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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ambassador on November 08, 2013, 11:57:26 AM
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So I have never been fishing on the Vedder, but am pretty keen to go exploring Saturday morning first thing. Not looking for anyone's secret spot (unless you are awesome and willing to message me some hints), but more the areas that I should avoid. I don't mind being around other fishermen, just want to steer clear of any dodgy or s#%tshow spots. I've heard both stellar and sad things about this river, so just looking to have a good experience there.
I've had plenty of peaceful days fishing lately, but not a whole lot of catching. Hoping to change that with a couple nice ones for the smoker.
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Avoid: Keith Wilson bridge, train bridge area, tamihi (big no no), stone slab, gravel pit, basically anywhere where there's a cluster of parked vehicles, lol
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Agreed with KWB, Tamahi, gravel pit, and train bridge. Most of the spots that aren't gong shows people aren't going to post them on here. People do have success at these spots, however, its not fishing to me. I would suggest finding a spot on the side of the road and get ready to put some miles on your boots. I have probably walked that entire river to find the spots that i like. Some of them i know no one will be at because its kinda of sketchy getting into them slopes walking water crossing etc.
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Agree with the other guys. Avoid the mass amount of parked cars, and get ready to put miles on those boots. Again, if crossing "sketchy water" like moe said, be careful. Don't wanna see on the news about another person being swept away. Tight line!
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Since fishing has slowed down considerably as it usually does during this time of the year, crowd should not be a huge concern and it is in fact a pretty pleasant river to fish. The above mentioned spots can be busy, but can also be very productive. By using the right methods, you can successfully pick up quality fish by fishing below the crowd.
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Since fishing has slowed down considerably as it usually does during this time of the year, crowd should not be a huge concern and it is in fact a pretty pleasant river to fish. The above mentioned spots can be busy, but can also be very productive. By using the right methods, you can successfully pick up quality fish by fishing below the crowd.
Make sure if you fish below someone you don't low hole them though. Aggravates the hell out of me. Start at the top of the run working your way down, then a fence post comes along a plunks down right below me. Don't be a low holer, make sure you either ask or move way down if you see someone working a run from top to bottom. Or start above them and follow.
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That's not what I meant by fishing below someone... I'm talking about way below... ;) The crowded spots are crowded because deeper spots with obstructions ahead of them tend to hold more fish, which are often spooked and unwilling to bite. By fishing further down from the crowd, you have less fish to work with but have a bigger chance to connect with some quality fish.
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That's not what I meant by fishing below someone... I'm talking about way below... ;) The crowded spots are crowded because deeper spots with obstructions ahead of them tend to hold more fish, which are often spooked and unwilling to bite. By fishing further down from the crowd, you have less fish to work with but have a bigger chance to connect with some quality fish.
Yup i know you wouldn't i seen you talking about it before, just wanted to clarify. A lot of people never know about little ethics like that, and they don't get discussed very often thought i would bring it up.
I didn't mean to accuse you of anything..
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Thanks for the info, guys. I'm gonna head out there first thing and hunt for a good spot. Not afraid of some hiking and will be sure not to low-hole anyone (and hopefully not get swept away)! Just picked up a sweet new HMX rod today that I am hoping to break in with some nice salmon.
If you see a big guy with an orange and white cap, that's me. Come say hello.
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I never heard of "low holing'' . Some runs on the river are large and fish hold in certain spots. You are fishing the top end and some one who knows that the fish hold at the bottom end comes along.Is that person going come up to you and say "" oh by the way the fish hold down at the bottom of this run". That person is going to go where the fish are and if there is a fish there you will know to. If some one comes in on a run I am fishing and shows me where the fish hold then if we meet again in same run where do you think I am going to be? Some people walk up the river so I guess if you walk in above that person your are "high holing" .Absurd. You want to be a meat fisherman than join the crowds.
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I don't like crowding people either, and my first year.. I didn't catch many fish. There is usually a reason why certain spots are popular. There are fish there. Read what Rod just said carefully.
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avoid tamahi at all costs still a high traffic area.
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not all of tamahi is bad, Just a bunch of bad people using bad techniques behind boulders. there are a few spots with some nice drifts in and around that area. avoid the cars and explore and you will be rewarded. cover more ground and that should help your chance of hook ups. I was out recently and kept switching presentation and gear until something worked. amazing how picky those fish can be.
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I never heard of "low holing'' . Some runs on the river are large and fish hold in certain spots. You are fishing the top end and some one who knows that the fish hold at the bottom end comes along.Is that person going come up to you and say "" oh by the way the fish hold down at the bottom of this run". That person is going to go where the fish are and if there is a fish there you will know to. If some one comes in on a run I am fishing and shows me where the fish hold then if we meet again in same run where do you think I am going to be? Some people walk up the river so I guess if you walk in above that person your are "high holing" .Absurd. You want to be a meat fisherman than join the crowds.
