deep water with strong currents, if you get your foot stuck between rocks the current can topple you over and submerge your head.....this is a grave situation! Crawl up onto shore or if you're in a Eddy then you can stand up and walk to shore.
I do not know the details of this tragedy, and my comments are strictly educational and in response to the comments made on this thread.
My sincere condolences to family and friends.
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I was drifting the chehalis canyon with a friend, each of us had a raft. Later on in the day at a fast moving rapid part I had an oar pop out of the holder and I panicked and couldn't get it back in the holder. I started to turn sideways and got pushed right up against a huge bolder in the middle of the river. The water was raging against the side of my pontoon raft and I was stuck for a few seconds and then the entire raft just flipped. I went right under, backpack on me...fishing rod in a holder. As I went under I pushed off the raft underwater and was lucky enough to go around the rock on the side closest to shore and pull myself out of the water. The raft came ripping behind me and I was able to snag that with a free hand and pull it out. Rod broken, one oar half broken, i lost a contact lense and could only see out of one eye, scared, I was pretty hooped.
I was on and off the raft all day fishing runs and as fate would have it I had taken off my lifejacket the run before and in my haste to get going I forgot to put it back on and during all that ordeal it was resting over the back of the pontoon, how ridiculously stupid was I that day...still regret that.
I was wearing waders, belt done up tight, an Arcteryx gore-Tex jacket with the powder skirt super tight and the jacket zipped up all the way, sinch cords all tight, cuffs tight and I filled my boots up with water and that was it, clothes were soaked but I didn't fill up, I was incredibly lucky.
This happened mid January and cold out. I had to pull off the waders quickly, dump out the water, swap out my soaked shirt too a less soaked on in my bag and put everything back on and started moving to get some body heat. I wasn't in a spot of the canyon that I could just call it a day and walk back to the truck, the nightmare was just getting started. I must have sat in the same area scared for an hour, made an eyepatch, fixed the broken oar and grew some balls to get back on the pontoon and continue downriver until I could get to a spot to haul everything up and out of the canyon. Walked a bunch of kms back to my truck, couldn't get in because the keys were wet...got that sorted, drove back up and got my pontoon and drove home basically naked with a blanket with one eye. Was the shits. I haven't drifted it since last year and wear a PFD now, I should be dead my friend figures after seeing it all happen from behind...
My Condolences to the family...tragic loss
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Vancouver police marine squad has waterproof jackets with PFD built in. It's totally doable. If they have them I'm sure there's others using same application.
As in Inflatable tech?
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Condolences. This is tragic. I have fished the same section for years. It has changed alot. The bank is full of loose bolders and quite steap now thru there. Be careful out there everyone.
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As in Inflatable tech?
I will ask my friend what brand they are and get back to you.I just remember him throwing me a jacket when I went for a ride along, and asked about it.
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I was saddened to hear of this news, and it's really gotten me thinking about how lucky I've been this year. Accidents happen, and they happen extremely fast.
I would consider myself an experienced angler, and an extremely efficient/experienced wader. I would also consider myself a very strong swimmer, with a past of water sports, competitive swimming and lifeguarding. Despite all these things, and despite going nearly 6 years without any problems, I've had 2 very dicey accidents this year - neither involved wading.
The first was late November. Myself and 2 buddies on a raft. We got pushed down a chute into a massive standing wave on a rock. The boat caught the top of the rock, and the current bucked the boat off the side. The boat rolled, and threw me and a buddy 15-20 feet right out into the class 4 white water. Despite being well prepared, we both took a long swim, bounced off boulders, and got washing machined a few times before finally getting out. Luckily I eventually got to the raft swimming aggressively downstream for it. My other buddy eventually hit a run around 150 yards downriver, and was able to stand up in the slower water near the side. He got way ahead of the raft despite my second buddy who managed to stay in the raft rowing aggressively after him. Had he not been able to stand up, it could have ended quite badly.
