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Title: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: robj on September 03, 2009, 05:27:42 PM
I was driving home from work, past a popular fishing spot on River Road.  See one car parked with a RCMP crusier beside it.  There were 2 guys there, with their fishing rods leaning against the cruiser.  Both of the guys were in handcuffs.  Wondering if the RCMP are now enforcing fisheries?  Drove by that spot and fished it many times during the years and never seen the RCMP checking anyone.  This may be a good warning to make sure you are all legal when fishing for pinks.  I know it is sometimes easy to forget to pinch the barbs.

Have a great day

Rob.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: kaolinite on September 03, 2009, 05:50:17 PM
I also think the RCMP are enforcing the rules, over the past few days iv seen them at my favorite fishing spot. Just looking down at everyone, didnt do anything just watched, no fish were landed tho so maybe if you have caught somthing then they will check you.

as for the barbs i belive all stores in region 2 should be responsible for their product and have none barbless hooks / pinching the products they sell. I see way to many people fishing with the barbs still up, easily over 50% of the people out on the fraser right now have the barbs up
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: poncho on September 03, 2009, 06:02:59 PM
I'm a municipal officer and we do enforcement in regards to sport fishing. It is up to every officer, as there is no real directive to do this.

I usually just check for licences and make sure people aren't keeping sturgeon.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Hook Set on September 03, 2009, 07:18:09 PM
I also think the RCMP are enforcing the rules, over the past few days iv seen them at my favorite fishing spot. Just looking down at everyone, didnt do anything just watched, no fish were landed tho so maybe if you have caught somthing then they will check you.

as for the barbs i belive all stores in region 2 should be responsible for their product and have none barbless hooks / pinching the products they sell. I see way to many people fishing with the barbs still up, easily over 50% of the people out on the fraser right now have the barbs up

Although it would be nice to have stores do this, they simply do not have the time to be spending it doing this, they would need new staff to pinch all those hooks. Also most packages hooks are packaged barbed and therefor the stores can't be opening everything up and pinching.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: dereke on September 03, 2009, 07:36:44 PM
  I have been checked by RCMP at the Mamquam bar for my fishing license before.......
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 03, 2009, 08:38:54 PM
I was checked by a RCMP several weeks ago. A fellow fisherman, so we chatted at length. As to the two guys that were handcuffed I suspect that it's for something more serious than fishing with a barbed hook.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: kaolinite on September 03, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Although it would be nice to have stores do this, they simply do not have the time to be spending it doing this, they would need new staff to pinch all those hooks. Also most packages hooks are packaged barbed and therefor the stores can't be opening everything up and pinching.

Barbs are a industry invention, it is more economical to make all hooks barbed than unbarbed because it fits all fishing industries worldwide. Yes it is more convenient for industry but thats the problem. When people start to get greedy and think of profits before people (or in this case fish) problems are bound to happen.

I'm sure most local stores are passionate about fishing and would welcome the idea of all gear being unbarbed but they would also risk the loss of sales to competing stores that would continue to sell barbed gear so they simply do not change.

profits over everything. hell this site would not exist if it was not making profit.... think about that
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: robj on September 03, 2009, 09:30:44 PM
I don't think that having barbed hooks will get you handcuffed.  But it may have started as a license check and then the Mounty found some other stuff, and out came the cuffs.  Regardless stay within the rules and you have nothing to worry about.

Have a great day

Rob.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Eagleye on September 03, 2009, 10:27:16 PM

as for the barbs i belive all stores in region 2 should be responsible for their product and have none barbless hooks / pinching the products they sell. I see way to many people fishing with the barbs still up, easily over 50% of the people out on the fraser right now have the barbs up

There are fisheries in region 2 where barbs are allowed so that is why they sell them.  If DFO had a greater presence on our rivers this wouldn't be a problem.  From my observations most anglers comply with the barbless regulation.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Uncivil on September 03, 2009, 11:25:09 PM
I was checked by a fisheries officer at the foot of Five road this afternoon.  Good to see them out moreoften.  No fish though
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: mr.p on September 04, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
I've been checked by RCMP once years ago at a road block near Peg Leg.
Quick check of the license and a breif chat and I was on my way.
I think they are more interested in outstanding warrants, DUIs, etc.

Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: BwiBwi on September 04, 2009, 11:31:57 AM
INSPECTION
If asked, you must allow a Conservation Officer, Fishery Officer, RCMP Constable, Park Ranger in a Provincial Park, Park Warden in a National Park or an Officer under the Wildlife Act to examine your fishing licence, gear and catch.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Hollis on September 04, 2009, 11:45:34 AM
Is it possible to do a Citizens arrest in the event you see regulations being violated?
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: marmot on September 04, 2009, 12:16:34 PM
Citizens arrest for regulation violation....I doubt it....but I wish you could. 

I'd have the tazer hanging right next to my bear spray :D
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: doja on September 04, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Is it possible to do a Citizens arrest in the event you see regulations being violated?

Ya, not unless you want to get sued.

If you catch a guy breaking into you stuff and you hold him that is ok from what little I know, but if you hurt him you could be in allot  of trouble.

I don't think it is worth it unless it's a real big thing.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 04, 2009, 01:57:46 PM
Is it possible to do a Citizens arrest in the event you see regulations being violated?

Not worth it IMO. Let the proper authorities handle it.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: scouterjames on September 04, 2009, 02:39:20 PM
saw the DFO leaving two bit area this morning too - nice to see them out!
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: mr.p on September 04, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
Citizens arrest for regulation violation....I doubt it....but I wish you could. 

I'd have the tazer hanging right next to my bear spray :D

I'm pretty sure you can only do a citizen's arrest for an indictable offence.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: poncho on September 04, 2009, 07:40:40 PM
Is it possible to do a Citizens arrest in the event you see regulations being violated?

Unfortunately No.  Only if you witness an Indictable Offence being committed or an offence against yourself, property, or people in your care (family). Fisheries violations do not count.

But I wish they did.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Will_CARP on September 04, 2009, 10:05:37 PM
 Talked to those 2 guys, it wasn't about fishing.  It was about smoking wacky tobacco.  They were released without harm ;D
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on September 04, 2009, 10:33:16 PM
Talked to those 2 guys, it wasn't about fishing.  It was about smoking wacky tobacco.  They were released without harm ;D

Thats funny. They were put in handcuffs for smoking a joint? You dont see that very often. Maybe if they were carrying more than a pound but  if its just a bit of bud thats a rarity.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Will_CARP on September 04, 2009, 11:12:45 PM
 No matter how little or a lot, it is still illegal.  Even tho a person isn't going to be charged(small amount), the Man can still confiscate it and search your vehicle because they now have grounds to conduct a search.  It seemed the cop just wanted a reason to search their car because they were young and possibly up to no good, just grasping at straws.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: kaolinite on September 05, 2009, 02:03:43 AM
No matter how little or a lot, it is still illegal.  Even tho a person isn't going to be charged(small amount), the Man can still confiscate it and search your vehicle because they now have grounds to conduct a search.  It seemed the cop just wanted a reason to search their car because they were young and possibly up to no good, just grasping at straws.
but being put in handcuffs........ thats just a little extreme if you ask me
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: poncho on September 05, 2009, 07:25:25 AM
People are placed in cuffs for safety reasons. You never know what you will find during a search, or how a guy will react if he knows you will find something in his bag he will get in a lot of trouble for. Maybe he has warrants and will try and run, or has a gun in his bag.

I've arrested a binner for B&E for going inside a gated compound. He had a loaded S&W .22 cal semi-auto in his bike saddle bag, over 50 previous convictions and a record for shooting at a cop back in the 90's. You might think it's overkill handcuffing for binning on private property but it's better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: poncho on September 05, 2009, 07:47:43 AM
All that being said. I have never heard of anyone being charged with a joint or two. Stomp it out and sent on way is the norm.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: deepcovehooker on September 05, 2009, 08:27:24 AM
I saw the RCMP checking licenses last fall out at the Stave. 

