Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: thewilliamswall on June 22, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
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Looking for a spot for the girls to swim and the guys to fish with float tubes. Prefer within 3-3.5hr drive from lower mainland, not provincial. The less crowded the better, the more remote the better, no 4x4, no amenities needed other than fire pit and lake.
Am I asking for too much?
Also, whats the best way to see if a lake is swimmable (no leeches, no swimmers itch)??? We went to Calling/Big Ok lakes last year and they are perfect except not sure if you can swim there and "google" doesn't wanna help.
Thanks for any tips.
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You are indeed asking for much if you want a lake within 3.5 hour of lower mainland with no 4x4 that is good for fishing AND swimming but is not too crowded. Weaver has both but is often busy as is Silver Lake (Provincial). Most lakes in BC are "swimmable" and the presence of leeches does not mean you cannot swim. Leeches move quite slowly, so as long as you keep moving in the water, you are fine. If one gets on you, just pull it off. I swam in Roche as a child when I was not fishing, and I never had any problem with the leeches.
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Leeches were used to cure people in the old times
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Remote but no 4x4? Thats hilarious!!!!!!
You will NEVER find such a place with what you have.
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Sandman- thanks. I realize Im asking a lot that's why I came here looking for help! With a newborn my camping trips are limited this year and Im trying to to kill 2 birds with one stone.
adriaticum- Try telling that to the girls.
bronswyk- Not every remote lake needs 4x4. This is BC and there are tons of well maintained logging roads and gravel roads. I am more concerned about swimming than getting there. I just don't want to promise a weekend of swimming and then get there and the lake is gross.
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What you are asking is not completely hopeless.
Years ago on the August long weekend, 8 of us with 4 1year old kids wanted a remote spot with absolutely no one around.
We drove up Harrison East and hiked down an embankment to a spot along Big Silver Creek that you couldn't see from the road. Huge sandy beach, great fishing spots and lots of swimming for the women. Not a float tube place, but nonetheless.....it worked out, and even though you could faintly hear some traffic on the road above....not one person came down to our spot in 3 days. Completely private and just over an hour from home.
A little research and work, and you can easily find what you're looking for.
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Just to clarify- we aren't looking for a lake to ourselves, just a little elbow room... I.e not harrison, cultus, jones, tunkwa, roche, etc.
There's gotta be some near Merritt/Kamloops that are swimable and have no boats or limited horsepower...
Not provincial cuz we have a fire no matter what and like to be loud.
Thanks again.
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To expand on the post, what are the rules for tenting in BC, do you need a licence, is it illegal anywhere?
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Not provincial cuz we have a fire no matter what
Provincial Parks mean nothing in regards to having a fire or not. If there is a campfire ban in the given region, then you cannot have a fire regardless of where you go.
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I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you. So, ya, probably asking a bit much ;) :P
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Save yourself travel time/gas. Hit Birch Bay to camp, swim in the ocean, get the guys that want to tube to hit a local lake.
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Just noticed Google Maps got updated, new 2013 maps... exploring time ;D
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I will be nice LOL
If I were you I would pick somewhere from Go Fish BC ( their website ). You can search their database and it will tell you if it is 4x4 accessible or not. Pick a lake that you have never heard of before. It will give you more of a chance that not many talk about it making your chances at being remote greater. Any lakes that get mentioned time and time again are going to be very busy especially during the summer. As the weather gets better it gets harder and harder to find what your looking for. Even for us guys with a 4x4
Good luck
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i once went to Wolf Lake near harrison,
easy to get to, had the lake to our selves, swimming was amazing since the water was hot spring warmed.
i didn't fish it but google brought this up:
http://www.sharphooks.com/tripplanner.aspx?subpage=lakeinfo&lake=wolf+lakes&lakeid=93
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Weaver lake
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Try Blue Lake resort 15k out of Boston Bar.
http://www.bluelakeresort.ca/ (http://www.bluelakeresort.ca/)
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Maybe something off of Kane valley rd south of Merritt, lots of potential non-provincial lakes.
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Try Blue Lake resort 15k out of Boston Bar.
http://www.bluelakeresort.ca/ (http://www.bluelakeresort.ca/)
This is a private lake (only resort access) so not likely to meet your needs. The small beach area is very busy. The swimming is good though and you might catch a small rainbow in the evening if you are lucky.
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Silver Lake!
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Silver Lake!
