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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: VAGAbond on August 04, 2013, 08:53:55 PM
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High and muddy. Visibility about an inch. Mamquam and Cheakamus not much better. No fish from the rivers for me today.
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We managed one in that area, Went to Furry Creek and got a couple but it was very slow
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Was also at the Squamish River today. Agreed, water was fast and had poor visibility. None for me. Saw 3 fish taken the whole time I was there. Beautiful day though to be out!
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River still blown :( Saw a few fish taken in the hour or two we were there.
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the Mamquam is running dirty ?? ???
I don't think I have ever seen that river run dirty in all the years I have been fishing Squamish
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the Mamquam is running dirty ?? ???
Yes. Visibility was 6in or less downstream of the rail bridge.
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high, muddy and lots of sunken logs/trees/branches. Fish around but you have to work for them
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Anybody know why the fishing boundary on Mamquam River is CN Railway Bridge just for Pinks, but not for the other species?
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I have always laughed at using the rail bridge as the boundary. Only gives you a couple hundred feet of river to retain fish in that system. Im assuming they do that because there isn't another obvious boundary marker upstream until you get too far upstream where the fish will infact be on their reds already. that's just my assumption or they are just trying to limit people from crossing through peoples yards, parking on residential streets.......etc. They know for a fact that the amount of people gets ridiculous there on pink years, the reason perhaps why the boundary extends further up for other species is because the human impact is lessened considerably
Only way to know exactly what the reasons are is to get ahold of someone in fisheries. They might not even know though either
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I can't believe that dyke is closed. Pissed me off.
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Yes it sucks the dyke is closed off but we are fisherman/women and a little walk to get to our spot(s) is really nothing we aren't used to anyways. I didn't read the whole deal with why its closed, I do however hope it gets opened back up because I thought it was a public use dyke which sort of means access shouldn't be blocked, doesn't it ?
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Anybody know why the fishing boundary on Mamquam River is CN Railway Bridge just for Pinks, but not for the other species?
The boundary is for retention only. You are certainly permitted to fish for all species including pink salmon above the railway bridge, just cannot retain them.
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The fenced part of the dyke is private property. I think, vandalism on the parked trailers are mostly the reason why the owner fenced it off. There are ways around it though if you want to access the inflow of the Cheakamus. There are plenty of other good spots on the Squamish though.
Rivers are still running high and silty because of the heat up high and glacial run off. No point fishing in mid-day heat anyway.
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The boundary is for retention only. You are certainly permitted to fish for all species including pink salmon above the railway bridge, just cannot retain them.
Thanks for the clarification. It certainly gives catch and release anglers a lot of room.
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Yes. Visibility was 6in or less downstream of the rail bridge.
During the last cycle the Mamquam ran brown for a couple of weeks during the peak of the return. In fact, the Squamish was the much cleaner of the two systems. You basically had to bump the fish's face with your fly....that's if you didn't floss it first. Just have to use patterns with a little more flash and pizazz!
A pic from the last cycle:
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/mastercaster07/P8240026.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mastercaster07/media/P8240026.jpg.html)
You definitely have to work for them now in conditions like that but it's doable...still managed to hook a dozen last Friday in these conditions and surprising not a one was flossed.....got half of them on the retrieve to recast. How those fish can see in that MURK is truly amazing!
My Pink Pizazz:
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/mastercaster07/IMGP1408_zps94c2b475.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mastercaster07/media/IMGP1408_zps94c2b475.jpg.html)
I'll be happy with a foot of viz tomorrow....anymore than that and you may see me dancing....but NOT likely~
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Anybody know why the fishing boundary on Mamquam River is CN Railway Bridge just for Pinks, but not for the other species?
The train bridge was chosen by the local Sport Fish Advisory Board as a good boundary due to quality of fish concerns as the run progresses. Above the train bridge fish will be spawning in large numbers starting in late August and this regulation was implemented to discourage people from fishing them off of the redds. Still happens but at least people will not be legally allowed to kill the fish caught in this area. Was a tough call as the fish are clean in the early part of the return but change fairly quickly once they have started to stage prespawn. This regulation was implemented to preserve the quality of the fishery and to try and limit the gong show.
The Mamquam is running dirty as Ring Creek is putting out lots of silt. That watershed is very unstable in the upper reaches as well as having lots of glacial till. Now that the winter snow is gone for the most part and the glaciers have receded the melt water runs thru the silt and it ends up in the river. When it cools down up top it will clean up again unless we get a good rain.
Have lived in Squamish for close to 30 years and I have seen this happen a few times before. Is worse on years when the snow pack is low or gone.
Forgot to add that the Dyke is closed by the District of Squamish as they do not want vechile access on the dykes. Evidently they are concerned about the integrity of the dyke system in Squamish. The only Dyke that you can drive on is the one down to the wind sufers site at the end of the Spit.
One nice thing about reduced vechile access is the reduced amount of garbage at the Mamquam bar this year. I guess it's just too far to pack all of your junk in if you can't drive it close.
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The Mamquam is running dirty as Ring Creek is putting out lots of silt. That watershed is very unstable in the upper reaches as well as having lots of glacial till. Now that the winter snow is gone for the most part and the glaciers have receded the melt water runs thru the silt and it ends up in the river. When it cools down up top it will clean up again unless we get a good rain.
Have lived in Squamish for close to 30 years and I have seen this happen a few times before. Is worse on years when the snow pack is low or gone.
Any idea about the clarity of the Cheakimus below Cheakeye Cr.?
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OR above Cheekeye creek ;)
HOOK - I will be camping above the Cheekeye which is why I ask ;)
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OR above Cheekeye creek ;)
HOOK - I will be camping above the Cheekeye which is why I ask ;)
The Cheakamus silt comes from primarily two sources. Culliton Creek and Cheekeye River. Both of these streams drain Mt. Garibaldi in the park ( Mt. Garibaldi is the big mountain you see when you enter Squamish and is a volcano) so they along with Ring Creek on the Mamquam drain thru volcanic soil as well as glacial till. Add water and you get the water conditions you see alot of durring the summer.
Drove over the Cheakamus today and it is fuggly right now. The Mamquam is better, it at least has a bit of green in it now.
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Thanks BKK
guess I will be driving the several km's every morning to the fishing spot. I was hoping for fishing closer to camp also but its not looking good, oh well
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This regulation was implemented to preserve the quality of the fishery and to try and limit the gong show
I don't understand the logic of forcing everybody onto one little stretch of river 'to limit the gong show.' It seems to me that will have the exact opposite effect. Giving fishers as much room as possible would do more to 'limit the gong show' IMHO.
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Your right. Giving more access would be better but the Mamquam has fish spawning very close to the mouth and this reg was implemented more to try and reduce people fishing extremely poor quality fish off of the redds. If you want more access, all of the Squamish up to the 9 Mile powerline crossing as well as the Cheakmaus are open for retention and they have lighter amounts of people. The down side is the fish quality go's south fairly quickly the farther up the watershed you go.
In regard to the Mamquam and quality issues, just so you know, the first pinks have started spawning as we speak. A impeccable source was telling me that he observed the first spawning fish of the year in Mashiter Creek, a Mamquam tributary. This is early. Just reinforced the reason why the boundary was put in place.
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Forgot to add that the Dyke is closed by the District of Squamish as they do not want vechile access on the dykes. Evidently they are concerned about the integrity of the dyke system in Squamish. The only Dyke that you can drive on is the one down to the wind sufers site at the end of the Spit.
One nice thing about reduced vechile access is the reduced amount of garbage at the Mamquam bar this year. I guess it's just too far to pack all of your junk in if you can't drive it close.
That does make sense.