The second was just a week ago. Kitty and I were walking a large rock wall, on a very narrow ledge. As we got around halfway across, I became uneasy (it was much more slippery than I had expected), and told her we shouldn't do it. I took another step forward to get my footing and turn around, and my fears happened before I knew what was going on. My only thought going down was to not hit my head - so I protected it. I fell around 6-8 feet before landing on my hip, and then another 5 feet into a 10 foot deep pocket in a nasty set of white water. I had to swim hard to get out of the rotating pocket that was pushing me back into the top end of the white water. Had I hit my head, that would have probably been it for me, with Kitty watching from a helpless standpoint above. Despite my extremely strong swimming skills, and a very tight wading belt, swimming in that situation was extremely difficult. I finally got to a place where I could get my feet down, and worked my way out of the water, eventually crawling to dump out the water that had gone down my waders.
This drowning happened on a river that I wouldn't consider to be dangerous compared to the places I commonly find myself in. Both of my accidents were in water very comparable, or even worse than the tamihi rapids. This is a grave reminder to myself that I was extremely lucky, and that things can take a turn for the worst anywhere, even on a river like the Vedder which I'm extremely complacent on.
Play safe out there guys! Time for me to go get myself a couple throw ropes...
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Time for me to go get myself a couple throw ropes...
I went paddle boarding two years ago and the instructor had throw ropes that were quite convenient. 70 feet rope length, less than a pound, quite compact, easy reload, and could nicely clip onto the instructor's PFD. They were probably quite high-end, a throw rope on the river is a good idea.
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Tragic and saddened to hear about this. Most sincere, heart felt condolences to the victim's family and friends...
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These stories are making me consider going old school for a pair of neoprenes...a tragic accident and sincere condolences to the family.
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I was saddened to hear of this news, and it's really gotten me thinking about how lucky I've been this year. Accidents happen, and they happen extremely fast.
I would consider myself an experienced angler, and an extremely efficient/experienced wader. I would also consider myself a very strong swimmer, with a past of water sports, competitive swimming and lifeguarding. Despite all these things, and despite going nearly 6 years without any problems, I've had 2 very dicey accidents this year - neither involved wading.
The first was late November. Myself and 2 buddies on a raft. We got pushed down a chute into a massive standing wave on a rock. The boat caught the top of the rock, and the current bucked the boat off the side. The boat rolled, and threw me and a buddy 15-20 feet right out into the class 4 white water. Despite being well prepared, we both took a long swim, bounced off boulders, and got washing machined a few times before finally getting out. Luckily I eventually got to the raft swimming aggressively downstream for it. My other buddy eventually hit a run around 150 yards downriver, and was able to stand up in the slower water near the side. He got way ahead of the raft despite my second buddy who managed to stay in the raft rowing aggressively after him. Had he not been able to stand up, it could have ended quite badly.
The second was just a week ago. Kitty and I were walking a large rock wall, on a very narrow ledge. As we got around halfway across, I became uneasy (it was much more slippery than I had expected), and told her we shouldn't do it. I took another step forward to get my footing and turn around, and my fears happened before I knew what was going on. My only thought going down was to not hit my head - so I protected it. I fell around 6-8 feet before landing on my hip, and then another 5 feet into a 10 foot deep pocket in a nasty set of white water. I had to swim hard to get out of the rotating pocket that was pushing me back into the top end of the white water. Had I hit my head, that would have probably been it for me, with Kitty watching from a helpless standpoint above. Despite my extremely strong swimming skills, and a very tight wading belt, swimming in that situation was extremely difficult. I finally got to a place where I could get my feet down, and worked my way out of the water, eventually crawling to dump out the water that had gone down my waders.
This drowning happened on a river that I wouldn't consider to be dangerous compared to the places I commonly find myself in. Both of my accidents were in water very comparable, or even worse than the tamihi rapids. This is a grave reminder to myself that I was extremely lucky, and that things can take a turn for the worst anywhere, even on a river like the Vedder which I'm extremely complacent on.