If you mean Silver Lake, as in the one near Hope, it is a Provincial campground managed by Sea to Sky Park Services, and I understood the O.P. didn't want to be in a provincial campground because of possible noise restrictions. I guess you can park on the road beside the lake, but B.C. Park Rangers or Conservation will remove you if you are found camping there.
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Penguin- exactly what I'm looking for!
My backroad map book doesn't specify if its good to swim which is annoying. That 'ifish' or fish bc site lets you search by 'swimming' but not by region as well so you go thru dozens of lakes up north and on the island...
Kane valley looks great and has like 8 lakes. Ones gotta be swimable where we can rough it along the shore with our music cranked.
Thanks for the input guys!
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How about Stacy lake. Not a lake that get mentioned alot.
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No real camping at stacey lake and I wouldn't think of it as a good swimming lake either, very shallow with a very muddy shoreline.
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Penguin- exactly what I'm looking for!
My backroad map book doesn't specify if its good to swim which is annoying. That 'ifish' or fish bc site lets you search by 'swimming' but not by region as well so you go thru dozens of lakes up north and on the island...
Kane valley looks great and has like 8 lakes. Ones gotta be swimable where we can rough it along the shore with our music cranked.
Thanks for the input guys!
I fish those lakes allot. FULL of ATV'ers and VERY busy in the summer. Not many people swim in those lakes though for reasons I dont know
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Ones gotta be swimable where we can rough it along the shore with our music cranked.
I have never understood this behaviour of going out of ones way to "rough it" at a quiet lake only to "crank" one's music. I personally find any "unnatural" sounds (acoustic guitars aside) to be quite grating in such a setting (you can hear approaching vehicles/ATVs from miles away). Then there is the fact that sound carries much further across a lake than across land, so you are effectively imposing your own taste in music on everyone else on the lake. Damn them if they do not like it. I do appreciate your taking the time to try to find a secluded lake where you would not disturb other people. It used to be that there were enough empty spaces out there where you might have had the area to yourself (although a 4x4 was usually still necessary), so you might have been able to "crank" the tunes and not ruin someone else's weekend. Today, however, even the roughest 4x4 accessible lakes is likely to be shared between 2 or 3 users, who are going to need to respect each other. I wonder...why not enjoy the natural setting for what it is? You would then not be in danger of disrespecting any other users out there.
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sandman- The whole reason we avoid provincial sites is to be able to do what we want when we want. If a man cant stay up til 5am in front of a fire, cranking country and singing along at the top of his lungs, then wake up a few hours later and fire off a 100 rounds before he jumps in his float tube to drink away the afternoon, then what's the point???
If you don't want to be "disrespected" and want a quiet, peaceful, easy going camping then go provincial or a private lake- that's what they are there for. When my baby boy is old enough and I can take him and the wife that's what we'll do- tunkwa, roche, cultus, etc.
Anyways, if you are out in the boonies and the music at night keeps you up and has you feeling disrespected, then you either need to find a new spot or grab a beer and a joint and go join the party!
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Anyways, if you are out in the boonies and the music at night keeps you up and has you feeling disrespected, then you either need to find a new spot or grab a beer and a joint and go join the party!
Ah lovely attitude... self entitlement at its best. too bad u'll be passing that to ur son eventually.
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Am I "self entitled" because I purposely go far away so to have as little effect on my surroundings as possible?
Or are you "self entitled" because you expect everyone to do what you want wherever you go?
I hope you aren't passing on that attitude to anyone because the real world will eat them alive.
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Am I "self entitled" because I purposely go far away so to have as little effect on my surroundings as possible?
You answered that here...
Anyways, if you are out in the boonies and the music at night keeps you up and has you feeling disrespected, then you either need to find a new spot or grab a beer and a joint and go join the party!
Remember, I drove just as far as you did to get away from the city and the parties, and the crowded Provincial campgrounds to enjoy the quiet peace of our natural heritage, and now you are telling me that I need to find a new spot if I don't like it that you are singing country and western tunes at the top of your lungs until 5 am and then firing off a 100 rounds. You are effectively telling me that you have more right to do what you want than I do, so yeah, that is "self-entitled". Where what you are doing is keeping me from doing what I want, what I am doing is not stopping you from doing what you want (after all you probably wouldn't even know I was there nor that I was driven away by your selfish behaviour). I was simply questioning why you would want to impose your will over other peace loving British Columbians, why you would want to disturb the quiet enjoyment of our super natural province by doing what you could just as easily do in your own house. But then again, you answered that already, haven't you.
