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Title: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: troutbreath on October 16, 2011, 09:12:54 PM
Maybe I missed some other options? ::)


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Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: troutbreath on October 16, 2011, 09:18:07 PM
I just looked and there are 97 guests and 53 users scouring the next place to hoard onto.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: colin6101 on October 16, 2011, 09:19:01 PM
Honestly the majority of the reports are on very well known rivers with hatcheries. If someone wants to let everyone know how well they did fishing these rivers then I don't really see a problem with it at all. Over the last couple years I have been exploring many of the smaller systems that the lower mainland has to offer and have been doing quite well. However I almost never see other people fishing these systems or see reports on them and that's the way it should be. I say keep the report section but I really hope that people use their common sense and only report on well known systems.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: DanJohn on October 16, 2011, 09:25:49 PM
Voted to leave it. Because, well its Rodneys site. If he wants to shut it down, he will. If not, then report away! But I dont understand how guests are viewing it. It should only view to subscribers and people who contribute enough to not be randoms.


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Yup. Thats viewing the forum in IE and not being logged in. With a specific thread link... I get the same thing. I dont think guests can view anything on that board.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Nina on October 16, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
But I dont understand how guests are viewing it. It should only view to subscribers and people who contribute enough to not be randoms.

It is.

And remember, this is not a democracy  ;)
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Matt on October 16, 2011, 09:57:01 PM
I voted "keep it and moderate it".  Nothing wrong with a Vedder/ Fraser/ Stave report, because these systems are already very well known, but smaller/sensitive systems shouldn't be pimped on the internet.  If someone maybe new to the sport posts something specific without having given thought to the repercussions, I think the mods should edit the name out of the posting.  I don't think theres inherently anything wrong with writing a tasteful report.  If it were up to me, I'd like to see reports that didn't name locations, ie:  

I fished a local flow today, arrived at first light caught nothing until 10am (7hrs after the high tide), the bite came on and I had four on wool in no time.  Fishing slowed down until I switched to a gold blade, and i hit three more.  Springs were holding in the head of the pools and coho seemed to be hanging out in the tailouts and up tight against the far shore.  Was a great day, and it was peaceful and enjoyable because I didn't post what rock to stand on on the internet.

A report like this is helpful (shows experimenting can lead to fish), and is enjoyable to read and most importantly, doesn't trigger a frenzy of activity at any particular location.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: jizza on October 16, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
I voted "keep it and moderate it".  Nothing wrong with a Vedder/ Fraser/ Stave report, because these systems are already very well known, but smaller/sensitive systems shouldn't be pimped on the internet.  I don't think theres inherently anything wrong with writing a tasteful report.  If it were up to me, I'd like to see reports that didn't name locations, ie:  

I fished a local flow today, arrived at first light caught nothing until 10am (7hrs after the high tide), the bite came on and I had four on wool in no time.  Fishing slowed down until I switched to a gold blade, and i hit three more.  Springs were holding in the head of the pools and coho seemed to be hanging out in the tailouts and up tight against the far shore.  Was a great day, and it was peaceful and enjoyable because I didn't post what rock to stand on on the internet.

A report like this is helpful (shows experimenting can lead to fish), and is enjoyable to read and most importantly, doesn't trigger a frenzy of activity at any particular location.
I agree there's no problem with the fishing report as long as the posts are moderated and that known systems are general ( vedder, stave) and not specific locations ( keith wilson, boulder hole ) are indicated.
Blame the fishermen that told their friends that told their co- workers thats told their neighbours that told their kids that told the fishermen that already knew and not FWR report site.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Joey on October 16, 2011, 10:39:26 PM
Please do not shut down the fishing report.It is like a bible to me.I read it in the morning and again before I sleep.Please tell me where the location that has fish and I promise not to go there  ;D ;D


joey  
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: silver ghost on October 16, 2011, 10:43:13 PM
No matter what we vote Rod isn't going to get rid of the reports section. But I think there should be a rule that no small systems are names, and if there is a report on them the name of the river should be edited...