The only problem was they did not have a good knowledge of the regs.  There were a number of people fishing right in the spawning channel and when I told him that that was illegal he said he was not sure and did not have a copy of the regs with him so would not do anything. 
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Ed on September 05, 2009, 10:58:38 AM
At least the RCMP is doing something useful these days lol. Beware All fishermen! better not resist or you might get tazered!
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Scooterguy on September 09, 2009, 06:02:26 PM
I was really surprised :o when the police showed up and check me for license and Crabs's size at Cates Park this year.  He even took out the measurement tool from his back pocket and measured the crabs right on the spot. I could not help laughing when I saw that. ;D ;D

I thought they were looking for a career change or or the DFO's officers were lining up at EI office. ::) ???
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: dereke on September 09, 2009, 06:30:38 PM
All that being said. I have never heard of anyone being charged with a joint or two. Stomp it out and sent on way is the norm.


 So it should be. Get the real criminals!
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: koko on September 09, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
It might not be necessary, but make people think and remember,it's good for them future in life
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DionJL on September 09, 2009, 07:41:55 PM
Barbs are a industry invention, it is more economical to make all hooks barbed than unbarbed because it fits all fishing industries worldwide. Yes it is more convenient for industry but thats the problem. When people start to get greedy and think of profits before people (or in this case fish) problems are bound to happen.

I'm sure most local stores are passionate about fishing and would welcome the idea of all gear being unbarbed but they would also risk the loss of sales to competing stores that would continue to sell barbed gear so they simply do not change.

profits over everything. hell this site would not exist if it was not making profit.... think about that

Dude. Move to Laos if you're such a commie. Give your head a shake. It the responsibility of the individual to ensure they are not breaking any laws. Try holding yourself accountable rather than laying the blame on someone else.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: glx on September 09, 2009, 09:26:41 PM

 So it should be. Get the real criminals!

No it shouldnt, stop supporting the "real`` criminals
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: warlo_527 on September 09, 2009, 10:34:32 PM
Whether it may be the RCMP or municipal police or DFO....it's good to have somebody checking fisher people on the rivers. And if that person happens to be somking whacky tobacco or even better that person has an arrest warrant...that check is def worth it.....get your license and thank that officer for doing a great job.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on September 09, 2009, 10:38:02 PM
Dude. Move to Laos if you're such a commie. Give your head a shake. It the responsibility of the individual to ensure they are not breaking any laws. Try holding yourself accountable rather than laying the blame on someone else.

I totally agree Dion. People are always looking for the easy way out. Besides barbs are not totally illegal in this province. So why should they only sell barbless hooks?
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: kaolinite on September 09, 2009, 11:58:17 PM
Dude. Move to Laos if you're such a commie. Give your head a shake. It the responsibility of the individual to ensure they are not breaking any laws. Try holding yourself accountable rather than laying the blame on someone else.

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

In a democracy isn't it the people's responsability to stand up and force change? Tieing a line with a weight, hook and a piece of wool then snagging salmon that have traveled thousands of miles and have passed hundreds of obstacles to get to its spawning stream isn't breaking the law, so that makes it right? I think not! I'm sick of watching fishing store clerks sell barbed pink lures to obvious poachers/one-dayrs with no mention of pinching the barb's down. Its more than obvious that this person will be using this lure for pink salmon, is it to hard for the clerk to ask "would you like me to put your barbs down?". Its the local law and enforcing it should be up to everyone, especially people involved with the industry. I would have to agree it does trickle down to the responsibility of the individual but shouldn't the industry put sensible measures in place to protect fish? The people running our fish right now are not doing a good job, thinks need to change.

give your head a shake for rolling over and being such a sheep. Your a troll
To keep this OT i got check today for the first time in years. Its always funny to see half the people out fishing dissapear withing 5 min.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: 3/16ths on September 10, 2009, 06:27:48 AM
Dion, well said.  It seems that it is becoming a trend in society these days for individuals to find an excuse for not taking ANY responsibility for their actions.

Kaolinite, you need someone to pinch your barbs for you?  Would you like a fisheries officer to follow you around on the river to remind you not to break any regulations?  How would you like your own personal RCMP to sit beside you when you are driving to remind you not to speed?  Give your head a shake :-\
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DionJL on September 10, 2009, 07:42:01 AM
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I missed an "is" so sorry if you couldn't comprehend that. I do appologize for my inadequate proof-reading.