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" just as easily do in your own house"
Riiiiiiggght, cuz campfires by a lake and shooting guns can totally be done inside my house... Where do you come up with this stuff?
How about 'thanks for respecting those of us who wish to have a quiet night and enjoy the sounds of nature by finding a remote spot in the middle of nowhere to do your shenanigans'
Now, if you want stay on your soap box how about you go after the drunks and rowdys at the provincial and private lakes who say screw the rules and party all night and leave garbage and ruin the whole weekend for dozens of families?
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Now, if you want stay on your soap box how about you go after the drunks and rowdys at the provincial and private lakes who say screw the rules and party all night and leave garbage and ruin the whole weekend for dozens of families?
then wake up a few hours later and fire off a 100 rounds before he jumps in his float tube to drink away the afternoon, then what's the point???
Firing off 100 shots, yelling country songs at the top of your lungs and going and drinking away the afternoon sounds just like what you are doing. I can't really side with either sides here (I'm just pointing out that you are contradicting yourself all over the place here). I love country and have no problems with people going to remote places to party. Just clean up your sh** (like no one ever does) and respect others and there is no problem - hopefully you pick up all your rounds as well!
And you've obviously never been in a provincial camp site. You get 1 warning and then you get evicted for any noise past 10 am (or for noise that is too loud during normal hours regardless). During the eviction they have the power to write you a number of fairly significant fines as well. You would also get very large fines for littering.
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sandman- The whole reason we avoid provincial sites is to be able to do what we want when we want. If a man cant stay up til 5am in front of a fire, cranking country and singing along at the top of his lungs, then wake up a few hours later and fire off a 100 rounds before he jumps in his float tube to drink away the afternoon, then what's the point???
If you don't want to be "disrespected" and want a quiet, peaceful, easy going camping then go provincial or a private lake- that's what they are there for. When my baby boy is old enough and I can take him and the wife that's what we'll do- tunkwa, roche, cultus, etc.
Anyways, if you are out in the boonies and the music at night keeps you up and has you feeling disrespected, then you either need to find a new spot or grab a beer and a joint and go join the party!
Booze, drugs and firearms are a lethal mix!!
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Booze, drugs and firearms are a lethal mix!!
Don't forget the float tube on the lake. Oh wait this sounds like natural selection, too bad it's not more effective and faster acting...
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Don't forget the float tube on the lake. Oh wait this sounds like natural selection, too bad it's not more effective and faster acting...
And then there's the drive home after drinking the afternoon away in the float tube after a sleepless night.
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ya, because every new father is just itching to kill himself on a drunken drive home...
You guys ever think that people actually drive up on Friday, party Friday night and Saturday night and drive home safely on sunday after a great weekend?
Im not sure if you guys are trolls looking for a reaction or just idiots....
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ya, because every new father is just itching to kill himself on a drunken drive home...
You guys ever think that people actually drive up on Friday, party Friday night and Saturday night and drive home safely on sunday after a great weekend?
Im not sure if you guys are trolls looking for a reaction or just idiots....
Yup we are the idiots while you're the normal guy who wants to go party it up in the outdoors shooting stuff randomly, yell country at the top of your lungs like a little girl, doing drugs in the great outdoors and more than likely leave crap everywhere (as you havent said you clean up your mess yet, and if you say it now is just too late for it to be an honest answer) asking a bunch of outdoor enthuisiests who take care of cherish and protect the environment. Yup you're right we are the idiots, not you. I wonder how old you truly are as you act like the immature high school kids who do the exact same thing every long weekend of the summer...
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Depending on how much booze and drugs you consume on the Saturday night, you can easily be unfit to drive on the Sunday!!
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This thread has gone sideways. Lol. Been there done that, not to country music mind you. More like AC-DC, Scorpions, Metallica, etc. We were all young once. Lol. Nowadays I go to the provincial campgrounds to keep away from the youngins who do what I used to do.And yah we always packed everything out.Lol. Anyone remember Rainbow Fest, up at what is now Thurston Meadows campground? Lol
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This thread has gone sideways. Lol. Been there done that, not to country music mind you. More like AC-DC, Scorpions, Metallica, etc. We were all young once. Lol. Nowadays I go to the provincial campgrounds to keep away from the youngins who do what I used to do.And yah we always packed everything out.Lol. Anyone remember Rainbow Fest, up at what is now Thurston Meadows campground? Lol
What sort of weapons were you discharging a hundred rounds from, after drinking, etc... all night??
