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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: chris gadsden on March 26, 2012, 02:47:27 PM
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John van Dongen long time BC Liberal has left the party and is joining the BC Conservatives.
Another nail in the coffin of the BC Liberal Party and Christy?
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Another nail in the coffin of the BC Liberal Party and Christy?
(http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif) (http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif) One can certainly HOPE Chris!! ;D
Cheers,
Nog
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and adrian dix was caught on skytrain without a ticket, thats the kind of leader we need.
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and adrian dix was caught on skytrain without a ticket, thats the kind of leader we need.
;D
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Do you really believe the man who wants to be Premier would intentionally fare-jump? How many other politicians are even riding Sky train?
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and adrian dix was caught on skytrain without a ticket, thats the kind of leader we need.
And then the leader of John's new party got fined for fishing during a closed time but that is another story. ::)
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Seems funny that van dongen and barrypenner both resign.must be something going on behind the scenes.
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For some time the speculation has been that the Premier was the insider leak behind the sale of BC Rail. http://alexgtsakumis.com/2012/03/22/exclusive-during-rcmp-surveillance-of-dave-basi-deputy-premier-christy-clark-was-in-the-cross-hairs-of-the-rcmps-special-o-twice-how-does-this-square-with-the-crowns-and-premier-clarks-d/ (http://alexgtsakumis.com/2012/03/22/exclusive-during-rcmp-surveillance-of-dave-basi-deputy-premier-christy-clark-was-in-the-cross-hairs-of-the-rcmps-special-o-twice-how-does-this-square-with-the-crowns-and-premier-clarks-d/) This would be a serious breach of the oath of office if true.
van Dongen makes a veiled reference to this in a following interview pledging to have his lawyer look into it.http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/03/26/bc-van-dongen-to-conservatives.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/03/26/bc-van-dongen-to-conservatives.html)
I'm little more than an armchair political pundit but it seems as if this story and some facts may soon be coming out, either privately or through an NDP-led enquiry if and when.
Better to jump ship and hope that none sticks to you when the story does break.
Cummins should be careful whom he lets into the fold because these "insiders" likely knew what was going on long ago and didn't say boo until it became clear that attempts at cover-up were going to be unsuccessful.
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Politics is dirty business.
Parties throwing mud pies at each other.
Then same members within a party hide the knives to eventually stab each other in the back.
I trust Christy Clarke .
My gut feeling.
Adrian Dix not paying fare ! Not a very good sign of character. Stealing a million or not paying fare is cheating the system & we the people.
Free loader.
Mind you I'm still partying since hearing shifty eyes plastic smile Gordo left the scene. :D
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Politics is dirty business.
Parties throwing mud pies at each other.
Then same members within a party hide the knives to eventually stab each other in the back.
I trust Christy Clarke .
My gut feeling.
Adrian Dix not paying fare ! Not a very good sign of character. Stealing a million or not paying fare is cheating the system & we the people.
Free loader.
Mind you I'm still partying since hearing shifty eyes plastic smile Gordo left the scene. :D
I guess Christy resigns next.
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and adrian dix was caught on skytrain without a ticket, thats the kind of leader we need.
Fry him for losing his ticket! My post is sarcasm... hoping your is too.
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Do you really believe the man who wants to be Premier would intentionally fare-jump?
Yup!
Look at his record.....
He committed fraud when he forged a memo in an attempt to cover up Glen Clarke's illegal deeds.
And now this ......http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120326/bc_adrian_dix_skytrain_warning_120326/20120326/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome (http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120326/bc_adrian_dix_skytrain_warning_120326/20120326/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome)
This is a Dix character trait, not a couple of missteps!
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and adrian dix was caught on skytrain without a ticket, thats the kind of leader we need.
He should have been given a ticket and not a warning
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Unreal that people actually think like this in the face of the most corrupt government ever! Also shocking is the 30% of people in BC who still have faith in this unethical government gongshow. FYI, I have never voted NDP. The guy LOST his ticket. He said he bought one and you don't believe him, I do. He admitted to backdating a memo and resigned. That was wrong and also many years ago. Not as long ago as the fraudulent sale of BC rail, however, or numerous other liberal misdeeds that far outweigh LOSING a transit ticket.
Yup!
Look at his record.....
He committed fraud when he forged a memo in an attempt to cover up Glen Clarke's illegal deeds.
And now this ......http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120326/bc_adrian_dix_skytrain_warning_120326/20120326/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome (http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120326/bc_adrian_dix_skytrain_warning_120326/20120326/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome)
This is a Dix character trait, not a couple of missteps!
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A rudder will turn a big ship...
A little tongue will create big fires...
A dis- honest / self serving leader will make bad decisions...
The leader will be the one who directs how a party will perform.
A leader with a bad heart will be bad for the province ( look what bad leaders did in history...hitler etc)
The Liberals of the present ,in my opinion have a leader that has a good heart & character !!!
Christy Clarke.