I'll respond to the rest of your post in a few hours after I'm done class and have time to mull over the cr@p you've written.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: bcguy on September 10, 2009, 09:13:39 AM
Talked to those 2 guys, it wasn't about fishing.  It was about smoking wacky tobacco.  They were released without harm ;D
Say it isnt so...there are fishermen that smoke electric lettuce?!?!?!  ::) ::)
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Snapperhead on September 10, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Only us cool ones :)
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Eagleye on September 10, 2009, 11:57:37 AM
No it shouldnt, stop supporting the "real`` criminals

If you want it to stop supporting the "real" criminals then legalize it to remove the blackmarket profit of it. 
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Gaffer on September 10, 2009, 12:00:09 PM
I was driving home from work, past a popular fishing spot on River Road.  See one car parked with a RCMP crusier beside it.  There were 2 guys there, with their fishing rods leaning against the cruiser.  Both of the guys were in handcuffs.  Wondering if the RCMP are now enforcing fisheries?  Drove by that spot and fished it many times during the years and never seen the RCMP checking anyone.  This may be a good warning to make sure you are all legal when fishing for pinks.  I know it is sometimes easy to forget to pinch the barbs.

Have a great day

Rob.
Yes they are checking licensing since Ottawa cut 70 jobs from the enforcement Div Of the Dead Fish Office- Cheers
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Gaffer on September 10, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
Although it would be nice to have stores do this, they simply do not have the time to be spending it doing this, they would need new staff to pinch all those hooks. Also most packages hooks are packaged barbed and therefor the stores can't be opening everything up and pinching.
or
Give me a break !! The LAW says NO BARBS period ! Take some responsibility for your own actions Kid ! Pinch the barb down ! How tough is it for "G**'s sake!---- the Barbless law was brought in to give the dwindling numbers of fish a better chance to get off-- No more--No less--Tight lines/sharp hooks
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Gaffer on September 10, 2009, 12:12:05 PM
There are fisheries in region 2 where barbs are allowed so that is why they sell them.  If DFO had a greater presence on our rivers this wouldn't be a problem.  From my observations most anglers comply with the barbless regulation.
Where oh where might these places in  BC be---- Cheers
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Gaffer on September 10, 2009, 12:14:33 PM
Unfortunately No.  Only if you witness an Indictable Offence being committed or an offence against yourself, property, or people in your care (family). Fisheries violations do not count.

But I wish they did.
O.R.R. Observe Record Report --Let your fingers do the reporting---Cheers
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DragonSpeed on September 10, 2009, 12:17:10 PM
LAKES
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DragonSpeed on September 10, 2009, 12:19:26 PM
OK boys and girls.... Let's  minimize the name calling to about ZERO.  It's always unfortunate when a thread has to get locked.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Gaffer on September 10, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
LAKES
Point taken DragonSpeed--- so that would include trebel hooks on lures out of the shrink bag too , would it ?-- Cheers
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DionJL on September 10, 2009, 12:27:07 PM
In a democracy isn't it the people's responsability to stand up and force change?

No matter the political system it will always be up to the people to force change. Think Tiananmen Square.

Tieing a line with a weight, hook and a piece of wool then snagging salmon that have traveled thousands of miles and have passed hundreds of obstacles to get to its spawning stream isn't breaking the law, so that makes it right? I think not!

Relevance?

I'm sick of watching fishing store clerks sell barbed pink lures to obvious poachers/one-dayrs with no mention of pinching the barb's down.

Have you ever worked in a tackle store? I have. And I can honestly tell you that there is no garenteeed way of spotting a poacher when they are in a store. If you have some special way of telling then maybe you should work for DFO.

Maybe you'd like to state your field of work so we can criticize what you do.

Its more than obvious that this person will be using this lure for pink salmon

Ever fished for dolly varden? I've used pink lures for them, and you can use barbs when you're fishing in most lakes.

is it to hard for the clerk to ask "would you like me to put your barbs down?".

So now the store will assume legal responsibility for pinching the barbs of its customers (if the barb isn't fully pinched down to the Fisheries Officer's liking), thereby passing the accountability from the individual fishing to the retailer. BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

Its the local law and enforcing it should be up to everyone

No. Enforcing it is up to the fisheries officers or the RCMP. It's the local law and obeying it should be up to everyone.

especially people involved with the industry.

Since when did owning a tackle store make you a fisheries officer. A store cannot enforce the law, they can only guide people to obey it. Even that is optional.

I would have to agree it does trickle down to the responsibility of the individual but shouldn't the industry put sensible measures in place to protect fish?