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Your acting like a redneck but dont have a 4x4? WOW!! If others are camping around you what gives you the right to be disrespectful? What if the people around you have kids? Are you still going to blare your music while their sleeping? If you did that near me I would ask you to turn it down.
Like I said in an earlier post. If you dont have a 4x4 their is no way you are getting a camping spot where you will be alone and able to be a redneck. The redneck comment is not disrespectful either as I have friends that are proud to be a redneck but they are not disrespectful!!!
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This thread has gone sideways. Lol. Been there done that, not to country music mind you. More like AC-DC, Scorpions, Metallica, etc. We were all young once. Lol. Nowadays I go to the provincial campgrounds to keep away from the youngins who do what I used to do.And yah we always packed everything out.Lol. Anyone remember Rainbow Fest, up at what is now Thurston Meadows campground? Lol
Rainbow Fest? Anything to do with the rainbow flag now a days? :P
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I wouldn't consider the Kane Valley lakes as "remote". The area can be pretty busy, especially on weekends. All of the lakes have campsites available and at least one or two are usually used. The road is also used regularly by residents up there, plus the cattles being herded each morning. If you're playing music loudly until 5am, firing 100 rounds in the morning etc, I'm pretty sure the cops will show up in no time to escort you out.
Personally I have no interest in those activities when camping and don't understand it, but don't really care as long as no one is doing it around me and garbage is cleaned up afterward, including shell casings. What I am curious about, thewilliamswall, if I have already set up my camp at a remote lake and expect to enjoy the silence during my stay, would you still, arrive after me, set up your camp and carry out those activities mentioned? If yes, would you consider that as good remote camping etiquette?
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I would recommend cat lake by squamish then.... I went to do some recon there last summer with the wife and when we walked around the lake I was pretty sure we were the oldest people there..... i'm 36
the 'ranger', if thats what you want to call her, said they don't really care about music or partying because the vast majority of campers are young kids who only brought hot dogs and booze.
so other than firing off your weapons it would be a good place to camp and you would be partying with people who are also drunk and high as a mofo.... and they stock the lake too.
and your front wheel drive car can get there.
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Probably would fit right in at Foley lake most weekends. ::)
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Rainbow Fest? Anything to do with the rainbow flag now a days? :P
Rainbow fest was a " word of mouth" weekend of live heavy metal music on a concert stage set up where Thurston meadows campground now is, some 30 yrs ago. The music went around the clock. One of the better bands started their set at 4:00 am on Saturday morning. I do remember a couple of cars torched to make bonfires. Unfortunately near the end of the weekend, one of the campers was run over while passed out in some long grass and was taken to the hospital, not sure if he survived.
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Im not sure if you guys are trolls looking for a reaction or just idiots....
Says the Dick Nite...
::) ::)
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Im not sure if you guys are trolls looking for a reaction or just idiots....
Really? I am an idiot for questioning why someone would drive all the way to a quiet, peaceful lake only to make a bunch of noise? Really?
Riiiiiiggght, cuz campfires by a lake and shooting guns can totally be done inside my house... Where do you come up with this stuff?
You really do not get it do you? My question was WHY have a campfire by a quiet peaceful lake IF you are going to make a bunch of noise? Why can you not enjoy the quiet peaceful nature of the lake itself... the haunting call of the loon, the occasional splash of rising trout, or the deep croak of the invasive bullfrog? My point was that you can make a bunch of noise in your house, you can even build a fire in your backyard if you do not have a fireplace inside to accompany your raucous singing, and you can just as easily do your firing at the local rifle range. Your apparent desire to combine booze and firearms in a peaceful and "public" place is not only idiotic, it is likely criminal (CCoC 85(1): Careless use of a firearm). This I must conclude is your real reason for going to the quiet, peaceful lake to do this, as you cannot discharge a firearm at a range if you are under the influence of alcohol (hmmm, I wonder why that is?). If you plan on bring firearms with you, I highly recommend you leave the booze at home. Finally, I personally do not need to wonder where you come up with this stuff, as you have made THAT abundantly clear. My heart goes out to your eventual children.
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Really? I am an idiot for questioning why someone would drive all the way to a quiet, peaceful lake only to make a bunch of noise? Really?
