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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: jacked55 on July 24, 2012, 04:32:13 PM
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Just wondering what the majority of people would considered a fair gratuity for a one day ocean salmon fishing charter, assuming the charter experience was good.
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at least 10-15%, or up to 50$.
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just depends on you really. when I went on a charter three years ago. I had such a blast slaying chinooks only boat that was that day!. I gave the guide 100 bucks. Generosity should come from the heart not percentages. Go with what you feel they deserve.
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We gave 10% but I threw in another $20 to the young 19 year old that baited our hooks and netted the fish.
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I'd say $100 bucks minimum is polite
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I'd say $100 bucks minimum is polite
I agree unless the guide was lazy and didnt work hard enough. You cant judge it based on how good the fishing was. We had a guide last year that tried desperately to get us into fish and blew a ton of gas. In the end we caught fish but not as much as expected. He still got his $100 tip.
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I'd tell the guy you had a great day on the water and youd like him to take his wife out for dinner on you, and give him 50 bucks. That's a big tip. None of this hundred bucks stuff! You already paid a lot for the trip. That being said, if you make a decent income, and 100 bucks isn't a big deal to you, then don't be so cheap! Give the guy a hundred bucks!!! ;D
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We gave 10% but I threw in another $20 to the young 19 year old that baited our hooks and netted the fish.
Good for you, sounds like you were generous and had a good time!
Tips are all about effort, as others have said. bb2000 nailed it when he mentioned that it's not dependent on if you caught fish or not - sometimes you just don't catch fish. On the other side of the coin, if you caught lots of fish but the guide was lazy/offensive/etc, then lowballing him/her or even giving them no tip is fine by me.
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You make tons of money! Tip large my friend!!
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We always do $50 bucks per head per day if the guide works hard. So $200 for a group of 4. I tell the guys I fish with that that's what we tip up front, anyone too cheap can stay home.
I have only had 1 bad guide for 1 day on an OBMG so haven't had to tip less.
These guys live and die on tips and IMO 10% is not enough. That would only be 90 bucks on a 900 ocean charter, and 40 bucks for a day out with one of Murphy's guys on the stamp. Not enough considering these guys are up at 5am getting the boat ready, they fish you 8-10 hours, clean your fish after, clean the boat, gas up and tie rigs for the next day. 15 hour days to get tipped the same percentage as a server at the Cactus club.
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I should add do your research before choosing a guide and you'll never have a bad trip. I know I'm in for a good day with a guy like 'Nog, or Rollie, or Gill McKean, Dustin K, etc.
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I'm beginning to see the merit on the Euro no tip they are paid pro's theory as some outfits are abusing the principle.
last year we went out on an afternoon trip from Vancouver with some visitors from Scotland, good fishing, boat hand worked hard but the skipper was sadly laking in people skills, curt and a racist. You do not tell racists jokes to your clientele or make derogatory statements about visual minorities ,especially when you have no idea who your clients are.
again boathand saved the afternoon.
skipper even told us all he pays little as the boat hand makes his money on tips. Note to Skipper! min wage !!!
since heard this guy has packed it in! could that be no referals?
had another trip where the O/O guide refused a tip as he was only doing what he was paid for ( this is who we thought we were re-booking).
so in short, O/Oguides your fees only, boat hands and working guides, sliding scale depending on the effort, pot will sweeten the better the experience had ie: fish, good company.
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I've been checking out the guiding websites, and need a little clarification. I used to coach wakeboarding and we charged per head, not for the boat. So when a guiding service charges $500 for 1 person, $530 for 2, $575 for 3 etc. etc. That's total right? You're essentially paying $500 to rent the boat for half a day, then every extra body is $30. So one person would pay $500 but three people could split the $575 three ways right? If that's the case then one should certainly tip freely, especially if the guide is cleaning and packaging your fish!