IMO naming even the well known rivers does no justice as it will only make the problem worse and people will spread from the already overpopulated spots to the less explored spots, making the entire river a clown show
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: the carp on October 16, 2011, 11:52:37 PM
the reports should stay, they are interesting reading and really don't divulge any secrets, the local tackle shops give out far more info than this forum, and lets not forget those pesky cel. phones that i see just about every angler using as soon as they catch a fish informing their buddies of their location. Besides i would miss chris and rods journals too much
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: holmes on October 17, 2011, 01:01:47 AM
shut down the reports section?, lmfao, ya rite, u have to be kidding.....holmes*
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Matt on October 17, 2011, 02:58:25 AM
It is.

And remember, this is not a democracy  ;)

Next pole: should FWR democratize?
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: chris gadsden on October 17, 2011, 04:33:11 AM
the reports should stay, they are interesting reading and really don't divulge any secrets, the local tackle shops give out far more info than this forum, and lets not forget those pesky cel. phones that i see just about every angler using as soon as they catch a fish informing their buddies of their location. Besides i would miss chris and rods journals too much
You are correct, life is too short to worry about it, we that are in our 6th and 7th decade know that. ;D We are in a new age of social networking so lets just enjoy it while we can.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: EZ_Rolling on October 17, 2011, 07:10:16 AM
sounds like someone went to check out Rods spot and found there were too many other people there doing the same.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: ffonly on October 17, 2011, 09:29:41 AM
The 5 w's of the report is up to the responsibility of the reporters. Water clarity, access points, road conditions, water levels etc... becomes a great one stop resource with real time applicability. Trophy shots et al. should be placed in the contest section.

The fishing report section only becomes "pesky" when it becomes too revealing thus overloading what may be an already overloaded system.

Be helpful, be considerate and part of the solution.

"those that can, do; those that can't, criticize"

Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Athezone on October 17, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
Rodney's a smart guy and will do what he think's is in the best interest's of FWR. Frankly I'm with Chris on this one. Having just turned
55 and having fished for the majority of those years there's not to many spots nor the timing needed for them that I'm not aware of.
Every year, like the changing seasons I know what should be where due to practice and routine and if it's not, then I hike and explore until I find what I need.

But I would most assuredly, like everyone else here miss Chris's Journal and Rod's wonderful report's and video's. FWR's has been and will continue to be the Best fishing site anywhere and will continue to aid and educate the young and poorly informed on techniques with or without the fishing report.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: azafai on October 17, 2011, 10:53:47 AM


fishing reports should continue the same as are now.

pictures and videos are more appreciated.

no need to be that selfish about spots that are already so obvious to everyone.

go walk and wade and find your "solitude."   I wish you good luck for that in Vedder/Chilliwack.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Ed on October 17, 2011, 12:01:23 PM
Keep the fishing reports going! The river belongs to everybody, and i'm sure the ones who do have decent spots woke up extra early to get it. If you're complaining about overcrowding at specific locations, then go find a new fishing spot with less people or even drive farther away from the city so there are no problems with crowding at all.

Fishing with Rod is hands down the best fishing website/forum for fishing information/education/sharing experiences/etc and there is no need to change the website for specific people who care so much to whine about their spots being taken. Unless you buy a river side property and the land becomes "private" ownership, then anybody can fish that spot.

Like I said, i've used this website for many years, only thing i wish I could do is subscribe to this page but I've had some problems with Paypal in the past so I am unable to make payment :p. Wish Rod took Visa payments lol.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: bigblue on October 17, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
You are correct, life is too short to worry about it, we that are in our 6th and 7th decade know that. ;D We are in a new age of social networking so lets just enjoy it while we can.

I also view the report section more as an entertainment than to get any serious inside information on juicy fishing spots.
Real information can be gathered more effectively from local tackle shops or talking with experienced anglers on the flow or even at Tim Hortons parking lot.
Some very knowlegable local fisherman will offer information on spots if he thinks you are a decent fisherman who will not abuse the resource.
 
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: RG on October 17, 2011, 01:33:00 PM
I think Rod's weekly update is more than enough information for the average fisherman.  Other than that check the tides( if applicable) and weather before you go out.  Why does one feel the need to read reports everyday that the Vedder is stacked with fish and stacked with even more fishermen in the fall?
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Sandy on October 17, 2011, 01:42:51 PM
Rodney's a smart guy and will do what he think's is in the best interest's of FWR. Frankly I'm with Chris on this one. Having just turned
55 and having fished for the majority of those years there's not to many spots nor the timing needed for them that I'm not aware of.
Every year, like the changing seasons I know what should be where due to practice and routine and if it's not, then I hike and explore until I find what I need.

