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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: DragonSpeed on September 20, 2013, 11:18:06 AM
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I was out on a nice little stretch of the Vedder, just below Lickman Rd yesterday. While we were fishing I observed the following:
Fly fisherman - cast out and then as it was drifting down he stripped in quite quickly. Unsurprisingly, he was into pinks quite regularly. I couldn't see very well, but I'd be willing to bet that many weren't quite in the mouth :(
Float fisherman - cast, drift.... reef at end of drift... Unsurprisingly he was into pinks quite regularly, in the side and on the belly.
Bottom bouncer with 3-4 ft leader - regularly into pinks... mostly belly and tail.
Sad. Just sad.
I would say that only 30% of people that came and went as we fished actually fished with a method that enticed the fish to BITE. Urgh.
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Where is lick man road?
Is it by the train brigde ? Not exactly at the bridge but where you drive down ? Thanks
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Where is lick man road?
Is it by the train brigde ? Not exactly at the bridge but where you drive down ? Thanks
http://bit.ly/15cxbRp
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Still can't find it
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I was out on a nice little stretch of the Vedder, just below Lickman Rd yesterday. While we were fishing I observed the following:
Fly fisherman - cast out and then as it was drifting down he stripped in quite quickly. Unsurprisingly, he was into pinks quite regularly. I couldn't see very well, but I'd be willing to bet that many weren't quite in the mouth :(
Float fisherman - cast, drift.... reef at end of drift... Unsurprisingly he was into pinks quite regularly, in the side and on the belly.
Bottom bouncer with 3-4 ft leader - regularly into pinks... mostly belly and tail.
Sad. Just sad.
I would say that only 30% of people that came and went as we fished actually fished with a method that enticed the fish to BITE. Urgh.
Not surprising. Feather and fur flingers can floss with the best of them...I will now don my metal jacket. :o
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Nothing wrong with stripping the fly in quickly. Pinks do like to chase. However, look at where the person is casting, and what they are casting. If they are using heavy sink tips, casting across or up stream then it is suspect. I cast down stream and strip in almost parallel to the shore when targeting pinks. It worked very well for me on the squamish this year. Out of over 30 fish landed, only 3 were snagged ( inevitable you will snag at some point with that many fish in the river).
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Float fisherman - cast, drift.... reef at end of drift... Unsurprisingly he was into pinks quite regularly, in the side and on the belly.
You mean he just held on to the float at the end of the drift? I saw lots of people doing that too on other parts of the Vedder but I wasn't sure if that's proper technique. Does it matter if the water is slack versus moving?
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Nothing wrong with stripping the fly in quickly. Pinks do like to chase. However, look at where the person is casting, and what they are casting. If they are using heavy sink tips, casting across or up stream then it is suspect. I cast down stream and strip in almost parallel to the shore when targeting pinks. It worked very well for me on the squamish this year. Out of over 30 fish landed, only 3 were snagged ( inevitable you will snag at some point with that many fish in the river).
upstream, stripping all the way through the drift - fast. 2-3 foot strips, with at least sinking line... I can see and understand your way.. his way... Not so much. :(
You mean he just held on to the float at the end of the drift? I saw lots of people doing that too on other parts of the Vedder but I wasn't sure if that's proper technique. Does it matter if the water is slack versus moving?
No, but he would hold it a bit a the end and then rip up the rod. causing the hook to rib up into a fish, just because it was NEAR the hook. At the end of the drift, simply reel in your line and start again... VERY, VERY rarely will a fish see a piece of wool (simulated egg) suspended in a running current and say "Hey - that looks like food... It makes perfect sense for it to be not moving in a river..." ::)
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Does it matter if the water is slack versus moving?
You can't really DRIFT slack water.... no drift.
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No, but he would hold it a bit a the end and then rip up the rod. causing the hook to rib up into a fish, just because it was NEAR the hook. At the end of the drift, simply reel in your line and start again... VERY, VERY rarely will a fish see a piece of wool (simulated egg) suspended in a running current and say "Hey - that looks like food... It makes perfect sense for it to be not moving in a river..." ::)
Ahh, I see people holding on a bit at the end of the drift in slow moving water. I didn't see them try to rip it at the end of every drift. Still lots of people were hooking the sides of the fish though.
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I strip my line quickly I'm not trying to snag a fish I just want to re cast lol I like casting flies
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I was out on a nice little stretch of the Vedder, just below Lickman Rd yesterday. While we were fishing I observed the following:
Fly fisherman - cast out and then as it was drifting down he stripped in quite quickly. Unsurprisingly, he was into pinks quite regularly. I couldn't see very well, but I'd be willing to bet that many weren't quite in the mouth :(
Float fisherman - cast, drift.... reef at end of drift... Unsurprisingly he was into pinks quite regularly, in the side and on the belly.
