Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Humpy on August 15, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
-
Check this out:
Interesting, Non-tidal and Tidal Waters closed to Salmon Fishing.
Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Subject: FN0738-RECREATIONAL - Salmon - Area 29 - Tidal Waters of the Fraser River - Closed times for all Salmon fishing - August 15, 2013
Effective 23:59 hours Thursday, August 15, 2013 until further notice, fishing
for any salmon species is not permitted in the tidal waters of the Fraser River
(Subareas 29-11 through 29-17).
The tidal waters of the Fraser River are those waters downstream of the CPR
bridge at Mission to the Mouth of the Fraser River and are described in further
detail on the inside cover of the 2013-2015 Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide or
online at:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/fraser-eng.html
Current run size estimates of Fraser River Summer Run sockeye salmon combined
with record water temperatures in the Fraser River have resulted in no
allowable harvest. The Department's priorities are to ensure that there is
sufficient sockeye returning to the spawning grounds. The Department is
continuing to manage fisheries to minimize sockeye impacts and provide priority
access to First Nations' fishing for food, social and ceremonial purposes.
Recreational fishing opportunities for trout, steelhead and sturgeon and other
non-salmon species remain open in these areas.
Recreational fishing opportunities in the Fraser River for pink and chum salmon
will be announced at a later date.
Variation Order: 2013-372
This reflects a change to the BC Freshwater Salmon Supplement. The on-line
version of this guide will be updated within 24 hours of this notice, please
browse:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/index-eng.html
Notes:
Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in tidal and non-tidal
waters of British Columbia.
Anglers are requested to release any hatchery marked sockeye. These fish are
hatchery raised sockeye and part of a recovery program designed to increase the
numbers of Cultus Lake sockeye.
The term "hatchery marked" means a fish that has a healed scar in place of the
adipose fin.
Sport anglers are encouraged to participate in the Salmon Sport Head Recovery
program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped chinook and
coho salmon. Recovery of coded-wire tags provides critical information for
coast-wide stock assessment. Contact the Salmon Sport Head Recovery Program
toll free at (866) 483-9994 for further information.
Rockfish Conservation Areas that are currently in effect and are closed to all
fin fishing. Descriptions of these closures, and other recreational fishing
information, can be found on the Internet at:
www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish
Did you witness suspicious fishing activity or a violation? If so, please call
the Fisheries and Ocean Canada 24-hour toll free Observe, Record, Report line
at (800) 465-4336.
For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at
1-(866)431-FISH (3474).
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact DFO Lower Fraser at (604)666-8266.
Fisheries and Oceans Canada Operations Center - FN0738
Sent August 15, 2013 at 09:11
Visit us on the Web at http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
-
How do you fish for Steelhead in the tidal Fraser and not fish for salmon?
-
Not sure, I'm sure the choice of hardware of bait would be similar? Or am I wrong? Never fishing for Steelhead in the Tidal Portion.
-
Sadly that's the grey area everyone with no conscience will probably use so they can continue to fish the Fraser.
-
It will open up again for Pinks; so don't worry. Hopefully they will clearly identify whats an appropriate fishing method for this.
-
i dont understand, why wait so late? they knew that the water was low and warm a month ago.
-
i dont understand, why wait so late? they knew that the water was low and warm a month ago.
My guess is they saw the escapement numbers and thought they were decent enough and would keep going up. They instead went the other way and now they are panicking.
My hope is there are a bunch stacked up out in the salt just waiting for a good couple days of rain and then it will be gang busters flying up the river and they get up there before anything can open back up.
-
i think my wife might be responsible for this. she new where i was heading Saturday morning!
-
I guess it is time to touch up all my beat up pink spoons/buzz bombs and wait for the opening 8). Darn, my kids never learned not to drag the lures again the rock.
-
so as of tomorrow the ENTIRE fraser river is closed to salmon fishing ?
Holy Christ people the end is near !!!!
Never did I think I would see the day when that big mud slick got fully closed :'(
-
DFO must think there are BB on tidal Fraser too to close the whole darn thing, isn't it? ;D
Don't they also close the open ocean part of Area 29? Who had been doing BB there? The fact is lower than expected return and high temperature worry DFO officials. Did they close FN too? If not, why? Aren't conservation more important than anything else now? Every one should be off the water for the fish man. There are pinks to catch in Squamish and later the Fraser. So leave the sockeye alone, rods and nets in all.
-
how many socks get caught om the tidal lol. I can undestand the non-tidal but really. Yet the FN have been fishing the whole time. And now whos watching the river cause the only reason most netters got busted was because of the true recreational anglers
-
how many socks get caught om the tidal lol. I can undestand the non-tidal but really. Yet the FN have been fishing the whole time. And now whos watching the river cause the only reason most netters got busted was because of the true recreational anglers
This would be a huge concern. Hopefully a plane or heliocopter all the way up would detect anybody fishing that shouldn't.
To answer the other questions, there should be no nets in the water. The FN should be closed down completely except for chilliwack lake. If there are nets in the river that anybody sees, they should be reported immediately. Given there will be fewer people on the river though, this won't be as effective.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River)
-
They would have to send the helicopter out on a 24 hour basis as in my experience the beach seine netting problem in the Chilliwack area is a 24 hour a day endeavour with most of the illegal part of it done under the cover of darkness. I've seen them sweep through grassy and other bars at 2 am when I used to camp out on the Fraser. The fish don't have a chance.