I used to refuse tips from wakeboarders' (read: kids') parents because I felt that I was just doing my job. So part of me wants to say that if the guide is no good, or the skipper is a RACIST (wow) then I wouldn't tip. You are paying a lot to be there and most people forget that a tip is a reward for great service above and beyond the call of duty.
It's such a grey area. The pimply kid busting his butt and sweating bullets at McDonald's doesn't merit a tip but the busty blonde in the short skirt who takes your coat at Cactus Club and screws up your drink order feels entitled to a large tip just because she won the genetic poker tournament?
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most people forget that a tip is a reward for great service above and beyond the call of duty.
I was under the impression that a 10-15% tip is just "customary"/expected, regardless of the service.
That being said, I've left no tip/a p!ss poor tip for horrid service (e.g. making our party wait 30 minutes for a bill while also screwing up orders and being relatively unfriendly) and will tip freely for exceptional service if I feel the "customary" percentage is not enough. Haha, reminds me of that scene in Reservoir Dogs...
Back to tipping on charters.
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I think every time you make a post on Fishing with Rod, you should tip the website owner 10 cents... Just think how much time he invests in sitting here, late at night or early morning, reading through each post to make sure they follow the guidelines, risking work-related illness like obesity... :o
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I think every time you make a post on Fishing with Rod, you should tip the website owner 10 cents... Just think how much time he invests in sitting here, late at night or early morning, reading through each post to make sure they follow the guidelines, risking work-related illness like obesity... :o
Rodney's the skipper, I'm the one doing all the grunt work around here! TIP ME!!!
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I think every time you make a post on Fishing with Rod, you should tip the website owner 10 cents... Just think how much time he invests in sitting here, late at night or early morning, reading through each post to make sure they follow the guidelines, risking work-related illness like obesity... :o
I dont think nina would let you let yourself go. Ive seen your videos...and know who wears the pants :P
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I've been checking out the guiding websites, and need a little clarification. I used to coach wakeboarding and we charged per head, not for the boat. So when a guiding service charges $500 for 1 person, $530 for 2, $575 for 3 etc. etc. That's total right? You're essentially paying $500 to rent the boat for half a day, then every extra body is $30. So one person would pay $500 but three people could split the $575 three ways right? If that's the case then one should certainly tip freely, especially if the guide is cleaning and packaging your fish!
I used to refuse tips from wakeboarders' (read: kids') parents because I felt that I was just doing my job. So part of me wants to say that if the guide is no good, or the skipper is a RACIST (wow) then I wouldn't tip. You are paying a lot to be there and most people forget that a tip is a reward for great service above and beyond the call of duty.
It's such a grey area. The pimply kid busting his butt and sweating bullets at McDonald's doesn't merit a tip but the busty blonde in the short skirt who takes your coat at Cactus Club and screws up your drink order feels entitled to a large tip just because she won the genetic poker tournament?
Yes, those numbers advertised are total. It costs a certain amount of money to fire up the boat and each extra guy only adds incremental cost.
And I agree 100% no tip for a guide that acts like a jerk. The good news is most of the guys on the water love what they do and want you to have a good time.
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I think every time you make a post on Fishing with Rod, you should tip the website owner 10 cents... Just think how much time he invests in sitting here, late at night or early morning, reading through each post to make sure they follow the guidelines, risking work-related illness like obesity... :o
If people really knows what Rodney does at 2:00 in the morning ;D
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Lots of funny posts but do what you can afford..... I do at least 20% of the total but I somewhat can afford that and so can the guys in my party, plus I only chose a guide who I know will get me on fish to the best of his ability. I have done my research which everyone should do if you have the time and I havent been disappointed. Rod up it to 50 cents a post brother and all the mods get paid too!!!
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If people really knows what Rodney does at 2:00 in the morning ;D
I'm hearing the evidence is showing. :)
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No different than a restraunt or anything else.
I realize that a guide can't guarantee fish in comparison to getting a great meal from a restraunt, but if the guide isn't professional.....there would be 0 tip.