But I would most assuredly, like everyone else here miss Chris's Journal and Rod's wonderful report's and video's. FWR's has been and will continue to be the Best fishing site anywhere and will continue to aid and educate the young and poorly informed on techniques with or without the fishing report.

well said!

who can in their right mind can expect solitude on a river in the LM? Mr & Mrs Rod & Co.'s posts/blogs are intended to be educational.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: EZ_Rolling on October 17, 2011, 05:30:30 PM
members with zero posts cannot see the report section.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: jon5hill on October 17, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
Many people with less than 50 posts pay Rodney to become a member so they are permitted to see that section of the forum. The sharing of information via fishing reports is done on your own volition. If you don't want to share information, simply don't share information.

The appeal of an exclusive fishing reports section is likely a large part of membership purchases from new users.

I highly doubt Rodney would elect to remove something that is contributing to revenue of his very successful website.

Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: jon5hill on October 17, 2011, 06:41:45 PM
members with zero posts cannot see the report section.

paid members with zero posts can.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: clarki on October 17, 2011, 07:15:33 PM
To paraphrase the oft quoted "Guns don't kill people, people do" adage,  fishing reports don't kill location, people do ;-)
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: salmonlover on October 17, 2011, 07:32:44 PM
nothing funnier than to see grown adults whining
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: troutbreath on October 17, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
To paraphrase the oft quoted "Guns don't kill people, people do" adage,  fishing reports don't kill location, people do ;-)

Can't agree more. Also coming from that 50 plus age I can shuffle along to dem old fishing holes where you might luck into another great trip without the crowd. I also freely share my opinion on the spot I'm at to younger anglers when they are friendly enough.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: bunnta on October 17, 2011, 08:23:21 PM
you don't have to share fishing holes, or post reports. You can't blame rod for doing what he is doing, if there are paying subscribers hes got to atleast give something up for them to keep paying, just part of the job. Once in awhile just naming a river does no harm, sure there are some rivers that do not need pressure but does that entitle you to fish that river alone for yourself? I would get mad if i showed a friend a secret spot and he told someone else but sharing is sharing, can't have the river to yourself for a lifetime.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Joey on October 18, 2011, 07:50:30 AM
The reason my friends and I have so many deadly spots is because we know how to keep our mouths shut. We found them by putting our time in. Fishing reports should be allowed if they are from major systems but anything smaller than the veddar or stave should  not be allowed


Occassionly,the very hot spots is hot today than very cold the next day
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: fishseeker on October 21, 2011, 12:39:02 PM
The reason my friends and I have so many deadly spots is because we know how to keep our mouths shut. We found them by putting our time in. Fishing reports should be allowed if they are from major systems but anything smaller than the vedder or stave should  not be allowed
I sympathize with this view but I have not noticed many people reporting on small fragile systems.  People will resist bragging if it means their treasured spot gets crowded out for their trouble.

Even though I enjoy reading reports I have found that fishing reports do not do much for my success on the river.   Of more interest are things like water condition updates, at least then I can know not to go out to a particular river if it is blown out or too low to provide good fishing opportunities.  If the fishing reports were removed it would not make much difference to me  - just my 2c.
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: Joey on October 22, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
Even though I enjoy reading reports I have found that fishing reports do not do much for my success on the river.   Of more interest are things like water condition updates, at least then I can know not to go out to a particular river if it is blown out or too low to provide good fishing opportunities.  If the fishing reports were removed it would not make much difference to me  - just my 2c.



Yap!I think he is quite right.
But mind you,I read the report,discussion etc just like the holy bible
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: leadbelly on October 27, 2011, 06:45:00 AM
Its an easy fix
Leave the Report section open, could even make it anonymous?
Disable the reply function instead.
If theres interesting reading or good fish porn, awesome.If not no one is being forced to look at it.
People are taking reports waaaay to serious anyway, its not gospel people or any guarantee of catching
just imagine if the complaining masses actually posted the odd report.... there are people who have been on this forum longer than me even ( 3 forum upgrades?) and have NEVER made a report.... yet have opinions on everything lol
just a thought
Title: Re: Should Rodney get rid of that pesky fishing report section
Post by: adriaticum on October 27, 2011, 04:56:55 PM
Rodney could disable the fishing reports.
He could take the whole site down.
He could move to Denmark and become a stamp collector.

I sure hope not!