She already has said that this province has to live in it's means or in a controlled budget.
Not give in to " give us more $$$$" from so many squeaky wheels.
She has said that tax payers are maxed out as is.
( she's not given in to 15% salary increase demands of the teachers...not given in to more gas cost increases for transit...not given in to new levies on veicles )
If ya do not want your taxes to sky rocket vote for Christy. ;)
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I guess Christy resigns next.
Yup, she was set up the sacrificial lamb or old ewe, I doubt the puppet master ever really intended for her to be at the lead when the next election came around. She was placed there as token lib.
As for Van Dongen, As quill said, He full new full well what was going on, and basically kept quiet until opportunity arose that was in his ,not the peoples benefit. He need not wrap the sheet of purity around himself, as I think most see through it.
As Christee, Although been well schooled in politics, she seemed to learn little, she really never has carried enough clout within.
hands up , who has lost a boarding pass ,movie ticket or what ? stupid but it happens there are accidents and then there are the real evaders.
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http://thetyee.ca/News/2012/03/26/Van-Dongen-Defects/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=270312
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http://alexgtsakumis.com/2012/03/27/the-real-story-of-the-vandongen-resignation-christy-clark-hides-to-avoid-basi-virk-tipping-point-while-her-media-friends-message-pure-lies-and-spin/
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Swim,rat , SWIM! The (not so ) Good Ship Conservative is right there!
Try looking at Van Dongen's record on the fish farm file (and the tips he gave the before approving expansion). And that's just a little of the mud and boogers he swims in.
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A rudder will turn a big ship...
A little tongue will create big fires...
A dis- honest / self serving leader will make bad decisions...
Yep - BC Rail leaps out front. Associations with known gangsters, etc. You want a load of more stuff?
The leader will be the one who directs how a party will perform.
A leader with a bad heart will be bad for the province ( look what bad leaders did in history...hitler etc)
While I find Adrian Dix to not have been the best choice, I find it a stretch to see Hitler in him.That's a pretty repugnant statement for anyone with Jewish bloodlines, like I have.
The Liberals of the present ,in my opinion have a leader that has a good heart & character !!!
Christy Clarke ::)
She already has said that this province has to live in it's means or in a controlled budget.
Not give in to " give us more $$$$" from so many squeaky wheels.
Have you checked out the raises given to the executive class? Read this and defend it while the paramedics got sand kicked in their face and a whopping $2 an hour standby rate.:
http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/20120106/KAMLOOPS0101/120109859/-1/KAMLOOPS/iha-finds-savings-despite-senior-management-raises
She has said that tax payers are maxed out as is.
( she's not given in to 15% salary increase demands of the teachers...not given in to more gas cost increases for transit...not given in to new levies on veicles ) That's called stalling. There isn't even a date set to audit Translink. Yep, she's a peach.
If ya do not want your taxes to sky rocket vote for Christy. ;)
Yes indeed- just MSP premiums, executive salaries ., sneaky "fees", etc.
Try again. That was pretty easy pickings.
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"The Liberals of the present ,in my opinion have a leader that has a good heart & character !!!?
??? ??? ???
Uhh... ok... not even sure how to respond to such an interesting opinion. Novabonker beat me to the obvious stuff so I will leave it at that.
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The Liberals of the present ,in my opinion have a leader that has a good heart & character !!!
Christy Clarke.
If ya do not want your taxes to sky rocket vote for Christy. ;)
I'll add my opinion that you are totally out of touch with reality.
Besides the fact that Christy Clarke should be in jail and not our premier, a tax increase wouldn't kill us.
Between corporate taxes and personal taxes, it wouldn't take much of an increase to help things out.
I think that this province can increase taxes slightly to improve services.
Do you know what your provincal tax rate is?
6.38% on income up to $74,000.
BC tax rates are the lowest in the country: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html
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I'll add my opinion that you are totally out of touch with reality.
I think that this province can increase taxes slightly to improve services.
Do you know what your provincal tax rate is?
6.38% on income up to $74,000.
BC tax rates are the lowest in the country: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html
I'd like to meet you..... I could put you in the category of the first person I've met that likes to pay more taxes. ;D
Too bad there aren't more folks like you..... it would make government work a breeze. ::)
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RAFE HERE – A Short blog … please pass it on.
God knows I carry no brief for John Van Dongen. He was a terrible minister who bears the responsibility for the plague of fish farms we have slaughtering our wild salmon. His public pronouncements on the subject were straight from the Fish Farmers manual. H forgave and paid back all the fines assessed against the fish farmers and warned them when inspectors were coming over, which he had to resign from cabinet.
But Rich Coleman has disgraced himself and shown himself to be utterly untrustworthy. Here was Coleman telling how Van Dongen confided in him, over considerable time, and then discloses not only this fact but that Van Dongen was unburdening himself over his troubled private life. It’s hard to find words to use in describing such perfidy. The worst part is that he used these confidential revelations to pillory Van Dongen for party political purposes.
