Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Humpy on September 04, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
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I decided to pick up an Islander Steelheader Centerpin Reel but I am having a hard time choosing a rod.
It will be used for all species of Salmon and Steelhead, in the Vedder, Chehalis, Stave, etc.
I want to spend under $200. I've narrowed my list down to...
Shimano Clarus 13'0" 8-12lb 1/8-3/4oz Moderate Light
Shimano Convergence 10'6"
Fenwick HMX Salmon/Steelhead 10'6"
Trophy XL 10" 8-15lb
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I think 13 feet is overkill, I find transport and storage of anything over 11 feet a pain but that's just me. Of the other three rods I would say they are all about the same quality. I would go with the trophy, they have a great warranty and are local so turnaround is quick.
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I think 13 feet is overkill, I find transport and storage of anything over 11 feet a pain but that's just me. Of the other three rods I would say they are all about the same quality. I would go with the trophy, they have a great warranty and are local so turnaround is quick.
Thanks, would 10" be fine, I thought maybe it was too short? Which Action and Power should I be looking for in the trophy xl?
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One thing I found with the entry level pin rods is that many, including my original Convergence purchase, have screw down reel holders.
Which I have found to be most irritating after an hour or two of fishing. Your finger feels like it gets rubbed raw by the exposed threads. Try to find a rod with a reel seat that has the threaded ring that screws from the bottom up. It makes a big difference. Convergence although a good entry level rod could have been so much better if this one small feature was changed. Oh...and 10 1/2 feet is plenty of length.
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One thing I found with the entry level pin rods is that many, including my original Convergence purchase, have screw down reel holders.
Which I have found to be most irritating after an hour or two of fishing. Your finger feels like it gets rubbed raw by the exposed threads. Try to find a rod with a reel seat that has the threaded ring that screws from the bottom up. It makes a big difference. Convergence although a good entry level rod could have been so much better if this one small feature was changed. Oh...and 10 1/2 feet is plenty of length.
Thanks, I'll take a look at all of them in person before I make the decision.
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I decided to pick up an Islander Steelheader Centerpin Reel but I am having a hard time choosing a rod.
It will be used for all species of Salmon and Steelhead, in the Vedder, Chehalis, Stave, etc.
I want to spend under $200. I've narrowed my list down to...
Shimano Clarus 13'0" 8-12lb 1/8-3/4oz Moderate Light
Shimano Convergence 10'6"
Fenwick HMX Salmon/Steelhead 10'6"
Trophy XL 10" 8-15lb
If you going to use it for all species of salmon like(big springs , chums etc).
Shimano Clarus 13'0" 8-12lb 1/8-3/4oz Moderate Light and
Trophy XL 10" 8-15lb is a bit on the light side.
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If you going to use it for all species of salmon like(big springs , chums etc).
Shimano Clarus 13'0" 8-12lb 1/8-3/4oz Moderate Light and
Trophy XL 10" 8-15lb is a bit on the light side.
I will be using it for springs and chum, is a 10-20lb line rating ideal? What power and action?
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I have 3 of those HMX's in the 10-20 and love them. Although I do like the older version over the newer ones.
Also have used that Trophy rod for coho in smaller rivers and is perfect for coho and steelhead. Wouldn't use it for targeting chums or springs but they are fine once in a while as a by-catch.
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I will be using it for springs and chum, is a 10-20lb line rating ideal? What power and action?
Good choice, medium to medium heavy. Slow action or Fast action will be up to your liking.
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Thanks guys, I will pick up a Fenwick HMX.
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Thanks guys, I will pick up a Fenwick HMX.
Shimano is a soft action rod and Fenwick is fast action. Try both if you can before you make up your decision. Good luck .
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I have the Amundsen 8-17, 10"6". Found it to be an excellent entry level CP rod, and a much better rod than the Fenwick. I have an extra one if you're interested in it.
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streamside heritage salmon rod is a beauty i dunno about the warranty as i havent broken one yet only had it for a year
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Love my HMX for the pin, also use them with moochers on the rigger.
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That Lamiglass BC series CP rod sure is nice, I think its near 250ish. It s an all around species rod. Maybe you could find a used one if the new price is to high.
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The Trophy Titan CP rod is also in and around that 250 mark depending on where you get it from. I just got a 3113 and am looking forward to breaking it in, since my dad took back his custom Sage 3113lb :o
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I have the Amundsen 8-17, 10"6". Found it to be an excellent entry level CP rod, and a much better rod than the Fenwick. I have an extra one if you're interested in it.
I'd be interested, could you send me a pm with the details and a price. Thanks
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Another nice rod in the same price range as the lami is the Loomis GL2. I have an 8-12 moderate action that I use as my backup rod. Fished it hard for a full year while I was picking parts for my last build. The only downside is the tip section is single foot eyelets so if you bushwhack, there's a higher risk of damaging them.
If you can save another 50-100$$ to get you into a 250-300$$ rod, you will be much happier. There's some nice rods come up in the buy sell sometimes.
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The Trophy Titan CP rod is also in and around that 250 mark depending on where you get it from. I just got a 3113 and am looking forward to breaking it in, since my dad took back his custom Sage 3113lb :o
Love love love my 3113lb. It makes me giggle just thinking about it. I bet more guys prefer the MB but that soft butt section....
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If you can save another 50-100$$ to get you into a 250-300$$ rod, you will be much happier. There's some nice rods come up in the buy sell sometimes.
Spot on. You will save more $ in the long run if you squirrel away a little bit more to get a used 3106 or 3113. Check CL or the buy n sell here.
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Was looking at the G Loomis GL2, like the rod, which model should I be looking for? None of them say Centerpin? Where can I purchase the 3113?
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Was looking at the G Loomis GL2, like the rod, which model should I be looking for? None of them say Centerpin? Where can I purchase the 3113?