Bottom bouncer with 3-4 ft leader - regularly into pinks... mostly belly and tail.
Sad. Just sad.
I would say that only 30% of people that came and went as we fished actually fished with a method that enticed the fish to BITE. Urgh.
Sounds like my morning last week :(
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Don't despair.
Soon the pinks will die off and be gone...and with them MOST of the beekos that line our river banks when the catching is easy.
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Ahh, I see people holding on a bit at the end of the drift in slow moving water. I didn't see them try to rip it at the end of every drift. Still lots of people were hooking the sides of the fish though.
That happens if their leader is too long and/or float/weight is too long... when your main line tightens up, the rest of your gear swings across the river, raking across any resting fish. A reef when you feel the bump will likely hook a fish in side.
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Don't despair.
Soon the pinks will die off and be gone...and with them MOST of the beekos that line our river banks when the catching is easy.
Sadly, I probably won't get to get out much when the REAL fishing starts... hence my trip out to hammer on a few innocent pinks.
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Around same area last Sunday with Vid cam on a tripod, video'd floatfishing for pinks and not one snagged but some really close to being gut hooked !
I know what you mean though as I witnessed the same things around me but really feels good out fishing flyguys! Funny though but watching the video over you could hear someone yelling "Hey, can I have that one?" I was there to C&R so I had my earphones in listening to tunes so I was not paying attention to anything else.
What really pisses me off though are the guys that continue to snag then drag the fish way out of water to carefully remove the hook without touching the fish only to kick it back into the river and yet they are wearing waders.
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I kept releasing the bottom snagger's fish to make sure he wasn't planning on keeping them.
He got one in the mouth area at one point and kept this male that could have been a SERVING PLATTER, never mind dinner plate! Ewwww.
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RIPPPPP....RIPPPP....RIPPPP
Probably the most annoying sound on the river...I hate to say it, but i've lost a lot of patience with people who fish in this manner and I always ask them why they need to Rip at the end of each drift...in my books they're intending to snag fish and should always be called out.
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Ya same I don't like people who drag the fish all the way up
And I caught some weird fish that's goldish looks like a sucker I don't know what it was but one guy said don't release it back leave it on shore I release it tho there was people who left it on the rocks that's something I don't agree with
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I also do not care who bottom bounces and I have nothing against it
I am against people yanking the rods back every 10 secs that's something I don't agree
Honestly im not trying to argue but there are many people who are against bottom bouncing / flossing
People who have big leaders when they are float fishing is no diffrent it's floossing I seen many people have a floater but with big leaders
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RIPPPPP....RIPPPP....RIPPPP
Probably the most annoying sound on the river...I hate to say it, but i've lost a lot of patience with people who fish in this manner and I always ask them why they need to Rip at the end of each drift...in my books they're intending to snag fish and should always be called out.
I generally ask them as well... "why the yank at the drift?" and they say "I felt a fish." I then politely point out that the river current pulling on their float at the end of EVERY drift is NOT a fish... They mumble and move further away :)
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Honestly im not trying to argue but there are many people who are against bottom bouncing / flossing
People who have big leaders when they are float fishing is no diffrent it's floossing I seen many people have a floater but with big leaders
You can bottom bounce with a 1ft leader and catch fish legitimately. Longer leader = flossing no matter if you're bouncing or floating. Not necessary.
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I will be honest I do bottom bounce but I don't yank every 5 secs that's where the most fouled hook fish come from you just got to know the difference between the rocks and a bite
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KAW
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wont yank my line until I see my float dip or wobble like a nibble. I agree with the long drifting rippers, annoying as can be
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Fly fisherman - cast out and then as it was drifting down he stripped in quite quickly. Unsurprisingly, he was into pinks quite regularly. I couldn't see very well, but I'd be willing to bet that many weren't quite in the mouth :(
Your post is mis-titled as this is not an observation.
FWIW I landed over 30 this morning on the Vedder - they were all taking fish. This included a few on a popper plus I was able to watch the fish chase and take on the fly on many occasions.
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Oh, the ones that came in hump first/tail first were pretty easy to see... fin hooked etc just not as much. I definitely have seen some fly guys fishing well, and correctly, and I certainly don't accuse any general group of bad fishing practices. Bad fishermen span the spectrum, unfortunately.
Sure would be fun to hit them with a popper! Nice work.
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I need to cut down my fly leader
As I was stripping I get one but I don't even pull back when stripping but it's a foul !!!!!!!!
I don't know what's wrong unless there was lots of
Fish bumping on or I dunno