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Im a full time guide and see all sorts of tips throughout the year... doesnt matter what I get for a tip as it is always a bonus.... people feel obligated nowadays to tip but really it is to your discretion... dont feel bad if you cant afford a big tip...trips cost a lot of money but are typically worth it...the way I would base a tip is Attitude of guide, is he or she always positive, did you have a good time despite the fishing could be slow.is the tackle and equipment clean and professional. is the boat in good operating form and clean. and of course if fishing was good... In our company we bust our butts to catch fish so that means lot of extra time getting bait, buying bait and scouting if we havent been out for a few days....a typical 8 hour day for our clients is a 12 hour day for the guides....
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I am paying for the guides equipment, knowledge of the quarry, and timely knowledge of the water.
If they meet this expectation then I give 10%. If they don't I give nothing. If they exceed then it depends on how much. I gave a $400 tip for my sturgeon-of-a-lifetime but that was a special situation.
Spending all day looking for fish, bringing crappy bait, sitting for hours in the same spot with only whitefish hitting the bait, broken or non-functional gear will all result in no tip.
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Also forgot to mention a very positive (gifted to me) river trip. Had not previously met the guide and really knew nothing of him. By the end of that day I'd all but forgotten any professional relationship, it was more like out fishing with a buddy, except he would not fish. Even though he had donated his time equipment etc. he still treated me as a paying customer, put me on fish and gave of tips and knowhow . The type of folk that should be in the industry and I'm sure he still would be had it not been for tragedy.
Back to tipping and gratuities.
we need to separate the wages/fees from the tips/ gratuities.
wages are the deal you made before hand, the tip is for above and beyond performance. fish? bonus!
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Im a full time guide and see all sorts of tips throughout the year... doesnt matter what I get for a tip as it is always a bonus....
Good to know that I don't need to tip if I come fishing with you next time. ;D
Do people tip owner/operators? Most owner/operators who I fish with are friends/colleagues and it would feel pretty awkward/disrespectful if I were to tip them.
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Lots of funny posts but do what you can afford..... I do at least 20% of the total but I somewhat can afford that and so can the guys in my party, plus I only chose a guide who I know will get me on fish to the best of his ability. I have done my research which everyone should do if you have the time and I havent been disappointed. Rod up it to 50 cents a post brother and all the mods get paid too!!!
We need a "LIKE" button ;)
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Good to know that I don't need to tip if I come fishing with you next time. ;D
Do people tip owner/operators? Most owner/operators who I fish with are friends/colleagues and it would feel pretty awkward/disrespectful if I were to tip them.
In cases like that, if you're fishing with someone you know... "Here's a little something to help with the gas" or somesuch? "Hey - dinners on me tonight" perhaps.
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In cases like that, if you're fishing with someone you know... "Here's a little something to help with the gas" or somesuch? "Hey - dinners on me tonight" perhaps.
been there, caused all sorts of problems, due to someone being an hole. buddy and a couple of others went to the T, I paid the gas as we not only traveled in his truck I also transported some equipment to Spences' for my work, buddy was accused of guiding. when is a guide not a guide? been debated over and over.
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been there, caused all sorts of problems, due to someone being an hole. buddy and a couple of others went to the T, I paid the gas as we not only traveled in his truck I also transported some equipment to Spences' for my work, buddy was accused of guiding. when is a guide not a guide? been debated over and over.
Sandy, I was referring to the situation when a paid guided fishing trip is involved, not fishing with friends/colleagues who are guides.
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Sandy, I was referring to the situation when a paid guided fishing trip is involved, not fishing with friends/colleagues who are guides.
sorry for the confusion Rod.
My intention was only as a general heads up, in that my situation, buddy was also guide, but on this occasion we were all just buddies going fishing, but aparently there is/was a question on how to diffrentiate the guides time, legaly. Can a guide ever fish for pleasure? can you pay your share of expences on a trip that includes someone whom is a guide elsewhere, without fear of being accused of illegal guiding or hiring a guide illegaly?
Also very aware that there is problems on some systems of illegal guiding. Where's the balance ?sorry a way off topic .