Trickle down? You have to be kidding me!!! So when you speed on the highway and a cop pulls you over do you say "It's Ford's fault I was speeding. The governor only kicks in at 140km/hr."

The people running our fish right now are not doing a good job, thinks need to change.

Then do something about it. Posting BS on here doesn't do anything.

give your head a shake for rolling over and being such a sheep. Your a troll

Yup. You know me well enough to say that I don't think for myself and that I just follow along like a sheep.

When you come up with something intellegent to post please do, but until then sit down and shut-up.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DragonSpeed on September 10, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
OK boys and girls.... Let's  minimize the name calling to about ZERO.  It's always unfortunate when a thread has to get locked.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: noxcape on September 10, 2009, 04:38:35 PM
i guess i need to pinch the barbs on all my bass fishing gear
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Stu on September 10, 2009, 08:48:35 PM
The Army and Navy in New West has  barbless hocks. If you buy those they will bring in more selection, if nobody buys them they will stop stocking them.
Same to your local fishing store, just ask them and they will stock them. Just my $0.02
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: rides bike to work on September 10, 2009, 09:21:27 PM
We were fly fishing the top of peg and there were four boats of fn fisher men down river from us taking turns drifting the run. then the new rcmp river boat pulled up beside there boats.we thought,this might get a little interesting, and it did.The RCMP got off the boat and brought the FN fishermen coffe and a flat of donuts.Than 2 of the rcmp walked up to us and asked how we were doing, we said good,than he asked us if we  were all getting all with the fn fishermen, of course we said we were all getting along fine, seeing as they brought the other guys donuts and us nothing, than they went back down and finished off a few donuts sitting on a long than burned off in there brand new river jet boat.


                                              WHAT A LIFE!
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Stu on September 10, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
We were fly fishing the top of peg and there were four boats of fn fisher men down river from us taking turns drifting the run. then the new rcmp river boat pulled up beside there boats.we thought,this might get a little interesting, and it did.The RCMP got off the boat and brought the FN fishermen coffe and a flat of donuts.Than 2 of the rcmp walked up to us and asked how we were doing, we said good,than he asked us if we  were all getting all with the fn fishermen, of course we said we were all getting along fine, seeing as they brought the other guys donuts and us nothing, than they went back down and finished off a few donuts sitting on a long than burned off in there brand new river jet boat.


                                              WHAT A LIFE!

Your tax money at work.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 10, 2009, 09:51:27 PM
Coffee and donuts work better than tazers. :D
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: kaolinite on September 11, 2009, 12:58:40 AM
No matter the political system it will always be up to the people to force change. Think Tiananmen Square.

Relevance?

Have you ever worked in a tackle store? I have. And I can honestly tell you that there is no garenteeed way of spotting a poacher when they are in a store. If you have some special way of telling then maybe you should work for DFO.

Maybe you'd like to state your field of work so we can criticize what you do.

Ever fished for dolly varden? I've used pink lures for them, and you can use barbs when you're fishing in most lakes.

So now the store will assume legal responsibility for pinching the barbs of its customers (if the barb isn't fully pinched down to the Fisheries Officer's liking), thereby passing the accountability from the individual fishing to the retailer. BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

No. Enforcing it is up to the fisheries officers or the RCMP. It's the local law and obeying it should be up to everyone.

Since when did owning a tackle store make you a fisheries officer. A store cannot enforce the law, they can only guide people to obey it. Even that is optional.

Trickle down? You have to be kidding me!!! So when you speed on the highway and a cop pulls you over do you say "It's Ford's fault I was speeding. The governor only kicks in at 140km/hr."

Then do something about it. Posting BS on here doesn't do anything.

Yup. You know me well enough to say that I don't think for myself and that I just follow along like a sheep.

When you come up with something intellegent to post please do, but until then sit down and shut-up.

Wow i cant belive you took the time to picked that apart peice by peice, all for my own enjoyment!. 
I guess im completly wrong, your right.... "never argue with a idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience"
Take a step back. I posted a idea and you blasted me for it , going as far as calling me, a "commie"... your a troll!.... your the one the mods should put a muzzle on .
Lets go back to kindergarden and use the rule "if you got nothing nice to say dont say anything at all"  your the rotton brat in class they use words like "sit down and shut up" on you so play your role.......did you know its spelled intelligent not intellegent haha way to prove your point
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: skaha on September 11, 2009, 08:23:30 AM
--show your colours: people breaking the law do not want to be around people who obey the law
--wear your wilderness watch patch or fishing club or make up your own, I'm an ethical fisher patch.