Low holing while fishing for hatchery salmon on an Urban River? Doesn't exist. Basically, people come at first light or before, plunk themselves on a spot and proceed to spend a few hours there. No such thing as "working" a run when it comes to salmon season. Good luck trying to tell the rest of the anglers downstream from you to wait and let you fish first while you work through the run. For steelhead, its different. Some meatholes have fence posters, but for most areas of the river, fishing steelhead is more of a hunt and you need cover as much water as you can. That is where low-holing becomes an issue.
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Low holing while fishing for hatchery salmon on an Urban River? Doesn't exist. Basically, people come at first light or before, plunk themselves on a spot and proceed to spend a few hours there. No such thing as "working" a run when it comes to salmon season. Good luck trying to tell the rest of the anglers downstream from you to wait and let you fish first while you work through the run. For steelhead, its different. Some meatholes have fence posters, but for most areas of the river, fishing steelhead is more of a hunt and you need cover as much water as you can. That is where low-holing becomes an issue.
I have trouble calling the vedder an urban river. Kamloops has a higher population than chilliwack, but nobody is calling the Thompson urban. There is totally such a thing as working a run, just not in the crowded spots where there is 40 people shoulder to shoulder.
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I have trouble calling the vedder an urban river. Kamloops has a higher population than chilliwack, but nobody is calling the Thompson urban. There is totally such a thing as working a run, just not in the crowded spots where there is 40 people shoulder to shoulder.
How many times have you fished the Vedder?
You know you don't have to comment on every fricken thread right? Half of the stuff you post have no substance at all. You're either just repeating what others are saying or posting about nothing that's even close to the truth. stop being a post whore, sick of clicking threads only to see your posts about nthing.
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How many times have you fished the Vedder?
You know you don't have to comment on every fricken thread right? Half of the stuff you post have no substance at all. You're either just repeating what others are saying or posting about nothing that's even close to the truth. stop being a post whore, sick of clicking threads only to see your posts about nthing.
Just had a look at your previous posts. In 11 out of your 17 most recent posts (that's 65%) you are either ripping into somebody, or being sarcastic. (and it's more of the same on the second and third pages) For fun, I bet I could change a few words in your above quoted post and have it describe you. :)
It must be a burden for you to carry to always be so right. (yes, that was sarcasm. I'm sorry...) Lighten up dude, and take some happy pills. The hostility will kill ya.
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I have trouble calling the vedder an urban river. Kamloops has a higher population than chilliwack, but nobody is calling the Thompson urban. There is totally such a thing as working a run, just not in the crowded spots where there is 40 people shoulder to shoulder.
You can't compare the Thompson to the Vedder. Only a small part of the Thompson runs through Kamloops while most of the Fishable part of the Chilliwack Vedder is located within city limits. Sure, Chilliwack has a lower population but you are forgetting that most of the lower mainland is within less than an hours drive of the river and that to me makes it more of an urban river.
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Make sure if you fish below someone you don't low hole them though. Aggravates the hell out of me. Start at the top of the run working your way down, then a fence post comes along a plunks down right below me. Don't be a low holer, make sure you either ask or move way down if you see someone working a run from top to bottom. Or start above them and follow.
Great tip for steelhead season.... But unfortunately it's still salmon season
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Low holing while fishing for hatchery salmon on an Urban River? Doesn't exist. Basically, people come at first light or before, plunk themselves on a spot and proceed to spend a few hours there. No such thing as "working" a run when it comes to salmon season. Good luck trying to tell the rest of the anglers downstream from you to wait and let you fish first while you work through the run. For steelhead, its different. Some meatholes have fence posters, but for most areas of the river, fishing steelhead is more of a hunt and you need cover as much water as you can. That is where low-holing becomes an issue.
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Low holing during steelhead season is extremely annoying and done by everyone I have been low holed by just as many fly guys as I have gear guys. It annoys me more when another fly guy stands there and watches me working my way down only to step in below me !! >:(
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I got accused low holing a fellow on the Squamish during steelhead season. I saw him at the head of a very long run and stayed well clear, starting at least 400 yards below him whereupon he walked down and gave me his opinion. I understand the annoyance when somebody barges into next to you but you can't own the river just because you got there a few minutes earlier.
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Why not just fish another system?
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Low holing during steelhead season is extremely annoying and done by everyone I have been low holed by just as many fly guys as I have gear guys. It annoys me more when another fly guy stands there and watches me working my way down only to step in below me !! >:(
Not when im fishing bait it doesn't! ;D
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I got accused low holing a fellow on the Squamish during steelhead season. I saw him at the head of a very long run and stayed well clear, starting at least 400 yards below him whereupon he walked down and gave me his opinion. I understand the annoyance when somebody barges into next to you but you can't own the river just because you got there a few minutes earlier.
Why not just fish another system?