Play safe out there guys! Time for me to go get myself a couple throw ropes...
Wow dude! Where the heck are you fishing man? Sounds crazy.
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Sad story and terrible outcome. Unfortunately from what I have heard the young victim panicked when he went in the water. Not that most people wouldn't.
The waders we mostly wear today are no different than those worn 40 or more years ago. Around the time neoprene waders were becoming popular Fly Fisherman published an article comparing waders including form fitting neoprene and baggy but light latex waders in pool immersion tests. Baggy waders filled with water and made it all but impossible for test subjects to exit the pool. Neoprenes did not plus the buoyancy of neoprenes aided test subjects both in the water and exiting the pool.
Unfortunately most of us have chosen comfort (breathables) over safety.
So much depends on the circumstance when a person loses their footing and goes into the water. It's actually safer to be up to your waist. Slipping and falling head first is a owrst case scenario since the waders will have more entrapped air. It's not unknown for people to float head down, face in cold water and hyper ventilate water into their lungs - usually fatal if they cannot quickly exit or get immediate assistance.
By all means wear a belt - I usually wear two. I think inflatable vests are a good idea though I don't wear one. Once I went into deep water wearing both an old Mustang Floater coat and neoprenes. I bobbed like a cork!
Know what to do if you do fall in and if you can keep your composure; try to float on your back - head upstream and go with the current. Don't fight it. Make a plan how to get back to shore or shallow water. Try angle yourself towards shore and swim with 'snow angel' waves of your arms. Most anglers do fall in periodically. Most survive and most dunkings are trivial and inconsequential.
Be extremely carefully around fast turbulent water and particularly when rivers are in flood stage. It may be best to avoid river banks and wading in such conditions.
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Wow dude! Where the heck are you fishing man? Sounds crazy.
Vancouver Island rivers. I fish a lot of canyon type water where mistakes often come with big consequences.
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Be extremely carefully around fast turbulent water and particularly when rivers are in flood stage. It may be best to avoid river banks and wading in such conditions.
Sage advice.
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I found an article that I thought was useful to share to deal with any irrational fear that without a doubt can creep into ones mind after such an accident. It definitely helped me think rationally about that.
https://bubbleline.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/wader-safety-lets-get-it-right/
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Actually this reminds me of an event in 2014 in Poland. One of their youth national team members drowned whilst fishing high water...
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I found an article that I thought was useful to share to deal with any irrational fear that without a doubt can creep into ones mind after such an accident. It definitely helped me think rationally about that.
https://bubbleline.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/wader-safety-lets-get-it-right/
Good read.
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I was drifting the chehalis canyon with a friend, each of us had a raft. Later on in the day at a fast moving rapid part I had an oar pop out of the holder and I panicked and couldn't get it back in the holder. I started to turn sideways and got pushed right up against a huge bolder in the middle of the river. The water was raging against the side of my pontoon raft and I was stuck for a few seconds and then the entire raft just flipped. I went right under, backpack on me...fishing rod in a holder. As I went under I pushed off the raft underwater and was lucky enough to go around the rock on the side closest to shore and pull myself out of the water. The raft came ripping behind me and I was able to snag that with a free hand and pull it out. Rod broken, one oar half broken, i lost a contact lense and could only see out of one eye, scared, I was pretty hooped.
I was on and off the raft all day fishing runs and as fate would have it I had taken off my lifejacket the run before and in my haste to get going I forgot to put it back on and during all that ordeal it was resting over the back of the pontoon, how ridiculously stupid was I that day...still regret that.
I was wearing waders, belt done up tight, an Arcteryx gore-Tex jacket with the powder skirt super tight and the jacket zipped up all the way, sinch cords all tight, cuffs tight and I filled my boots up with water and that was it, clothes were soaked but I didn't fill up, I was incredibly lucky.