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My views on tipping are similar to those of Mr. pink from Resovoir Dogs, especially when it comes to fishing guides!
They get paid to do a job they love so why should they be paid more money when you have already dropped big coin for the trip?
I paint houses for a living and once had an elderly lady hand me 20 dollars because she was happy with the work, right away I handed it back thanked her and told her she had already paid and there was no need for tips. If she had offered a cool beverage I would have gladly accepted.
Guess I'm just a cheapskate.
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We always tip $20 a fish pain and simple. ;)
Fish that we keep that is. So the limit on springs was two fish when we last went, and one halibut. (I would not tip that much per fish if we had hooked up with 30 fish for a catch and release fishing trip on a river lets say. Would be around $100-$150 tip for a day like that. ) We have never been out with anyone that's not been more then nice to us and tried their best to get us into fish. To tell you the truth we do most of our fishing without a Charter, but we do like to go over to westcoast with one at times.
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Finnish guys dont like tipping ;D
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Im a full time guide and see all sorts of tips throughout the year... doesnt matter what I get for a tip as it is always a bonus.... people feel obligated nowadays to tip but really it is to your discretion... dont feel bad if you cant afford a big tip...trips cost a lot of money but are typically worth it...the way I would base a tip is Attitude of guide, is he or she always positive, did you have a good time despite the fishing could be slow.is the tackle and equipment clean and professional. is the boat in good operating form and clean. and of course if fishing was good... In our company we bust our butts to catch fish so that means lot of extra time getting bait, buying bait and scouting if we havent been out for a few days....a typical 8 hour day for our clients is a 12 hour day for the guides....
I work 12 hr shifts and dont get tips.Would love to get paid to fish. Your paid to do a job properly, so to me it dont matter your working 12 hrs to provide 8 hrs fishing time.Thats your job. Most guides are working hard to put you on fish,if they dont they wont be in business long.I would say tip whatever your comfortable with as this fella says its a bonus.
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I was under the impression that a 10-15% tip is just "customary"/expected, regardless of the service.
Surely tipping is a form of feedback for guides or any staff really? If customers always give 10-15% tip regardless then guides will get lazy and not try to improve their service. If customers give 0 tip for bad service guides will immediately think what did I do wrong obviously this customer is not happy next time I should make more effort to be friendly / professional / clean my boat / give up my honey hole etc etc
I had a guide once that spent most of the day fishing himself and barely spoke to us at all. I still gave him 15% because we caught fish but on reflection I should of given 5% or even zero really.
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I'd say $100 bucks minimum is polite
I'd say you are a guide.
Tipping should be made illegal.
If you like the service, tell your friends. Come again.
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Tips = To Ensure Prompt Service
Seems like everyone expects a tip these days for doing their jobs. They even have tip jars at self serve gas stations
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Everyone DOES expect a tip in our culture, and I think service industry salaries reflect that. For that reason we usually tip, unless the service is terrible. I consider the tip a part of the cost, and if I cannot afford the service+tip, I simply do not purchase the service. :-\ When I have used the services of a fishing guide, I have never been disappointed. They have all been great guys who have worked hard to make sure we had fun, and educate us along the way.
That being said, I sure do enjoy traveling in places like Japan, where the taxes are already included in the price and tipping is not the norm. It is soo simple...the price is the price. Heck, I've even had a restaurant owner chase me down the street to return money I "forgot" in his restaurant. :o
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I take trips on the the Fraser 2-3 times a year with different guides. I have had my share of lack luster guides though. I can tell when a guide is being professional and working hard to provide the best fishing experience possible and the ones more interested in fishing and catching fish for themselves. I don't go at a restuarant and order food to have the server sit down and eat with me . I tip 100- 150 for a great guide who is professional and as many referrals as possible and zip to the other .
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I've only ever fished with one guide on the stamp no reason to try another. From this sounds like I may be under tipping as he gives me good deal I only give average 50 per head.