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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: brad7 on November 30, 2012, 06:42:22 PM

Title: Pin question
Post by: brad7 on November 30, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
So this is my first year with the pin, and I got a few fish under my belt. But I can't figure out if I'm suppose throw my clicker on when I get into a fish or not, all the fish I ve played I have done it in free spool. But I was watching sports fishing bc ( or wut ever the hell it's called now) and I saw those guys throw the clicker on. So is it just personal preference or something else?
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Johnny Canuck on November 30, 2012, 06:51:17 PM
The clicker is designed to keep the reel from free spooling while hiking or storing the setup. The people who throw the clicker on just are just trying to be cool or are all like, "Look at me I have a fish on"
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Jewelz on November 30, 2012, 08:07:06 PM
I click mine on when I'm about to land the fish, this is only so it doesn't nest up on me... I think I would get annoyed if I heard the clicker every time the fish went for a run!  ;D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 30, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
The clicker is designed to keep the reel from free spooling while hiking or storing the setup. The people who throw the clicker on just are just trying to be cool or are all like, "Look at me I have a fish on"

Ditto
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: azafai on November 30, 2012, 08:09:50 PM

I think it is just a bit saver to put the clicker/drag on and by that prevent any possible accidental tangling or excessive free spooling.

Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Carich980 on November 30, 2012, 08:28:10 PM
   I thought the point of center pin was to match you against the fish.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Brian the fisherman on November 30, 2012, 08:35:26 PM
you will ruin the clicker eventually if you turn it on when fish runs
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Geff_t on November 30, 2012, 08:44:23 PM
The clicker is also a dinner bell for bears  ;D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Pin-nook on November 30, 2012, 09:05:02 PM
"Turn on the clicker while playing fish"... :D :D :D :D

The clicker is only engaged when you are not using the reel so that the spool doesn't spin. Look at the design, if you use that while fighting fish then you know it will eventually wear out or even break!
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: brad7 on December 01, 2012, 10:23:53 AM
K thanks. One more thing, as far cleaning and maintance anything I should be doing to my islander cp to keep it mint?
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 01, 2012, 11:40:28 AM
K thanks. One more thing, as far cleaning and maintance anything I should be doing to my islander cp to keep it mint?

Best thing to do is keep it clean, try to avoid putting it down in sand is a major one especially because it is a heavily ported reel (lots of holes for sand to get into) Other that than that just wipe it down every couple trips to clean up any borax or what not on it. If I go fishing and it's raining when I get home I make sure to keep the reel pouch off of the reel until everything has dried up as this will help reduce the chance of the moisture damaging anything or causing any problems.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: brad7 on December 01, 2012, 11:50:51 AM
Wut should I wipe it down with?
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 01, 2012, 11:54:22 AM
Clean damp cloth would be fine. I've seen some reels so caked in borax its hard to tell what type of reel it is. It won't really harm the reel but it sure doesn't look very attractive I think. Plus the fact that most pins cost a few hundred dollars, I prefer to take care of my investments.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: fishgod on December 01, 2012, 01:25:29 PM
One other thing on cleaning - excessive cleaning will slow down break in time if its a new reel.  Over oiling and greasing will also tend to attract that unwanted grit so...  Absolutely remove the worst of the grunge,  especially old row as that can stink and lead to smells that will turn-off fish.  I also second the comments above around allowing your gear to dry out thoroughly.  Playing a fish with a clicker on is personal preference - and I do love the sound off a reel singing to the tune of a big spring in the salt - but anywhere you find seals it definitely will reduce your chances of a successful catch.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Bandit420 on December 01, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
One other thing on cleaning - excessive cleaning will slow down break in time if its a new reel.  Over oiling and greasing will also tend to attract that unwanted grit so...  Absolutely remove the worst of the grunge,  especially old row as that can stink and lead to smells that will turn-off fish.  I also second the comments above around allowing your gear to dry out thoroughly.  Playing a fish with a clicker on is personal preference - and I do love the sound off a reel singing to the tune of a big spring in the salt - but anywhere you find seals it definitely will reduce your chances of a successful catch.

X2 I turn my clicker on when fighting a fish. Reduces back lash, and sounds cool when the fish runs. But its all personal preference.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Silex-user on December 01, 2012, 08:53:51 PM
X3, I do turn on clinker when I am playing a fish. A good idea is to separate the spool from main frame base when it wet to let it dry out. I do see and hear lots of C-pin user using their clinker when playing a fish.