This happened mid January and cold out. I had to pull off the waders quickly, dump out the water, swap out my soaked shirt too a less soaked on in my bag and put everything back on and started moving to get some body heat. I wasn't in a spot of the canyon that I could just call it a day and walk back to the truck, the nightmare was just getting started. I must have sat in the same area scared for an hour, made an eyepatch, fixed the broken oar and grew some balls to get back on the pontoon and continue downriver until I could get to a spot to haul everything up and out of the canyon. Walked a bunch of kms back to my truck, couldn't get in because the keys were wet...got that sorted, drove back up and got my pontoon and drove home basically naked with a blanket with one eye. Was the shits. I haven't drifted it since last year and wear a PFD now, I should be dead my friend figures after seeing it all happen from behind...
My Condolences to the family...tragic loss
Hey Shinny and Every Day,
Here's an article I wrote on highsiding on another forum.
When drifting down rivers sometimes our craft doesn’t end up where we’ve planned. If your boat broadsides a rock, you can generally spin yourself off it quickly, but occasionally when the current is stronger it will push your craft up the rock, while the lower tube (upstream side) submerges deeper into the current, and enviably burying the lower tube and pinning the craft against the rock, causing a wrap or capsizing your craft.
To prevent this situation from occurring, you’ll need to instantaneously highside. What is highsiding? Highsiding is putting your weight on the downstream tube, this reduces weight on the upstream tube and with the tubes buoyancy it’s freed from the rivers current. Instinctively, we avoid momentum towards rocks, but in this case lean over and kiss that rock! Highsiding is effective for any obstacle, whether it’s a rock, bridge abutment, strainer, sweeper or logjam. So in that case, become a tree hugger.
Highsiding is also very effective if your craft get caught in a large hole. In holes, the downstream tube is higher and being forced upstream into the current that has a downward force on your upstream tube, potentially causing your craft to capsize. To avoid capsizing, highside onto the downstream tube, but be prepared to shift your weight as a hole can spin you very quickly, and the last place you want to be is on the upstream side of a hole. I should also add, in the case that the obstacle is a strainer(tree with multiple branches) or a logjam, spin off the obstacle is not an option. Highsiding will buy you some time to safely dismount your craft on the downstream side, onto the obstacle its self. Going under a sweeper that has adequate depth isn't likely to be fatal (providing that you're wearing a foam pfd), but going under a strainer or logjam will be.
I hope this helps
Cheers.
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My condolences. What a sad day for the young man.
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That about going under a log jam brought back some unpleasant memories. My fishing buddy back in the early 70's was rafting with friends on the Chilliwack Vedder system when the were swept into a log jam. He was wearing a like jacket but unfortunately a branch somehow slid under his life jacket and you can figure out the the rest.
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I went paddle boarding two years ago and the instructor had throw ropes that were quite convenient. 70 feet rope length, less than a pound, quite compact, easy reload, and could nicely clip onto the instructor's PFD. They were probably quite high-end, a throw rope on the river is a good idea.
Wonder if setting up throw rope stations at the bottom of dangerous runs would help especially on the Vedder. Just something that's anchored down and anyone can grab and toss in the river. You'd still need to hope that someone is close by the rope when a person falls in but it's still better odds than hoping someone randomly has a rope.
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I'd donate to that.
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The sad thing is it they would be stolen or vandalized within a week ..
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The sad thing is it they would be stolen or vandalized within a week ..
I agree.
To be effective, throwbag instruction and practice is required. The throwbag needs to be stuffed in the bag properly for it to work.
Northwater in Vancouver makes belts and throwbag if interested.
http://northwater.com/collections/rescue-belt-tow-systems/products/quickdraw-deployment-belt
http://northwater.com/collections/throw-lines
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So Sad.
This is worth a watch I thought, even though it is older. Part one of three. Hope it works, otherwise goggle it. Watch all 3.
