Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: casinoJim on June 02, 2004, 08:48:07 AM
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I have a neighbour whos hubby works in the Food inspection agency (Canada).
He wont allow her to bring home salmon (from Safeway)due to the excessive amount of fire retardent found in the salmon.
Apparently, the chemical is coming down the Columbia originating from the Okanagen fires last summer.
Now he says the levels are way too high... and this stuff is very toxic.
Does any one have any info on this subject? Any opinions??
CJ.
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Hell I thought I was just getting better with the BBQ, ;D
I thought that that report was more directed to bottom fish, Stergeon,or is this a new-ish report?
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Well apparently it hasent even reached the "report" stage... this is what the insiders of the inspection agency are doing.
CJ.
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Thanks for the heads up
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"I have a neighbour whos hubby works in the Food inspection agency (Canada)."
OK following you so far.
"He wont allow her to bring home salmon (from Safeway) due to the excessive amount of fire retardent found in the salmon"
What kind of Salmon-Farmed or Wild?
Fire retardant?
"Apparently, the chemical is coming down the Columbia originating from the Okanagen fires last summer."
If that's the case then why use 'Toxins in The Fraser' as your subject line-the Columbia River is hundreds and hundreds of miles away in another drainage altogether-are you aware of that?
"Now he says the levels are way too high... and this stuff is very toxic."
I wouldn't drink the stuff for sure but I don't take coffee either.
"Does any one have any info on this subject? Any opinions??"
I'd say you are repeating garbled baseless rumours on a subject you have no knowledge of.
Q-How are Fire Retardants from fires in the Okanagan polluting the Fraser?
A-They aren't.
'If' Fire Retardants used in some Fraser drainage have found their way into the river they aren't contaminating Salmon people are now catching to take home and eat because those fish have only been in the river for a few days at most.
Are you aware that there is presently no Commercial Fishery on the Fraser-how can people be buying Fraser fish in Safeway?
Also Wild Fish for sale @ Safeway-if they indeed have any-are being taken in offshore fisheries -they come from Alaska or WCVI-open ocean Salmon that haven't seen fresh water for 3 or 4 years.
I suggest you brush up on your geography and don't believe what housewives tell you about Salmon. ::)
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I can't think of a single Okanagan river that flows into the Fraser. I think they all flow south toward the U.S. I am also not sure of how many (if any) rivers from the Kelowna area that flows into the Columbia within B.C. Since the Columbia river does not drain into the Fraser river I am not sure what you are getting at.
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There are no water ways from Kelowna to the Fraser. The McLure?Barrier. Fire could do waht you say, however, the fire retartant is not a chemical soup perse. It's actually fertalizer with a red die so the bommers can see where they dropped it. I would be extreamly supprized that people would be allowed to live anywhere close to this stuff if it were as harmfull as your neighbour says. I think someone is pulling your leg, or, you are a non-fish person that is posting this info to stop people from fishing. Shame on you if you are.
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1) Thought this might be the place to get the dope on this fire retardent issue... thanks ;D
2) Hey Sam rough day?? bud you sound bitter... lighten up eh ... I thought it is a good thing to ask questions. :-*
3)"or, you are a non-fish person that is posting this info to stop people from fishing. Shame on you if you are." Gruman ::) ::) ::) Your just weird! I eat mega salmon every year so I'm not one of those" ya non fish persons
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2) Hey Sam rough day?? bud you sound bitter... lighten up eh ... I thought it is a good thing to ask questions. :-*
Sam's our resident curmudgeon. Great advice, but a bit of an unhappy outlook on life ::)
We love him anyway :D
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McLure/Barriere fire could affect the Fraser, but that was not mentioned in the original post.
I don't know what it is, but I have noticed that some of the posts in recent months do not really contribute in any way to good discussion on fishing. It seems some members are here posting silly tidbits to simply ramp up the number of their posts to garner "senior" member status. I think the forum has really gone down hill with this type of activity. I used to enjoy reading the posts quite a lot, but not so much in the last while.
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I have a neighbour whos hubby works in the Food inspection agency (Canada).
He wont allow her to bring home salmon (from Safeway)due to the excessive amount of fire retardent found in the salmon.
Apparently, the chemical is coming down the Columbia originating from the Okanagen fires last summer.
Now he says the levels are way too high... and this stuff is very toxic.
Does any one have any info on this subject? Any opinions??
CJ.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/185566_salmon10.html
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PBDE's were found in wild chinook.
The chemicals, PBDE's, or polybrominated diphenyl ethers, are used to reduce the spread of fire in an array of plastic and foam products in homes and offices, including mattresses, bedding, upholstered furniture, building materials, televisions, computers and other electronic equipment.
It doesn't look like PBDE's were used to fight wildfires.
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Ya it said it dosen't know how the Pbde's leach out of products...
Now I am worried about feeding the lids their canned salmon.... damn.
CJ
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McLure/Barriere fire could affect the Fraser, but that was not mentioned in the original post.
I don't know what it is, but I have noticed that some of the posts in recent months do not really contribute in any way to good discussion on fishing. It seems some members are here posting silly tidbits to simply ramp up the number of their posts to garner "senior" member status. I think the forum has really gone down hill with this type of activity. I used to enjoy reading the posts quite a lot, but not so much in the last while.
Sorry, just a quick question... Didn't your post count go up with this nothing-but-negative comment? How about you go into the thread about gardening to bitch about non-fish related subject... Oh, you'll be standing up to Rodney instead of some guy you have a problem with for no reason. I'm sure Rodney will appreciate your constructive critisism.
My new favorite thing-- Posters that post to bitch about people who post. Very Ironic.
RobertO
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You might want to try your hand at comedy birdnester... you crack me up!
CJ.
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Now I am worried about feeding the lids their canned salmon.... damn.
CJ
It looks like chinook had the worst level of PBDE's. Other species seem ok, or are at lower levels than their farmed salmon counterparts. Canned sockeye and pinks should be ok.
Besides chinook, other locally caught wild salmon -- coho, chum, sockeye and pink -- generally had lower levels of the fire retardant than their farmed counterparts, according to the study.
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You might want to try your hand at comedy birdnester... you crack me up!
CJ.
;)
RobertO
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HUH?
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All right! I finally found the place to do this. Two more posts and I get another star. Here's the first one: I happend to meet that old curmudgeon, Sam. Seemed like a real nice guy to me.
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And here is the second: thhbbbbb!
I'll be back in November. I hope all you folks have a chance to yell "fish on!" a whole lot of times between now and then.
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Hey y'all,
the fires happened last year. the fish here now? wouldnt they have left the river before last year???? time lines don't make any sense. Thus... even if the mclure barrier fires could effect the fraser, doesnt really make sense that the evidence of such effects would appear in the fish we are eating currently.
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Well I don't know anything about it, but wouldn't all that fire retardent stuff be on the land and get pushed slowly into the river when it rains and such? Also, if that kind of thing gets into the river, how long does it stay in the river?
RobertO
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According to one article I read it may or may not be fire retardant. The chemical in question apparently can be found in daily household appliances and stuff. How the chemical found its way into salmon is the question ?