You really do not get it do you? My question was WHY have a campfire by a quiet peaceful lake IF you are going to make a bunch of noise? Why can you not enjoy the quiet peaceful nature of the lake itself... the haunting call of the loon, the occasional splash of rising trout, or the deep croak of the invasive bullfrog? My point was that you can make a bunch of noise in your house, you can even build a fire in your backyard if you do not have a fireplace inside to accompany your raucous singing, and you can just as easily do your firing at the local rifle range. Your apparent desire to combine booze and firearms in a peaceful and "public" place is not only idiotic, it is likely criminal (CCoC 85(1): Careless use of a firearm). This I must conclude is your real reason for going to the quiet, peaceful lake to do this, as you cannot discharge a firearm at a range if you are under the influence of alcohol (hmmm, I wonder why that is?). If you plan on bring firearms with you, I highly recommend you leave the booze at home. Finally, I personally do not need to wonder where you come up with this stuff, as you have made THAT abundantly clear. My heart goes out to your eventual children.
Well freaking said!
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I would recommend cat lake by squamish then.... I went to do some recon there last summer with the wife and when we walked around the lake I was pretty sure we were the oldest people there..... I'm 36
the 'ranger', if that's what you want to call her, said they don't really care about music or partying because the vast majority of campers are young kids who only brought hot dogs and booze.
so other than firing off your weapons it would be a good place to camp and you would be partying with people who are also drunk and high as a mofo.... and they stock the lake too.
and your front wheel drive car can get there.
Take Cat Lake off of the list as it is now being managed to remove all of the idiots. Lots of young people there as well as families. Nice lake. Most definitely not a spot for gunfire as the forests around the lake are heavily used by dirt bikes, mtn. bikes as well as hikers.
Don't know where I would recommend a lake like your looking for. Maybe the Barrens in the North West Territories. Nobody to bug there. You can drink, smoke, sing hillbilly songs and shoot your gun off to your hearts content. Don't forget to take out your garbage and shell caseings.
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sandman- Shooting in the morning before drinking isn't careless use of firearms. If you can read, I clearly said I want to wake up and shoot, THEN drink in the lake in my float tube and party at night in a remote area so as NOT TO disturb many people. I think you are just an old grump with nothing better to do than argue online. You are probably just jealous of the younger generation who are still partying it up with babes in bikinis, guns and rods. You are the old man yelling at the kids for playing hockey in the street cuz you have to wait 10 seconds to move their nets and the guy calling the cops at 10:01pm on a Friday when the neighbors music is still playing. Get a life.
Rodney- if you are the only one at the lake and I show up Im gonna party. Its for the greater good. I can be loud and possibly offend one person or go somewhere crowded and offend many. if you want a private peaceful lake yourself go provincial or private. If you head to the bush you gotta know that if its legal its allowed, you are taking a chance just like everyone else. Did you think that to many music at night is preferable to dirt bikes in the morning? or kids screaming during the day?
That's why I came here originally. We are trying to be considerate by planning ahead and going somewhere that will disrupt fewer people or ideally none at all- if they are there to do the same thing as us.
So for all you cry babies that think I am the devil you should wish that everyone would put in the effort that we are.
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Thanks for answering, but if you would like others to understand and empathize the way you roll, you may want to edit your posts.
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Your only the devil if you have too big of a fire right now. So far can still have a fire though.
http://bcwildfire.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/Bans.asp
have a good time :)
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sandman- you are just too dumb for words. Shooting in the morning before drinking isn't careless use of firearms. If you can read, I clearly said I want to wake up and shoot, THEN drink in the lake in my float tube and party at night in a remote area so as NOT TO disturb many people. I think you are just an old grump with nothing better to do than argue online. You are probably just jealous of the younger generation who are still partying it up with babes in bikinis, guns and rods. You are the old man yelling at the kids for playing hockey in the street cuz you have to wait 10 seconds to move their nets and the guy calling the cops at 10:01pm on a Friday when the neighbors music is still playing. Get a life.
Rodney- if you are the only one at the lake and I show up Im gonna party. Its for the greater good. I can be loud and possibly offend one person or go somewhere crowded and offend many. if you want a private peaceful lake yourself go provincial or private. If you head to the bush you gotta know that if its legal its allowed, you are taking a chance just like everyone else. Did you think that to many music at night is preferable to dirt bikes in the morning? or kids screaming during the day?
That's why I came here originally. We are trying to be considerate by planning ahead and going somewhere that will disrupt fewer people or ideally none at all- if they are there to do the same thing as us.
So for all you cry babies that think I am the devil you can go F**K yourselves. You should wish that everyone would put in the effort that we are.