Simms Wading Safety part 1 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pNFU1-EEqU
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The news article has been updated ..... Only 21 years old.....so sad.
He was wearing waders , and had wading belt done up too, also had a friend with him at the time. He was not wearing a PFD though, that may have helped.
Condolences to the family.
http://www.theprogress.com/news/368862291.html
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This is a vest a buddy of mine wears. There's lots of places in the lower mainland that carry it (or used to). I know not everyone wants to take a PFD with them so this would be perfect
https://mustangsurvival.com//recreational/miv-10?division=recreation
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This is a vest a buddy of mine wears. There's lots of places in the lower mainland that carry it (or used to). I know not everyone wants to take a PFD with them so this would be perfect
https://mustangsurvival.com//recreational/miv-10?division=recreation
Q and A from their website ...
Why are your Inflatable fishing vests not approved?
The MD1165 (Deluxe Inflatable Fisherman Vest) and the MIV-10 (Inflatable Fisherman Vest) do not carry approvals from
either Transport Canada or Canadian Coast Guard.
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From that same site ...
"The Fisherman's Vests while not approved, will provide the required buoyancy, when inflated, to keep the user afloat. The Inflatable Fisherman's Vests offer 16 lbs of buoyancy when inflated compared to 15.5 lbs of buoyancy in traditional, inherently buoyant, personal floatation devices. The standard in Canada for approved vests or suspenders type inflatable PFD's is 150 Newtons or nearly 34 lbs.
Our full line of Inflatable PFD's (excluding the Fisherman's Vests) are approved under UL 1180 with Canadian Addendum. These units offer 35 lbs of buoyancy when inflated."
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So sad story indeed.
Just a few years ago there was an older couple from Britain I believe that were tourists & the man fell into the Chilliwack R & was pinned under some logs. The poor wife could not do a thing.
Airplanes rivers oceans highways & bad weather on & on will always take lives.
Murphy law.
We do not have 9 lives.
Mind you bet some of you as myself could have easily been killed 10x but somehow we are still here.
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I knew Graeme well.
The last message he sent me was a picture of the tackle he was picking up: clusters, spinners, floats, a Bent Rods jig and a Gibbs croc spoon. He absolutely loved to be out on the river.
He was a genuine young man with a heart of gold - he was active in his community and volunteered his time to coach kids. We truly lost a gem.
I've abstained from making posts anywhere else, but I know well enough that Graeme would want people to learn from this. He was a very fit young man, an experienced angler and a strong swimmer - if this could happen to him, it could happen to anyone. Please, if you're on the river, mind yourself and wear a PFD.
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Very sad to read all this, thank you for sharing a little bit of info about Graeme. My condolences for friends and family.
I've had my own experiences and "knock on wood" have never been swept away current, I've had my close calls like dunking myself or slipping and banging a knee against a rock and tree.
I know of other friends who have been VERY lucky when they have been carried away down river, scary as hell cause from what they tell me its basically a total loss of control and you are pretty much at the mercy of the river.
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The family of the young man has posted an ad looking for his belonging which was lost during the accident so it can be returned to them. The description is very generic, perhaps a waist pack? Anyway it has been two weeks so someone must have picked it up unless it is still in the water.
https://www.facebook.com/fishingwithrod/photos/a.377539272711.161655.78768862711/10153497473937712/?type=3&theater
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12512437_10153497473937712_2293813926902772548_n.jpg?oh=c9cab709df12b17e9ed3f9493ed90593&oe=57580312)
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Oh man Rod, your last post really touched me. I felt the tears well up. I can't imagine and hope to never experience the pain and sorrow. I have a 19 year old who is an Electrician and every day I count my blessing when I hear his voice after work. My condolences to the family. This is a tough one.
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Item is recovered and returned to the family now.
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Good to hear. A tiny bit of closure can mean a lot for those effected.