Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ed on September 26, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
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Kingfisher vs Talisman
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Wow Ed, I wish I had your budget....
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Both are excellent reels. My vote goes to the kingfisher. You get the quality of a milner but less cost. The talisman is made after the Hardy which is what my preference would be if I were to go that route. My 2¢
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Both are excellent reels. My vote goes to the kingfisher. You get the quality of a milner but less cost. The talisman is made after the Hardy which is what my preference would be if I were to go that route. My 2¢
there both made after hardy reels....
I own 6, including a talisman. do you need a talisman? no. a 4 3/8 kingfisher is a nice reel and will suit you fine. unless your a gear whore like me or someone who appreciates a masterpiece of machining like the talisman, you dont need one....most people probably wouldnt even notice the difference in the reels anyways
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there both made after hardy reels....
I own 6, including a talisman. do you need a talisman? no. a 4 3/8 kingfisher is a nice reel and will suit you fine. unless your a gear whore like me or someone who appreciates a masterpiece of machining like the talisman, you dont need one....most people probably wouldnt even notice the difference in the reels anyways
Yeah I really enjoy collecting reels etc. I may just buy a Talisman for now and pick up a Kingfisher in the future. Since the Talisman is only available in bushing should i pick up the bearing version of the kingfisher?
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I have both reels plus the Manx and although I love looking at the Talisman I almost always fish with my Kingfisher. Everything about it is perfect. It's thinner body is more comfortable in my hand and I don't mind laying it on the rocks etc. It's an awesome reel! I would get the bushing.
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I do own a ball bearing kingfisher, I understand the bushing reel is more sound after why is that?
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john has made bearing talismans before....
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I do own a ball bearing kingfisher, I understand the bushing reel is more sound after why is that?
Last time i asked someone, bearings will eventually wear out where as bushing if you maintain it well will last forever!.
What size do you guys use for the kingfisher?
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I have both reels plus the Manx and although I love looking at the Talisman I almost always fish with my Kingfisher. Everything about it is perfect. It's thinner body is more comfortable in my hand and I don't mind laying it on the rocks etc. It's an awesome reel! I would get the bushing.
That makes sense considering that the Talisman has 24k gold on it lol. I do have an islander steelheader that is really durable........ but yeah tough choice!
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Last time i asked someone, bearings will eventually wear out where as bushing if you maintain it well will last forever!.
What size do you guys use for the kingfisher?
4 3/8 !
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i am also in the market for a kingfisher and appreciate the info. my old man fish's a milner yet i have never tryed it or asked him about. i fish with an islander, will i notice a difference between the two?
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i am also in the market for a kingfisher and appreciate the info. my old man fish's a milner yet i have never tryed it or asked him about. i fish with an islander, will i notice a difference between the two?
yes!
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Whats the difference in having a 5" kingfisher, 4 3/8 and a 4" ?
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Whats the difference in having a 5" kingfisher, 4 3/8 and a 4" ?
i noticed different diameters changed my retrieval rates. my 4.5" islander reels in a lot faster than my 4" silex
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I have a bushing 4 3/8 milner and manx 4. Love both. The manx cast a lot better then my bushing milner and both cast miles better then any other cp I have used. The 4 reels in slower but when you have a hot fish on its a lot more fun. The milner clicker growls loud too if your into that.
Get one you will not regret it.
Josh
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I have a bushing 4 3/8 milner and manx 4. Love both. The manx cast a lot better then my bushing milner and both cast miles better then any other cp I have used. The 4 reels in slower but when you have a hot fish on its a lot more fun. The milner clicker growls loud too if your into that.
Get one you will not regret it.
Josh
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I am getting one for sure either the Talisman or Kingfisher. Right now i'm leaning towards the Talisman and if I can get a good deal i dont mind buying both lol.
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also might want to consider that the Talisman is fully caged and the Kingfisher is not. Your line may sometimes come off the side of your spool on the Kingfisher, which can be annoying at times. Whether or not it will make a difference to you... I don't know. The Talisman is also slightly heavier for that reason. Either way, enjoy!
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also might want to consider that the Talisman is fully caged and the Kingfisher is not. Your line may sometimes come off the side of your spool on the Kingfisher, which can be annoying at times. Whether or not it will make a difference to you... I don't know. The Talisman is also slightly heavier for that reason. Either way, enjoy!
Hey thanks for pointing that out... I notice with my islander steelheader the line comes out once in a while. So i'm assuming you are saying that with the Talisman being fully caged that problem is gone?
Also i'm starting to lean more and more towards the Talisman but what are the more popular sizes? the 4" or the 4.5" ?
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Hey thanks for pointing that out... I notice with my islander steelheader the line comes out once in a while. So i'm assuming you are saying that with the Talisman being fully caged that problem is gone?
Also i'm starting to lean more and more towards the Talisman but what are the more popular sizes? the 4" or the 4.5" ?
dang dude just pick one and get it, they are all really nice reels who cares what is more popular? A half inch difference is going to be negligible so just pick a few up and see what feels better. I personally prefer the narrow spool of the Kingfisher to the wider Talisman. Seems to me that the Talisman is more of a collector reel. A lot of the people that I know who have Talisman's use their Kingfishers most of the time
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Why don't you get in touch with John and ask for his sales records to confirm the true popular size?
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Yeah I like to do my research before i buy my thing ;D Just wanted to see if there was any typical preference for sizes for the Talisman.
Was wondering why some prefer using the Kingfisher over the Talisman?
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Good for you for doing research before purchasing. I'll chime in by saying you really can't go wrong with either the Talisman or the Kingfisher. I sold my Islander because it did not have a cage. As Ed has pointed out, it can be annoying when the line comes off the side of the reel. I personally would choose a Talisman but that's me.
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if you get a talisman dont get the 4.5'' its too heavy and just plain too big. 4'' is the size you want.
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if you get a talisman dont get the 4.5'' its too heavy and just plain too big. 4'' is the size you want.
Thnx !
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Thanks for all the advice.. ended up buying a 4" talisman at Berrys. Spoke with John a few times before buying the reel and it is very true that he is a great guy! Answered all my questions and got me really pumped when i pick up my next Milner reel
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I have a bushing 4 3/8 milner and manx 4. Love both. The manx cast a lot better then my bushing milner and both cast miles better then any other cp I have used. The 4 reels in slower but when you have a hot fish on its a lot more fun. The milner clicker growls loud too if your into that.
Get one you will not regret it.
Josh
Hey Josh,
Love that Manx that you have. Really tempting me to try find one too!
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There's a Manx at Freds right now. Be sure to get a Kingfisher for a good all around reel, you can never have to many pins.
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There's a Manx at Freds right now. Be sure to get a Kingfisher for a good all around reel, you can never have to many pins.
Hey I heard that too, but unfortunately I think the one at Fred's is a RH model and i'm a LH user. I will probably pick up a Kingfisher one day after I get the Manx :P. Just wondering any of you know anything about the Labrador? Is it just like the Kingfisher where LH and RH users can use it ?
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You can't go wrong with either, but I prefer the size and feel of my Kingfisher. Used Talisman's before but smaller diameter on the one I was using meant a lot more work reeling my line in.
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Yeah definitely agree that I cant go wrong with either. I dont mind the smaller reel, as the fight gets a little more interesting :) actually planning on finding a manx for my next purchase.