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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Backlash on August 31, 2009, 01:18:03 PM

Title: chinook salmon retention will NOT be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Dr. Backlash on August 31, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
is this because there is a low return of springs so far? and will this be in effect for the rest of the fall?
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Rodney on August 31, 2009, 01:41:09 PM
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21409.msg203813#msg203813
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Dr. Backlash on August 31, 2009, 04:28:59 PM
thanks for the reply Rod, but that link doesn't answer my questions....1) is the restriction on keeping Chinooks because they're not returning in decent numbers so far? 2) what is the likelihood that this restriction will be in place for the rest of the fall?
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Stealth on August 31, 2009, 05:12:06 PM
Where was this posted???  there is no notice of non retention of Chinook on the D.F.O recreational fishing notice site.

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=search_options&lang=en&id=recreational
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Spoonman on August 31, 2009, 05:17:42 PM
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.htm                 look under fraser river
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Rodney on August 31, 2009, 06:03:56 PM
See this notice:

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=117677&ID=recreational

Chinook salmon in the Fraser River is opened until August 31st as stated. There isn't a last minute closure. The opening and closing dates are pretty typical like other years. Management measures usually kicks in during September when Interior coho salmon and steelhead are migrating. A bait ban will probably be in effect in one week from now. Further opening of retention of chinook salmon maybe announced. Fraser River summer chinook salmon return is better than average this year.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: chris gadsden on August 31, 2009, 10:40:38 PM
Heard from FOC tonight, Debra and chinooks are still open as there is a new notice out but I have not looked for it.
Her words were:
New notice.


Debra
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: lapa on August 31, 2009, 10:47:43 PM
Heard from FOC tonight and chinooks are still open as there is a new notice out but I have not looked for it.

I didn't find new one.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Rodney on August 31, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
New notice is not out yet.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: chris gadsden on August 31, 2009, 11:17:57 PM
New notice is not out yet.
Deb says its coming but the chinooks are still open according to her and The Master. ;D ;D
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2009, 08:42:47 AM
Spoke to Fisheries and Oceans Canada this morning re: chinook salmon. Tidal and Non-tidal Fraser River chinook salmon opening is extended to December 31st, but adult minimum size is moved from 50cm to 62cm.

Aggasiz to Hope remains closed for salmon fishing.

Bait ban will come in effect next Tuesday (September 8th).

Complete detail will be available in a fishery notice later on today.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: alwaysfishn on September 01, 2009, 08:48:00 AM
Deb says its coming but the chinooks are still open according to her and The Master. ;D ;D

This is indicative of the lack of respect offered to the sportsfishermen!
Many sportsfishermen stayed home today because they thought it was closed as of the end of August. However there are sportsfishermen out there fishing right now either because they are unaware of the regulations or they are ignoring them. The whole regulation and enforcement with DFO is a joke. Somebody should be fired!!
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: flatlander on September 01, 2009, 09:17:12 AM
This is absolute crap.  Ruined our day planned today.

Call DFO and complain 604.666.0384 (option 2).

DFO Langley office 604.607.4150
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Noel on September 01, 2009, 10:32:57 AM
This is absolute crap.  Ruined our day planned today.


flatlander, you mean you had the day planned even tho fishery notice said it would be closed all along?
 
I had accepted the closure all along (albeit earlier than prev yrs) and considered myself lucky if they open it for more opportunities.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: flatlander on September 01, 2009, 10:58:58 AM
DFO being too lazy to post a notice on time is unacceptable.  Some of us can't pick our day's off from work.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
Bait ban periods for the Fraser River as follows:

Fraser River Mouth to Mission: Sept 8 - Oct 9
Mission to Hope: Sept 10 - Oct 12
Hope to Sawmill Creek: Sept 12 - Oct 15
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: chris gadsden on September 01, 2009, 11:06:10 AM
This is indicative of the lack of respect offered to the sportsfishermen!
Many sportsfishermen stayed home today because they thought it was closed as of the end of August. However there are sportsfishermen out there fishing right now either because they are unaware of the regulations or they are ignoring them. The whole regulation and enforcement with DFO is a joke. Somebody should be fired!!

Hopefully you have sent FOC a note of your concern. I know it can get frustrating when things like this happen but if you get proactive it should help things for the future.
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: chris gadsden on September 01, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
Folks, DFO staff and many of you have received calls about chinook management actions in place today.  This note should clarify the regulations in place right now.

The guide for both the tidal Fraser and the Fraser in Region 2 says:

May 1 - Aug 31, opportunites expected, contact your local DFO office
Sept 1 - Dec 31, 4 per day with only one over 62 cm

The fishery notices we posted earlier in the year dealt only with the May 1 to Aug 31 period thus I didn't think we needed a reminder to folks that effective September 1 we changed the size limit from 50 cm to 62 cm.  Boy was I wrong:(

Anyway, I've looked at the website and I see that when the last fishery notice was posted the period from Sept 1 - Dec 31 was removed. I have contacted our webmaster and she will rectify this situation immediately and I have also drafted a Fishery Notice that will be out this morning.

Please note that there will be a bait ban in place during the Interior Fraser Coho timing window, a fishery notice on this will come out this week too.  The dates are:

mouth to Mission: Sept 8 - Oct 9
Mission to Hope: Sept 10 - Oct 12
Hope to Sawmill Creek: Sept 12 - Oct 15

Sorry for any confusion.

Debra Sneddon
Fisheries Manager, Recreational Fisheries
ph: 604-666-6509
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Dr. Backlash on September 01, 2009, 11:46:33 AM
Spoke to Fisheries and Oceans Canada this morning re: chinook salmon. Tidal and Non-tidal Fraser River chinook salmon opening is extended to December 31st, but adult minimum size is moved from 50cm to 62cm.

Aggasiz to Hope remains closed for salmon fishing.

Bait ban will come in effect next Tuesday (September 8th).

Complete detail will be available in a fishery notice later on today.

this is great news!  thanks for keeping us all up to date Rod & Chris - much appreciated!
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2009, 01:12:47 PM
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=119786&ID=recreational
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Dr. Backlash on September 01, 2009, 01:50:54 PM
this notice was specifically related to non-tidal waters of the Fraser river; are there any changes or notices about to be released that affect fishing in the tidal portion of the Fraser - i.e. can we still catch and keep chinook in the lower fraser? and is there a size restriction - must be over 62cm long?

Thanks for the info Rod
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: Dr. Backlash on September 01, 2009, 03:53:52 PM
I just noticed that - thanks!
Title: Re: chinook salmon retention will be closed starting on September 1st
Post by: poncho on September 01, 2009, 06:08:08 PM
This is a great site for info. Is it possible to change the title of this post to "Chinook salmon retention IS NO LONGER closed starting on September 1st."

If you just scan the topics in general discussion without opening it, you might think retention is now closed. Just a thought.