-
They would have to send the helicopter out on a 24 hour basis as in my experience the beach seine netting problem in the Chilliwack area is a 24 hour a day endeavour with most of the illegal part of it done under the cover of darkness. I've seen them sweep through grassy and other bars at 2 am when I used to camp out on the Fraser. The fish don't have a chance.
Yeah, to be effective I know it would have to be 24 hours. And random because if it is regular fly overs they will just time their fishing for between fly overs. I know they have used night vision goggles before for stuff like this. If the sockeye are important enough, they should do that. Anybody camping or seen along the river should be checked.
Do it for a week or so and nail anybody caught to the wall, charging them with everything possible under the sun and I bet word gets out and people comply.
-
Sad thing is there appears as there is no enforcement! Has anyone seen the jet boats with officers in them this year?
Watched two expensive fn jet boats yesterday park in plain view of other recreation anglers and proceed to BB and retain sockeye.
Why, because they can. Who is going to stop them. And we shrugged at their behaviour and their reaction was to shrug back.
Why don't we confront them? Sorry, have already had one rifle a few years ago fired to scare us away.
Good luck. Spend a few nights in the fraser canyon where law abiding fn don't have their nets in during
the day. Watch the gong show as darkness comes on.( Other people?) use these same nets for there own use without permission from
law abiding fn that own the nets. Night goggles and huge fines are great, but in our revolving door justice system?
It's a sad thing that has happened to our precious Fraser.
-
Sad thing is there appears as there is no enforcement! Has anyone seen the jet boats with officers in them this year?
Watched two expensive fn jet boats yesterday park in plain view of other recreation anglers and proceed to BB and retain sockeye.
Why, because they can. Who is going to stop them. And we shrugged at their behaviour and their reaction was to shrug back.
Why don't we confront them? Sorry, have already had one rifle a few years ago fired to scare us away.
Good luck. Spend a few nights in the fraser canyon where law abiding fn don't have their nets in during
the day. Watch the gong show as darkness comes on.( Other people?) use these same nets for there own use without permission from
law abiding fn that own the nets. Night goggles and huge fines are great, but in our revolving door justice system?
It's a sad thing that has happened to our precious Fraser.
When I was up there the first week it was open, we got stopped by an officer at Island 22 as she was waiting for the boat to be ready to go out.
A couple days later, a DFO jet came to where we were fishing, stopped at one of the many boats around, had them pull up anchor and beach the boat and spent a good 45 minutes to an hour discussing and calling stuff in. After that, both boats left, DFO downstream, the other up. They only checked one boat so could have been friends or something.
-
Does this amend the Tidal Fraser closure?
Category(s): RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject: FN0741-RECREATIONAL - Salmon- South Coast marine waters- Closed time for sockeye salmon fishing- Correction to FN0739
Amendment to FN0739: The previous version of this notice did not include Area
20, Area 28 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-10. The full corrected version of the
notice follows.
Effective 23:59 hours Thursday, August 15, 2013 until further notice, fishing
for sockeye salmon is not permitted in the following waters:
Areas 11 to 21, 24 to 28, 121, 123 to 127 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-10.
Current run size estimates of Fraser River Summer Run sockeye salmon combined
with record water temperatures in the Fraser River have resulted in no
allowable harvest available. The Department's priorities are to ensure that
there is sufficient sockeye returning to the spawning grounds. The Department
is continuing to manage fisheries to minimize sockeye impacts and provide
priority access to First Nations' fishing for food, social and ceremonial
purposes.
Anglers fishing for other salmon species in areas that remain open are required
to take every measure possible to ensure that their fishing activities does not
impact sockeye salmon.
Variation Order: 2013-372.
-
Does this amend the Tidal Fraser closure?
Category(s): RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject: FN0741-RECREATIONAL - Salmon- South Coast marine waters- Closed time for sockeye salmon fishing- Correction to FN0739
Amendment to FN0739: The previous version of this notice did not include Area
20, Area 28 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-10. The full corrected version of the
notice follows.
Effective 23:59 hours Thursday, August 15, 2013 until further notice, fishing
for sockeye salmon is not permitted in the following waters:
Areas 11 to 21, 24 to 28, 121, 123 to 127 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-10.
Current run size estimates of Fraser River Summer Run sockeye salmon combined
with record water temperatures in the Fraser River have resulted in no
allowable harvest available. The Department's priorities are to ensure that
there is sufficient sockeye returning to the spawning grounds. The Department
is continuing to manage fisheries to minimize sockeye impacts and provide
priority access to First Nations' fishing for food, social and ceremonial
purposes.
Anglers fishing for other salmon species in areas that remain open are required
to take every measure possible to ensure that their fishing activities does not
impact sockeye salmon.
Variation Order: 2013-372.
No it doesn't.
-
That is the South Coast Marine Waters.
-
usally most nets while river is closed are under water secured to shore. Couple years back a boat flipped due to under water net causing the 3 occupents over board and a flipped boat. I forget what this netting is called but the RCMP couldnt prove the responsibility even though it was on the Harrison(Stolo) and tied to shore. I guess it was from unstream :o