Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: jacklam999 on October 08, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
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I have tried fishing in the summer in capilano with no success, while i see some fishing report that people are having good result recently. I have mainly fish in lake and lower mainland fraser river,so i have dont have any experience on the freshwater river. I have done some research that people say wool and fly fishing had yeild great sucess. Just want to hear from you guys what method of fishing you like the most there with great chance of getting bite? spoon? spinner? or fly.
Thank you very much
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Why not try all 3 and see for yourself, don't beat yourself up because your not catching fish. Put in a litte more time and try multiple styles in one outing and your should eventually find your answer and a fish hopefully.
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The cap is a pretty tricky system. If your lower tide affects it a lot. I find it really to be a 'first light' fishery. Small spoon or spinner under a float is usually pretty good.
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I find fishing spoons at first light in an uncrowded spot is the most effective for me. I have hooked fish later in the day but not as easily as first light. I never had much luck with roe or roe sacs or wool on that system but I've seen other people doing well with those. Those fish can be very spooky and just won't bite at all when the sun is bright and the water is clear.
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Fish will get easier to catch once the bait ban lifts
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I had a big spring on tonight but it snapped my line... Just like the 2 before it. I was using that fake rubber roe at dusk, it only took 4 casts to get the depth right and bang. It flashed its side just before it struck, it was an impressive fish. Greatest feeling ever when it's on, worst feeling when it's gone. Time to get rid of the 12 lb mono. I'm thinking something really strong like fire line for the main line and maybe 20lb mono for the leader. Chum season is almost here too so I'm going to need the strength. Maybe I'll get lucky again next week and get another one on, who knows.
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I had a big spring on tonight but it snapped my line... Just like the 2 before it. I was using that fake rubber roe at dusk, it only took 4 casts to get the depth right and bang. It flashed its side just before it struck, it was an impressive fish. Greatest feeling ever when it's on, worst feeling when it's gone. Time to get rid of the 12 lb mono. I'm thinking something really strong like fire line for the main line and maybe 20lb mono for the leader. Chum season is almost here too so I'm going to need the strength. Maybe I'll get lucky again next week and get another one on, who knows.
12lb too small for springs on the cap especially out in the fast water
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20 pound leader? I use max of 12 in the summer for red springs, 6-8 usually for coho and 10 when I'm hooking a lot of springs in the fall. Ill go to 15 if I'm jig fishing for chum because they are not leader shy and I do not want to lose my jigs. Ive landed 15 pound chinooks on 6-8 pound test, no need to go over 12. A little bit of side pressure and get the fish off balance and you are fine. All just comes with time on the water. On the cap I almost always fish 6 if the water is low and 8 when its above a 4.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll try again with 15 lb leader. The thing with these springs is they hit and run hard, fast and long, I've actually never landed one. Tough to put the side pressure on when the fish is 100ft away after 5 seconds. So frustrating!
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll try again with 15 lb leader. The thing with these springs is they hit and run hard, fast and long, I've actually never landed one. Tough to put the side pressure on when the fish is 100ft away after 5 seconds. So frustrating!
yeah i use 15lb fluorocarbon for the cap this time of year. maybe set your drag a little tighter it shouldn't get that far so quick. also worth noting these chinooks can get very big as they are harrison white springs. you never know if you are going to get a 10lb chinook or 30lb which is why i dont fish light leader you just never know.
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I had a big spring on tonight but it snapped my line... Just like the 2 before it. I was using that fake rubber roe at dusk, it only took 4 casts to get the depth right and bang. It flashed its side just before it struck, it was an impressive fish. Greatest feeling ever when it's on, worst feeling when it's gone. Time to get rid of the 12 lb mono. I'm thinking something really strong like fire line for the main line and maybe 20lb mono for the leader. Chum season is almost here too so I'm going to need the strength. Maybe I'll get lucky again next week and get another one on, who knows.
that must be a fun fight, which pool u fished at?
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that must be a fun fight, which pool u fished at?