Shouldn't have to worry about people like that. It's like having people tell you can't or shouldn't walk on the sidewalk in front of their house. You have as much right to that river as they do, especially if you are that far away from them
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And just like what happened to me today..be prepared for it to happen to you! I was into my 5th cast after finding a nice spot to myself today. 5th cast, float goes down, I set the hook, and bring a wild one in. As I am releasing the fish, I look up to see that, not one, not two, but 4 people had jumped into my spot and already had begun casting out...needless to say I went back over there and told them to please get out, and they moved about 10 feet over.....so unfortunately, if you take the time to find a spot for yourself, and people see you catching fish, be prepared to have them come up and fish right next to you.... I ended up leaving the area to go fish again by myself somewhere else (caught my limit) and on my way out, made sure to walk by them. No fish on shore for them....guess it's not all "the spot" hey and mostly what you're using and how you're doing it. ;)
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Low holing during steelhead season is extremely annoying and done by everyone I have been low holed by just as many fly guys as I have gear guys. It annoys me more when another fly guy stands there and watches me working my way down only to step in below me !! >:(
No! Say it isn't so!
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More people fish the vedder than the Thompson. It is a urban river. It draws from a population of millions ,Vancouver, surrey, Washington. Abbotsford chilliwack , etc. far more than kamloops.
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Great tip for steelhead season.... But unfortunately it's still salmon season
yes you are right at most spots of the river. There are a few spots that you can find on the vedder that still work that way in salmon season. They are just few and far between. Steelie season it is more important though
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Not when im fishing bait it doesn't! ;D
you can fish bait all you want behind me. keep this in mind though - I caught this while working through a run between 5 bait guys !!!
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/P4140018.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/P4140018.jpg.html)
and for the accusing folk, its a hatchery fish that was dispatched immediately after a couple pics which is why its on the rocks
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Thanks to everyone for your tips. I ended up having a great day exploring and fishing the Vedder on Saturday. Got to the river before 7 and it was a pretty quiet other than a pile of cars stacked up around the Tamahi area - which I was not about to hit after the comments. Did some hiking and found a nice spot higher up the river with no one on it. Only saw a few people for the first half of the day - no worries about low-holing! While I didn't land any, I learned a fair bit about the river and how (not) to fish it that day. Fairly green to float fishing and learned that it is not so easy with a spinning reel setup. Next time I'll bring my fly rod in hopes I can catch a nice one like Hooks!
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you can fish bait all you want behind me. keep this in mind though - I caught this while working through a run between 5 bait guys !!!
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/P4140018.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/P4140018.jpg.html)
and for the accusing folk, its a hatchery fish that was dispatched immediately after a couple pics which is why its on the rocks
sweet reel!!!! (and fish) HOOK!
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Thank god the coho are just about finished for the year in the vedder. Steelhead separate the snaggers from the real fishermen.
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True dat. But This time of year is also nice, the fish thin out, the fisherman thin out and you can finally enjoy the river to yourself.
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True dat. But This time of year is also nice, the fish thin out, the fisherman thin out and you can finally enjoy the river to yourself.
I have had the river to myself for months, it's just not Vedder River.
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you can fish bait all you want behind me. keep this in mind though - I caught this while working through a run between 5 bait guys !!!
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/P4140018.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/P4140018.jpg.html)
Wow I have no confidence in fishing for coho with a swung fly. I may have to re-evaluate after seeing this picture!
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How exactly does this picture give you confidence in fly fishing for coho?
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How exactly does this picture give you confidence in fly fishing for coho?
Most likely due to the fact that there are many more coho than steelhead, and many would say its much easier to catch a coho on the fly than a Winter steel
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The crowded spots are easy to fish.
I just come out of the bush yelling Bear! Bear! and within about 1 minute I have my choice of spots to fish.
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The crowded spots are easy to fish.
I just come out of the bush yelling Bear! Bear! and within about 1 minute I have my choice of spots to fish.
Hahha laughed out loud on that one lol. A good tactic hahah.
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Most likely due to the fact that there are many more coho than steelhead, and many would say its much easier to catch a coho on the fly than a Winter steel
More likely he thought it was a coho.
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Swinging flies for coho IMO is one of the least effective methods for fishing them. I have caught very few the past few years swinging (and I try it nearly every day out). In fact, I think I may be able to count on one hand how many I have caught on the swing.
Then like a fast strip, or if you want to swing, you have to add a twitch in the swing. I achieve this generally by stripping in once every 10 or so seconds and then letting the line slide back out of my fingers the next 10 seconds. I believe this gives the fly a flare in the water, followed my a quick movement (if you're using a swung fly like rabbit or marabou).
Steelhead, as hook has pictures, love to hit swung flies. I find they don't like a whole lot of movement in most cases, they seem to like a slow methodical approach.
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Ya my bad. I didn't look at the fish in the picture very closely and, given the time of year it is currently, I thought we were talking about salmon.
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Ya my bad. I didn't look at the fish in the picture very closely and, given the time of year it is currently, I thought we were talking about salmon.
Iv heard that before.... ::)