I’ve had my share of marital problems as I daresay have many of you. I have confided my grief – and indeed guilt – to a friend I trusted. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if that person were to make these confidential disclosures public.
Rich Coleman, who so obviously is after Christy Clark’s job, if he has a soupcon of morality in his soul, owes Mr Van Dongen a public ands fulsome apology.
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I cannot believe that Vaughn Palmer, in today’s Sun, says that NDP leader Adrian Dix, on receiving a warning for not having a Skytrain ticket, should have given out a press release!
I have no idea whether or not Dix is telling the truth about not having a ticket but, of critical importance is the fact that the Skytrain “police” believed him.
Mr Dix has had credibility problems in the past and the voters will judge those in due course. I was much disappointed in his lack of forthrightness in the interview I had with him.
My political Axiom 2 says “you don’t have to be a 10 in politics – you can be a 3 if everyone else is a 2. For me, at present, Dix is a 3 in a sea of 2s.
For Palmer to suggest that being let off with a warning requires a press release tells me that he’s concerned that recently he has, ever so slightly, fallen off the Liberal wagon and is trying to make amends.
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UPDATE - George Abbott and Kevin "Costello" Falcon were seen lingering near the lifeboats of the (Bill) Good ship Titanic Liberal.
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I'd like to meet you..... I could put you in the category of the first person I've met that likes to pay more taxes. ;D
Too bad there aren't more folks like you..... it would make government work a breeze. ::)
I don't care who you are - THAT THERE IS REAL FUNNY!!!
Weren't you the individual that was heaping praise on the HST? Is there a river close by? I think all the fish in the barrel are shot. Sprinkle some more hypocrisy on your corn flakes AF. ;D ;D
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I don't care who you are - THAT THERE IS REAL FUNNY!!!
Weren't you the individual that was heaping praise on the HST? Is there a river close by? I think all the fish in the barrel are shot. Sprinkle some more hypocrisy on your corn flakes AF. ;D ;D
What's funny is that you apparently don't recognize sarcasm ...... ;D ;D
The roll eyes ::) emoticon will always give you your biggest clue.
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I do think there's 100 million or so that won't reach into the average citizen's pocket by reversing Carol Taylor's last gift tax break to banks. ( funny how she got a plum job within the banking sector right after ::))The banks pay jack spit in income taxes so the corporate capital tax is a gimme. Also, a 1% raise in the corporate tax rate, claw back a little on the UPPER LEVELS of income tax pay a little more and pretty soon we're talking real money.
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I remember the police going into the legislature to investigate a crime:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Legislature_Raids
Christie dropped out of politics no doubt told to leave because there was a good chance she was going to be arrested. But as usual our laws seem or do protect the criminals more than the victims. As an added bonus and a salute to William Shatners "wierd or what" she now is the premier of lotusland. That other nut bar van Dongen is ripe to cut his ear off.
If your more comfortable with Christie than maybe the NDP good on ya. Your truely lotusland material.
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Another low in the House today. :-[
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/04/16/bc-harry-bloy-apology.html
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NDP take an early lead in Chilliwack Hope by a sizeable margin.
The end of the Liberals in sight now?
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Lib's getting thrashed in Coquitlam.
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Not surprising given the history of by- elections in this province
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Not surprising given the history of by- elections in this province
Not in Chilliwack, what an upset if Gwen holds on with Liberals heading to the bone yard for sure in a year's time. ;D
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Yes. http://electionsbcenr.blob.core.windows.net/electionsbcenr/BY-CHH-2012-04-19_Candidate.html
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From Christy
http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2009-2013/2012PREM0047-000509.htm
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One thing that kind of fascinates about the relationship between the BC Liberals and the media is the treatment of the BC Ferry Corp, in the late 90's every time one of the fast ferries sucked up a piece of bark or created a wave it was front page news railing about what a bad investment these boats were. Now one of our German made ships smokes the dock in Duke Point creating havoc at all other ferry docks on the Island and costing the economy of Vancouver Island countless millions of dollars we hear nothing about what caused it. Now , I'm pretty sure that if it was the fault of the captain or some other employee (the government loves to bash it's "overpaid employees") we would have heard plenty about it by now.
So that leaves mechanical error as the main suspect, but the BC newspapers seem to be leaving it totally alone completely, if this is some sort of cover up to protect the BC Ferry Corp from more bad press it seems the media here has bought into it completely.
As for Last nights by elections, it really doesn't matter whether the vote was split or not Gwen still got a higher percentage of the vote than our Prime Minister did in the last federal election, congratulations are in order!!
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The BC media regularly sides with the BC Liberal government.
The Liberals have found ways to get the main players on their side by offering employment to them or their spouses.
Check out this site - lots of dirt on the Liberals and media: http://alexgtsakumis.com/
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Bring back Glen Clark!
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Didn't he do enough damage the first time ? ;)
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http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/04/24/Clark-Slippery-Footing/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=240412