Yep all 10 seconds of it. One of the ones near hwy 1 bridge.
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i was always thinking going there as well, but i cant find any place that is near to park my car, u know any location that can park near there?
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i was always thinking going there as well, but i cant find any place that is near to park my car, u know any location that can park near there?
West side you can park under the bridge east side you can park in the tennis club gravel lot off capilano rd.
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thank you, i was thinking of parking at the tennis club, but i though its private and need permittion to park there. By the way, have you fish at richmond bc for coho? I tried its hard to find a good spot to fish for coho in richmond bc, not like pinks, they arent all over the place, and i havetried triangle road with no success because of the strong current
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yeah i use 15lb fluorocarbon for the cap this time of year. maybe set your drag a little tighter it shouldn't get that far so quick. also worth noting these chinooks can get very big as they are harrison white springs. you never know if you are going to get a 10lb chinook or 30lb which is why i dont fish light leader you just never know.
After losing two springs and a big steelhead on 10lb mainline and 12lb leader I upgraded to 20lb. I find on the cap this is especially important because of the lack of space. Since then I landed a solid 10lb++ model. Having a top end reel with 20lb of drag really helps in the cap, combined with a quality rod u can put them where you want them!
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Sorry forgot to add flurocarbon leader HAS to be used in the cap. They spook easy.
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After losing two springs and a big steelhead on 10lb mainline and 12lb leader I upgraded to 20lb. I find on the cap this is especially important because of the lack of space. Since then I landed a solid 10lb++ model. Having a top end reel with 20lb of drag really helps in the cap, combined with a quality rod u can put them where you want them!
Why is your leader heavier than your mainline? Should be the other way around. Are you using 10lb mainline with 20lb leader now?
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so much roe all over the rocks and ive seen people fishing with bait, called dfo in the last week and nothing so frustrating
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The bait ban is frustrating, hatchery supplemented system, it's like putting a bait ban on a stocked lake, been using blades and gooey bobs and been getting a few fish but rather be using roe.
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Rules are rules so play nice people. I've been doing fine win imitation bait. They are cap fish though so they only strike around dawn or dusk otherwise they're shut tighter than clams.
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Why is your leader heavier than your mainline? Should be the other way around. Are you using 10lb mainline with 20lb leader now?
Is this a legitimate question or a troll? The leader is where most of the force is when fighting fish, especially if you lose tightness and get sudden jolts. It's also the piece of line most likely to get caught on a rock and get snapped off. Heavy leader = less dropped fish.
When fishing for Giant Trevally, I use 60lb mainline and 100lb leader. When fishing for big Snapper, 20lb mainline and 40lb leader. This is pretty much the standard across most fisheries around the world. Obviously there are exceptions, like when you are trying to entice a bite on a picky fishery, so you size down your leader...but as far as fighting fish goes, having a heavier leader allows you to be much more aggressive. It should also be taken into consideration that when I talk about mainline it is strictly braid, which outperforms its test rating by quite a bit. Apart from the obvious fact that lighter leader = potentially more bites, I can't see any performance benefit from doing this.
Funnily enough this is something I have been asked 2-3 times since moving here. Not sure I quite understand the reasoning behind the thought process, maybe you can enlighten me?
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The bait ban is frustrating, hatchery supplemented system, it's like putting a bait ban on a stocked lake, been using blades and gooey bobs and been getting a few fish but rather be using roe.
I like it when there is a bait ban on the Cap. It's already getting too crowded even with the bait ban. Lots of the anglers I've seen that only use roe will disappear to rivers like the Chilliwack/Vedder, etc.
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Is this a legitimate question or a troll? The leader is where most of the force is when fighting fish, especially if you lose tightness and get sudden jolts. It's also the piece of line most likely to get caught on a rock and get snapped off. Heavy leader = less dropped fish.