Silex-user
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: kalex60 on December 02, 2012, 12:06:01 AM
Problems with putting the clicker on for the whole fight is it causes excess wear to the reel and is just showing off
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 02, 2012, 12:34:34 AM
Anglers who put the clicker on while fighting fish don't catch many fish and need all the attention they can get (http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Funny%20Animated%20Emoticons/stick%20with%20poke.gif)


 :D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: RalphH on December 02, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
the clicker is a drag and is meant to be used when playing a fish. It's isn't a sophisticated drag and will only prevent free spooling.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Bandit420 on December 02, 2012, 04:52:46 PM
I put a small bead of grease right on the needle of the clicker, that way its not metal on metal and it doesnt wear out. Plus it makes the click much less loud for all you guys that think we are showing off when theres no one around for hours! :D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Noahs Arc on December 02, 2012, 05:58:12 PM
It's all preference. Alot of guys like to hear the ziiiiing. I just put the clicker on when I'm about to tail or beach a fish so I don't end up in a mess. Very handy. Otherwise I PREFER not to use the clicker. I love the way the reel spins under my fingers silently, and I think it's kind of hokey when you hear the clicker when the angler is slowly reeling in.
The talisman is kind of neat that the clicker only engages when paying line.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: adriaticum on December 02, 2012, 08:00:47 PM
Clicker = major league annoyance
I don't even like fishing next to someone with a clicker.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: rjs on December 02, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
I only turn on clicker when I'm about to land the fish ! too many times I've landed fish only to look at my reel to see it free wheelin line out all over the place  :-[
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: joshhowat on December 02, 2012, 09:55:08 PM
This is stupid it's like saying rock is the best music, no pop, no country.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 02, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
This is stupid it's like saying rock is the best music, no pop, no country.

Jazz is clearly the best  ;D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: adriaticum on December 02, 2012, 11:01:55 PM
Jazz is clearly the best  ;D

Without a doubt!
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 02, 2012, 11:59:40 PM
Classical is the cat's meow :D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: blaydRnr on December 03, 2012, 12:30:11 AM
I think part of the art of using a centerpin is learning to use your finger/s (or palm) to control the drag...this is the main reason this reel was created without a breaking system. besides, most people including myself, find the sound of the clicker to be very annoying.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: RalphH on December 03, 2012, 08:09:52 AM
click and pawl drags have been around for a hundred years or so. They don't wear out unless they are made of cheap sh*t. The click and pawl drag on Hardy reels was the standard for decades. Many of those reels couild be used for decades and the drag did not wear out. The rivets do come loose but are relatively easy and cheap to fix.

The clicker on some reels such as some level winds are not meant to be used when playing fish. They are just intended as a 'fish on alarm' when trolling.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: timkachur on December 03, 2012, 10:09:01 AM
Clicker and drag are two separate things. There are center pin reels with a built in drag and then there are center pin reels with clickers.

What is meant by “misuse of the clicker”?  Isn’t the clicker supposed to assist in fighting fish?

 With the exception of a few reels made with an adjustable mechanical drag system, the clicker on a centre-pin is to be used when transporting only.  It is a means to stop the spool from “free spinning” and the result bird’s nest of line.

Adjustable drag/resistance mechanisms on a centre-pin reel, isn’t that sacrilege to the design premise?

To some it would seem that incorporating a drag would be the exact reverse of what centre-pinning is all about.  Drag free drifts, remember?  And while I agree, there are some very nice centre-pins that have the ability to engage a resistance mechanism (some with adjustable tension) in the event assistance is needed when fighting a fish.  One caveat of centre-pin reels is they all are unique, with specialized features, histories, and most come with some sort of story to tell (if not, certainly a story to sell!). 
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: Noahs Arc on December 03, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
Its kind of like fly fishing with bait.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: RalphH on December 04, 2012, 08:21:41 AM
the Hardy Silex series and the Islander cps have click and pawl drags (and that's all) that are meant to be used. The free spool feature is for casting or feeding line. My Silex is 40 years old and the drag is not worn out.
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: EZ_Rolling on December 04, 2012, 03:49:26 PM
I would be quite happy to replace the clicker on my Islander if it was to burn out fighting fish after all it is a triangle and has 3 points to wear out before that happens so I should be good for this season at least  ;D
Title: Re: Pin question
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 04, 2012, 06:48:08 PM
if your clicker is weak on an islander all you need to do is bend the tension spring towards the triangle. Makes it better than new

Yes, but if the adjustment too strong, it will separate the plastic gear off the body. I have seen it twice.