Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fishingbuddha on December 20, 2011, 08:47:32 PM
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Was fishing my favourite steelhead river this last weekend. Buddy hooked into two at the first hole. Trying something different i put on a gulp sandshrimp and on the first cast hooked into a steelie. Ended up being the largest steelhead i have caught in 19 years on this river. Over 20 lbs easy! Was very surprised to catch this fish o. A rubber sandshrimp. Will try again in the future!
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great!
what color did you use?
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Pink with some glutter and a lighter belly
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvzojOJ_llg&feature=related
Seems like this fish had one of those in him.... and much, much more :o
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did you use a jig with the sand shrimp
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i have caught a few on plastic ghost shrimp, in the pink colour. they work pretty good and work when nothin else is working and theve seen everything.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvzojOJ_llg&feature=related
Seems like this fish had one of those in him.... and much, much more :o
Thanks for the link.
Comes to show that steelhead are nothing but glorified water pigs that will eat anything you put in front of their noses, even cigarette butts.
The trick is in finding them and putting the presentation right in front of them.
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That was one greedy fish.
My concern lies in the fact that Steelhead have the ability to survive the spawning cycle and live to go back to ocean and return again. If we're offering them plastic, and it breaks off to stay inside them - will it plug their digestive tract and kill them. Hooks can dissolve in their mouths and digestive tracts. Small amounts of wool can pass through. But a synthetic shrimp??
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That was one greedy fish.
My concern lies in the fact that Steelhead have the ability to survive the spawning cycle and live to go back to ocean and return again. If we're offering them plastic, and it breaks off to stay inside them - will it plug their digestive tract and kill them. Hooks can dissolve in their mouths and digestive tracts. Small amounts of wool can pass through. But a synthetic shrimp??
I stopped using gooey bobs for steelhead years ago for this exact reason.
Plastic worms might make it out but a strawberry-sized chunk of rubber probably wont.
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One time i opened up a trout from a river and it had 2 gulp like rubber fish in it's stomach but nothing like that steelhead in the video.
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that video is pretty nuts. I usually use natural baits but if you think about it...when a steelhead mends and goes back in the ocean, the odds for it to survive basically start over again. If say 1% of the juvenile fish return [and usually less than that do] ... say of 100,000 - that's only 1,000 fish or less. Then when that fish goes back, he has basically a 1 in 100 chance he will survive to come back and spawn a second time. So it's kind of a damned either way deal...that being said there are monster fish still caught that are likely repeat offenders, but you rarely hear of them. my 0.02
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that video is pretty nuts. I usually use natural baits but if you think about it...when a steelhead mends and goes back in the ocean, the odds for it to survive basically start over again. If say 1% of the juvenile fish return [and usually less than that do] ... say of 100,000 - that's only 1,000 fish or less. Then when that fish goes back, he has basically a 1 in 100 chance he will survive to come back and spawn a second time. So it's kind of a damned either way deal...that being said there are monster fish still caught that are likely repeat offenders, but you rarely hear of them. my 0.02
Hi Fishhunter - I like the thought you've put into this but feel the logic is bit flawed. When flipping a coin, the odds are 50/50 each time that you'll get heads. Even if you've flipped tails 199 times in a row, the odds of getting heads on the next flip are again 50/50. With that in mind, when a fish returns to the ocean for a second time, they are 1 in the 100,000 again and maybe wiser than most of the others. (likely older and weaker, but still 1 in 100,000 again not 1 in 100)
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Hi Fishhunter - I like the thought you've put into this but feel the logic is bit flawed. When flipping a coin, the odds are 50/50 each time that you'll get heads. Even if you've flipped tails 199 times in a row, the odds of getting heads on the next flip are again 50/50. With that in mind, when a fish returns to the ocean for a second time, they are 1 in the 100,000 again and maybe wiser than most of the others. (likely older and weaker, but still 1 in 100,000 again not 1 in 100)
ooh yeah I see what you mean, I just meant the juvi steelhead have a 1% chance of returning as adults, so when they mend and go back to sea the adult steelhead also have the same 1% chance to come and spawn a second time
I just meant the 1 in 100 is the same as 1000 fish coming back as adults from a juvenile release of 100,000 fish
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Great point guys, thank you. I will consider that, espicially when other baits work just as well
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About the plastics.. I think the Berkeley products are designed to break down over time outside of the digestive tract; if so, then they will break down much more quickly in the stomach.
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About the plastics.. I think the Berkeley products are designed to break down over time outside of the digestive tract; if so, then they will break down much more quickly in the stomach.
yes, that is also mentioned in their advertising.
no difference between that shrimp and that 6" plastic worm.