When fishing for Giant Trevally, I use 60lb mainline and 100lb leader. When fishing for big Snapper, 20lb mainline and 40lb leader. This is pretty much the standard across most fisheries around the world. Obviously there are exceptions, like when you are trying to entice a bite on a picky fishery, so you size down your leader...but as far as fighting fish goes, having a heavier leader allows you to be much more aggressive. It should also be taken into consideration that when I talk about mainline it is strictly braid, which outperforms its test rating by quite a bit. Apart from the obvious fact that lighter leader = potentially more bites, I can't see any performance benefit from doing this.
Funnily enough this is something I have been asked 2-3 times since moving here. Not sure I quite understand the reasoning behind the thought process, maybe you can enlighten me?
It's legit. For the most part people fish heavy mainline so they don't lose their tackle. For fly fishing you don't wanna fish heavier leader because you run the the risk of losing your expensive line.
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Chinook are not notorious for making huge runs when hooked. They are known for sulking on the bottom and being a problem to move or bring up. The only time I have ever seen chinook make huge fast runs is when they get snagged or are flossed. Seeing as how you guys have mentioned losing multiple fish due to them making big runs I would have to guess they were snagged or flossed. 10 lb or 12 lb leader is more than enough to land chinook in the cap or vedder. If you think about it the fish may weigh 30 lbs out of the water, however when it is in the water it floats and does not weigh 30 lbs.
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Is this a legitimate question or a troll? The leader is where most of the force is when fighting fish, especially if you lose tightness and get sudden jolts. It's also the piece of line most likely to get caught on a rock and get snapped off. Heavy leader = less dropped fish.
When fishing for Giant Trevally, I use 60lb mainline and 100lb leader. When fishing for big Snapper, 20lb mainline and 40lb leader. This is pretty much the standard across most fisheries around the world. Obviously there are exceptions, like when you are trying to entice a bite on a picky fishery, so you size down your leader...but as far as fighting fish goes, having a heavier leader allows you to be much more aggressive. It should also be taken into consideration that when I talk about mainline it is strictly braid, which outperforms its test rating by quite a bit. Apart from the obvious fact that lighter leader = potentially more bites, I can't see any performance benefit from doing this.
Funnily enough this is something I have been asked 2-3 times since moving here. Not sure I quite understand the reasoning behind the thought process, maybe you can enlighten me?
Most people here use a heavier mainline than leader. Imagine if you are using one of those $8 floats and your leader is heavier than your main line. The line that will break first is most likely your mainline and it's quite easy to lose your expensive float and a lot of main line.
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Chinook are not notorious for making huge runs when hooked. They are known for sulking on the bottom and being a problem to move or bring up. The only time I have ever seen chinook make huge fast runs is when they get snagged or are flossed. Seeing as how you guys have mentioned losing multiple fish due to them making big runs I would have to guess they were snagged or flossed. 10 lb or 12 lb leader is more than enough to land chinook in the cap or vedder. If you think about it the fish may weigh 30 lbs out of the water, however when it is in the water it floats and does not weigh 30 lbs.
When my float goes down and stays down I set the hook. Hard to tell whether it bit or was flossed I guess but I was using a short leader reasonable depth and just floating along.
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Don't like losing floats and don't like re-rigging so I keep my leaders 5 pounds lighter that my main.
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When my float goes down and stays down I set the hook. Hard to tell whether it bit or was flossed I guess but I was using a short leader reasonable depth and just floating along.
Not trying to single you out. But for example at the run under the hwy the fish would stack up, especially during low water. So as your drift goes through the mass of the fish more than likely the hook gently hooks a fin. The float goes down, you set the hook and then all of a sudden the fish panics.
Does the float go down gently or is it a hard take? I would try fishing a bit shallower so the fish has to commit more to the bite. You will end up with a better hook set and better hook placement.
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If the breaking 12lb line was the same one used to fish for pinks aka salt water it's more than likely degraded so make sure your line is fresh
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The line that will break first is most likely your mainline and it's quite easy to lose your expensive float and a lot of main line.
It's also a massive pain in the rear when someone left a monster nest of braid/mainline at the bottom of the river and you drift into it.