Will, every post you make confirms the quality of human being you are. I merely asked the question why, but your subsequent tirade and insults proves your worth. It is laughable that you actually think people are jealous of you and your bikini babes because you have booze and guns. If I wanted to party, I would. Despite what you think, you do not need to be "young" to party all night and shoot guns in the morning and drink in your float tube all day. I just do not feel the need to disturb the quiet peace of a wilderness lake to do it. And my advice to leave the booze at home if you are bringing guns stands, or I suppose you are the only person in history who has never done anything foolish while drinking, so there is no chance you, in your drunken folly, might decide shooting the guns at night would be a blast. And I am not the old grump yelling at the kids playing hockey in the street, I am the father playing hockey with them. Again, I did not come online to argue, I had originally offered you advice, I merely expressed my befuddlement at your desire to seek a quiet lake (and you are not going to find a lake to yourself without a 4x4) only to disturb that very quiet tranquility with loud music. It was you who chose to argue that it was within your rights to disturb the peace and I can either leave or join the party, which you then followed up with further insults and childish puffery and profane language. Do not be surprised when you and your bikini babes are beaten In your tents as you sleep by some old grumpy backwoods folk who take exception to your belief that you own the backcountry and can disturb whomever you like. You attitude is precisely what leads to confrontation in the woods. People who believe they can do what they like and the rest be damned, usually get what they deserve.
Once more, I will express my appreciation that you are attempting to disturb as few people as possible (again, you will not likely have the lake to yourself without a 4x4 so you will likely disturb someone), but you still have not answered my question why you want to disturb a quiet setting like a lake by making a bunch of noise with anything more than "I am young." Yes, you sure are. Your reply to Rod is proof of that. Your reasoning that you will "stay and party" and it is "for the greater good" since you can either stay and disturb one person (Rod) or go somewhere crowded and disturb many people. It never even occurs to you that there is indeed a third option ... Do not be loud and disturb no one. But you, in your self centered youth, cannot even comprehend that other option. Just as your I insistence that I "get a life," reveals that you cannot comprehend that life can indeed be enjoyable without getting drunk and partying all night.
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Stave Lake. It's a shyte hole where you will blend in perfectly with all the drunken tards shooting guns, getting high and thrashing beautiful British Columbia while singing country.
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Wow, are we on Sharp Hooks????
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Wow, are we on Sharp Hooks????
only will thinks he is lol... well said sandman. will thinks he deserves respect from others but his attitude just backs up what sandman is pointing out. owned! ;D the fact that he can't make his point without making up insults on those who disagree with him demonstrates his lack of respect on and off line. father material for sure. ::)
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Rodney- if you are the only one at the lake and I show up Im gonna party. Its for the greater good. I can be loud and possibly offend one person or go somewhere crowded and offend many. if you want a private peaceful lake yourself go provincial or private. If you head to the bush you gotta know that if its legal its allowed, you are taking a chance just like everyone else.
So for all you cry babies that think I am the devil you should wish that everyone would put in the effort that we are.
Williamswell, I am only going to tell you this once, so read carefully: If my party happens to be the only one at the lake when your troop arrives and starts their bacchanalia, you better turn around and look for another lake. Trust me, there are people among us who are the nicest people in the world if approached nicely and well-behaved. But man, we can be crazy and irrational when our rights to a quiet night in the boonies are threatened.
We survived civil wars, dude, so I guarantee you we will manage a bunch of immature drunk yahoos with attitude overload. So pick out your lake carefully to make sure we are not there.
Or better yet: Make sure NOBODY is there.
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If a man cant stay up til 5am in front of a fire, cranking country and singing along at the top of his lungs, then wake up a few hours later and fire off a 100 rounds
After reading this carefully, it plainly says you are discharging weapons when you would still be heavily under the influence of your drugs and alcohol.
What type of weaponry are you discharging 100 rounds from.
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Stave Lake.
Bingo. I can name a couple of others but I hear they're trying to clean 'em up; a course of action I happen to support.
BTW, OP you may want to add Rec Sites to your list ("if you want a private peaceful lake yourself go provincial or private"). If you don't know what a rec site is I recommend reading this: http://www.sitesandtrailsbc.ca/about/. Basically, they're remote lakeside spots -- often 2wd accessible -- that you can, at times, be lucky enough to have for yourself. Unfortunately, for you, there ARE rules, and they have to do with respecting: others, the site, wildlife, etc. In other words, these sites aren't the place for you and yours.
I think the real answer here is: buy yourself a few acres, with no one else around for many-a-mile, and build yourself a lake. Don't point those guns straight up and you should be able to partake in your pass time, care free, from there on out.
Take 'er sleazy