--
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DionJL on September 11, 2009, 09:58:51 AM
Wow i cant belive you took the time to picked that apart peice by peice, all for my own enjoyment!. 
I guess im completly wrong, your right.... "never argue with a idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience"
Take a step back. I posted a idea and you blasted me for it , going as far as calling me, a "commie"... your a troll!.... your the one the mods should put a muzzle on .
Lets go back to kindergarden and use the rule "if you got nothing nice to say dont say anything at all"  your the rotton brat in class they use words like "sit down and shut up" on you so play your role.......did you know its spelled intelligent not intellegent haha way to prove your point

Taking a step back, I see that you posted an idea. I, as well as others, felt this idea was completely out of line, and so we posted how we felt about it. The "commie" remark was a little out of line I'll admit, and if you'd like, I will edit it from my post. However it is you that has stooped to name calling (idiot, troll, etc.), only because you can't intelligently defend you're position. So instead of defending your point or admitting you're wrong, you are now attacking me personally.

As for the spelling mistake, I give you kudos in finding the most ironic one in the thread. However I could have pulled out a few from your previous posts but I don't feel the odd slip of the finger when typing really makes a difference in the message of the post.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: kaolinite on September 11, 2009, 11:54:05 PM
Taking a step back, I see that you posted an idea. I, as well as others, felt this idea was completely out of line, and so we posted how we felt about it. The "commie" remark was a little out of line I'll admit, and if you'd like, I will edit it from my post. However it is you that has stooped to name calling (idiot, troll, etc.), only because you can't intelligently defend you're position. So instead of defending your point or admitting you're wrong, you are now attacking me personally.

As for the spelling mistake, I give you kudos in finding the most ironic one in the thread. However I could have pulled out a few from your previous posts but I don't feel the odd slip of the finger when typing really makes a difference in the message of the post.

troll is not name calling, its computer talk for someone who goes out of their way to bashes people when its completly not necessary. I can intelligently defend my position, i wouldnt be far off to say in 50 years all hooks in B.C will be barbless soo considering that, wouldnt it be logical for stores in BC to stop selling barb'd gear? The barb is a industry invention and it is a industry decisson, the same industry that i may add who is running are (the people's) salmon stocks into the ground.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: SNapz on September 12, 2009, 01:02:35 AM
How is the industry that sells barbed hooks running the salmon stocks into the ground? It's the fishermans job and responsibility to pinch the barbs on the hooks. That's why we have written regulations that people are supposed to read.  There's only so much babysitting that can be done and unfortuantely that's not what people in a fishing store are getting paid to do.

Another interesting part on the barbless hooks. I noticed that some places now sell barbless treble hooks so I bought some to use with anchovy hookups. That was a huge mistake.... Fish after fish would not stay on the hook by the time you could get the line of the downrigger. I ended up giving up on the premade barbless hooks and went back to the hooks where I pinched down the barb. After this the fish were staying on the line. And yes the barbs were fully pinched down. Last time I will be using premade barbless hooks when used with downriggers.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DionJL on September 12, 2009, 10:49:35 AM
I don't understand how a manufacturer has anything to do with how DFO runs the fishery. But you seem to have some psychic powers because you can pick out a poacher before they poach, and can see 50 years into the future. So I wont question your knowledge.

Hooks have barbs because it is part of the manufacturing process. When the hook is bent, the barb acts as a holding point. That is why factory made barbless hooks have a different shape than regular hooks.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DOdGER on September 12, 2009, 08:52:52 PM
barblaess hooks are the anglers responablilty.  PEROID
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: skaha on September 13, 2009, 11:29:56 AM
How is the industry that sells barbed hooks running the salmon stocks into the ground? It's the fishermans job and responsibility to pinch the barbs on the hooks. That's why we have written regulations that people are supposed to read.  There's only so much babysitting that can be done and unfortuantely that's not what people in a fishing store are getting paid to do.