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Is this a legitimate question or a troll? The leader is where most of the force is when fighting fish, especially if you lose tightness and get sudden jolts. It's also the piece of line most likely to get caught on a rock and get snapped off. Heavy leader = less dropped fish.
When fishing for Giant Trevally, I use 60lb mainline and 100lb leader. When fishing for big Snapper, 20lb mainline and 40lb leader. This is pretty much the standard across most fisheries around the world. Obviously there are exceptions, like when you are trying to entice a bite on a picky fishery, so you size down your leader...but as far as fighting fish goes, having a heavier leader allows you to be much more aggressive. It should also be taken into consideration that when I talk about mainline it is strictly braid, which outperforms its test rating by quite a bit. Apart from the obvious fact that lighter leader = potentially more bites, I can't see any performance benefit from doing this.
Funnily enough this is something I have been asked 2-3 times since moving here. Not sure I quite understand the reasoning behind the thought process, maybe you can enlighten me?
We'll I believe the thought process is simple: when playing a fish, the force is exerted on the whole line, not just the end (leader). The weakest point of the line is going to be the weakest knot and the thinnest line. If your main line is lighter than your leader, and we are going to take into account your claim that your braid outperforms the rating to which it was tested(not sure how it manages to do that). Therefore, if your mainline is rated 10 pounds (but actually performs to 12lbs) and your leader is rated 20 pounds and the knots tying each are equal strength, and the fish on the hook applies 15 pounds of force then the main line is likely the one that will break (usually at the knot) whereby you lose your hook, 20 pound leader, and likely any other hardware attached below that mainline knot, such as pencil lead or an expensive float. The only reason I can see for using a heavier leader is when the mainline exceeds the weight stress needs but you are worried about the fish wearing out the leader (eg: pike)-
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Chinook are not notorious for making huge runs when hooked. They are known for sulking on the bottom and being a problem to move or bring up. The only time I have ever seen chinook make huge fast runs is when they get snagged or are flossed. Seeing as how you guys have mentioned losing multiple fish due to them making big runs I would have to guess they were snagged or flossed. 10 lb or 12 lb leader is more than enough to land chinook in the cap or vedder. If you think about it the fish may weigh 30 lbs out of the water, however when it is in the water it floats and does not weigh 30 lbs.
Everyone's experience is different. This year in the Cap I have had 2 big springs (18 and 25+) go on multiple long runs. Both were fairly caught. Both were long fights where they held for long periods of time but when they pointed downstream they took off.
My fishing buddy had one that blew a pool, he chased it down only to have go back up the rapids to the original pool. He landed it and it was fairly caught. However this was the only time I have ever seen a fish in the Cap leave a pool (hint hint you don't need really strong leaders). And yes - there are two pools in the Cap where this can happen.
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I hooked a fish that had yellow belly today. The hook popped out before I could land him. Any ideas what it might be? I don't think it was a pink nor a tomato coho. First thing I thought was carp but that can't be on the Cap.
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I hooked a fish that had yellow belly today. The hook popped out before I could land him. Any ideas what it might be? I don't think it was a pink nor a tomato coho. First thing I thought was carp but that can't be on the Cap.
i saw some guys catch a decent size fish last week... didnt see it for myself but i overheard them say it was a chum. maybe?
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i saw some guys catch a decent size fish last week... didnt see it for myself but i overheard them say it was a chum. maybe?
It might have been a chum. Though chums tend to have a greenish skin color in fresh water. Some cohos were already tomato colored.
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My fishing buddy had one that blew a pool, he chased it down only to have go back up the rapids to the original pool. He landed it and it was fairly caught. However this was the only time I have ever seen a fish in the Cap leave a pool (hint hint you don't need really strong leaders). And yes - there are two pools in the Cap where this can happen.
I had this happen to me today but I lost it when it went over the rapids. I had my drag a bit too light and couldn't pull it back fast enough from the edge, lesson learned.
I caught a five pound hatchery coho so I didn't feel too bad. :)