I believe the Loomis I have is the 1264. I'm on my days in so can't check for a couple more weeks. It's moderate action med power 10'6 8-12lb test.
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I just think 8-12lb might be too light for fishing chum.
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Hey Humpy.
Check this out !!
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=34792.0
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I have contacted Rod about that talon but I am awaiting a response.
Edit: Someone beat me to it. :(
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Too bad, That is a good rod (3 power ) and it fit your budget.
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I just think 8-12lb might be too light for fishing chum.
My daily coho rod is a GL3 1263 rated 8-12 (I think) and it can be bit light if you are going to specifically target chum.
I have caught many chum on that rod and it’s more or less fine, but the bigger ones can take you for a bit of a ride and sometimes you want just a little more backbone than that rod can provide.
In my very humble opinion, if you mostly target coho with the incidental chum or spring, then 8-12lb is very nice and no need go heavier. If you are regularly into the bigger species then definitely go up a step or two in line rating as that would not be the best tool for the job.
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Thanks guys.
How's this rod?
11749-01 SAR 1363 BC GL2 11' 4" C 2 12 - 20 3/8 - 2 Fast Med-Heavy $320.00
Its a G. Loomis SAR1363BC, its a mooching style rod it says, does that mean it will work on centerpin too?
I will be targeting all species of salmon and steelhead, will this heavier rod(12-20) be fine for coho?
I am worried that this rod will be too heavy for coho, so it will be a bigger fish only rod?
Somebody is selling this G Loomis Rod, in like new condition, used twice for $190.
Should I pull the trigger?
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Thanks guys.
How's this rod?
11749-01 SAR 1363 BC GL2 11' 4" C 2 12 - 20 3/8 - 2 Fast Med-Heavy $320.00
Its a G. Loomis SAR1363BC, its a mooching style rod it says, does that mean it will work on centerpin too?
I will be targeting all species of salmon and steelhead, will this heavier rod(12-20) be fine for coho?
I am worried that this rod will be too heavy for coho, so it will be a bigger fish only rod?
Somebody is selling this G Loomis Rod, in like new condition, used twice for $190.
Should I pull the trigger?
I have this rod and I like it. I use it for springs and chum. It's a bit heavy for coho but as an overall rod it's good and that's a pretty good price. Considering the difference in size between all salmon, finding a perfect rod is really tough to do.
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It says on the G Loomis website that this is a Mooching Rod, can it be used on the centerpin?
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It says on the G Loomis website that this is a Mooching Rod, can it be used on the centerpin?
Yeah, I use it as a centerpin.
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I just sold tjat same g loomis on this site .way to heavy and fast for centerpin rod in my opinion.i personaly love the 8-12lb range rods.as i use a 3113lb and a3113mb.and also use a rainshadow 13ft 8-12 for coho and steelhead and love to fish with more noodle of a rod on centerpin.
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I just sold tjat same g loomis on this site .way to heavy and fast for centerpin rod in my opinion.i personaly love the 8-12lb range rods.as i use a 3113lb and a3113mb.and also use a rainshadow 13ft 8-12 for coho and steelhead and love to fish with more noodle of a rod on centerpin.
For big spings and chum, I'm going to need more of a backbone and less of a noodle like rod. I think 12-20 is needed for targeting all species of salmon.
I will invest in a lighter rod later down the road for coho(maybe a clarus).
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Ya good call.thats how i did it also.it is a skookum rod ill say that .i pulled some big fish out of fast water with the loomis.
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What do you mean by skookum rod?
There is no perfect rod, I will most likely purchase that loomis and buy a light one later for smaller salmon.
Is it fine to put that mooching rod on a centerpin?
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Yes works great for pin.skookum means big and solid!an yes it is hard to find the perfect rod .ive used a lot of rods over the years and i wld say the nicest all around rod ive ever fished would be the sage 3113 mb.
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thanks for the help, how much do those sage rods go for? Where would be the best place to buy it?
Is it worth spending more and buying a sage?
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U would never regret buying a sage drift rod there amazing .light,sensitive and have a lot of backbone when needed at the same time nice and flexible for an awsome fight.ive had 5 sage rods built and love every one.there really pricey though.roughly around 600$ custom built.
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Almost all my rods were built by Brian Babcock at sea run fly and tackle in coquitlam.but there are many builders on this site that are great builders also.
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That's out of my price range($200). Since it is my first centerpin I don't want to spend a lot, if I like it I will upgrade later down the road.
I think the Loomis is the best option in my price range? What do you think?
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Yes i agree.for the price it sounds like what your after!!
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thanks
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Ohnestly thats where the personal preferenc is going to come into play.i like a longer rod like the 3113 and i like a more flexible rod.so my favorite is my 3113lb.and for a light rod it still has some backbone when needed.i cought a 12 lb spring a month ago in the upper vedder and pulled that fish out of very heavy fast deep water . I had my hands full fursure but it was fun as hell and i landed it.if that was a 25 pounder in heavy water with that rod i probably wld have hard time moving the fish with that rod.
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If you love the sport there's no price you can put on good gear, always look out for a deal cause you never know!
I love my Sage 3113LB and my 13' GLoomis GLX but for over all I would agree the Sage 3113M or MB covers a wide range. I have a custom Sage 3106LB that rarely sees the river now but you just don't know when you might need a backup.
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I will most likely purchase that loomis and buy a light one later for smaller salmon.
Good rods but poor warranty .
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Both g Loomis and Lamiglas are good rods., but poor warranty !!!!
A lot of good rods is within your budget. Just take your time . Good luck
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Good rods but poor warranty .
Thanks for all the help everyone, I managed to get the 11" Talon CP rod.
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Awsome im sure will love it!