Another interesting part on the barbless hooks. I noticed that some places now sell barbless treble hooks so I bought some to use with anchovy hookups. That was a huge mistake.... Fish after fish would not stay on the hook by the time you could get the line of the downrigger. I ended up giving up on the premade barbless hooks and went back to the hooks where I pinched down the barb. After this the fish were staying on the line. And yes the barbs were fully pinched down. Last time I will be using premade barbless hooks when used with downriggers.

--check out some different shaped treble barbless, some shaped similar to circle hook other s have two long and one wide gap etc. wouldn't give up after trying one style. 
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: SpringMaster on September 14, 2009, 03:04:58 PM
This is a funny one:

I was at Saperton yesterday evening; and as I was pulling into a parking spot I saw 3 RCMP and Police cars pulling in.
Then I proceeded to my regular spot on the rocks with my wife to do some fishing.
The policemen were checking the people fishing on the pier.
My wife said that i bet they wont come out this way to check others; and I said no way!  They will come.

sure enough, the cops checked all on the pier, but they didn't make the effort to walk 10 min along the river and check the other 30 or 40 people who were fishing on the rocks :)
I just thought this was really funny.  They must have been late for their donut stop :) :)
I like that they check fishermen, but at least they could make sure they cover everyone when they can! ::)

Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: warlo_527 on September 14, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
SpringMaster,
"They must have been late for their donut stop" That MUST be it....or maybe they had to attend a 911 call? Maybe a car accident? Maybe a report of some sorts...missing person...anything. I agree with you that it's nice that they are coming out to check fisherpeople though.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: poncho on September 15, 2009, 11:03:02 AM

sure enough, the cops checked all on the pier, but they didn't make the effort to walk 10 min along the river and check the other 30 or 40 people who were fishing on the rocks :)
I just thought this was really funny.  They must have been late for their donut stop :) :)
I like that they check fishermen, but at least they could make sure they cover everyone when they can! ::)


What is the point of making stupid comments like "They must have been late for their donut stop".  Did that really serve any purpose? It is the DFO's responsibility to manage fisheries and police help out when they can. Your whining that they should have checked everyone just goes to prove that police are never going to be able to please everyone. Also, walking 10 minutes along the river, away from their cars would mean an extra 10 minutes it would take to get to their cars if an emergency call came in. Then the public would complain about response time and don't the police have something better to do than check fishing licences.

By the way, you have no idea why they left and your "donut stop" comment is so old and unoriginal it is pathetic.
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Will_CARP on September 15, 2009, 11:34:15 AM
 Maybe they got word of a fresh batch!!! ;D
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: DragonSpeed on September 15, 2009, 01:35:48 PM
Face it -

Cops will ALWAYS be the brunt of donut shop jokes.
Lawyers will ALWAYS be the brunt of greedy money jokes.

As a cop it's gotta be tough to hear, but there's nothing  you can do to counter it.

I know a few lawyers and they always seem to have a BETTER lawyer joke than the guy telling the first.  Kinda puts the teller in his place. ;)

We all know the police do an IMPORTANT and required job, and that due to understaffing (money - where to get more money??  Maybe they can swing a deal with a lawyer? :D ) they are "never around when you need them".  It's tough... no real win other than to know you ARE making a difference.

my $0.02

p.s. can you grab me a Canadian maple when you stop by the donut shop  8)
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: funpig on September 15, 2009, 02:23:06 PM
If you can see a uniform coming 10 minutes away, what are the chances of a cheater being caught anyways?  By the time, the uniformed officer shows up, the illegal tackle will have been changed out or any illegally retained fish could be dumped.  That is why I applaud the use of officers working under cover as fishermen to catch the cheaters who know the rules. 
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: SpringMaster on September 15, 2009, 03:06:52 PM
I've got another donut joke :)

do u know why the cops all of a sudden turn on their siren in traffic and do a U-turn and rush away?   they remembered they were supposed to pick up some fresh donuts for the office!  ;D

Cheer up dude!
If you were there, where I was, and saw 6 cops checking on 10 people, you would have shook your head too!
Oh and when they left, they didn't have their sirens or the blinky-blinky lights on!  ;)
Title: Re: RCMP Checking fisherman?
Post by: Rodney on September 15, 2009, 03:24:11 PM
That's enough.