Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stratocaster on July 06, 2009, 09:22:35 AM
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Does not look good
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/more.jsp?content=20090706_115840_8092
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There should be some sort of monument to all the dead fishermen in the parking lot there, as a reminder what has happened so many times. Terrible news anyway.
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Well my wife just heard about this and is insisting that I get one of the those inflatable life jackets for the Cap. Probably not a bad idea. They're nice little units, but expensive from what I've heard.
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It would appear from Global pictures that the tragedy occurred at the Cable Pool. Apparently two guys were fishing and one of them felled in. The other guy ran for help and when he returned it was too late. Even though the river is low, it is still dangerous. Please be careful out there.
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I risked my life last year to save a guy that thought he could wade the cap......he was ok , but if me and my bud were not there?
sad about the fellow that fell in this morning, my heart goes out to the family.
water is water, be carful.
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Thats horrible. Does anyone know if he was wearing waders? whats the height of the cliff he was fishing off of?
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Why would any one be standing 7 meters above the water?Odds of landing a fish from there is highly improbable,unless you have a net with a 9 meter handle. Plus why tempt Mr. Darwin, he is always looking to improve the gene pool.
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I would assume he was standing on the rocks out, from the deck at the cable pool. that drop is about 25-30 feet. Seems to be a fairly popular spot, but when its wet its slick.
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There is an article by Rodney, "Capilano Coho Techniques" , and he mentioned there the danger on Capilano.
What can you say more...
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probably, before falling in water, he fell on his back and injured his back and/or his head;
that's something we should be always aware while fishing on any rocks;
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That's really sad. :(
Too bad there was no one around with enough skills and courage to jump in and rescue him when he fell.
Damn Cap.
I had a close call there eight years ago when almost the same thing happened to me, but not on that spot. I fell in a bit below the cable pool. Just as I was casting, I lost my footing and next thing I knew I was swimming! :o
The water was much higher then than what it is now, and the bumpy drift downstream was all but pleasant. I managed to get out of the water by myself at the end of the bend. Scared, freezing but wiser for the experience.
After that episode, I sort of avoided the Cap although it is only a 20 minute drive from my place.
It is a serious river and should be treated as such. And as someone already stated above, those rocks are really slippery.
Be careful out there.
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I remember asking about the river when I had planned to wade in it a while back and I was steadily warned with the dangers, especially when wet. This is really a shame to happen.
Has there ever been any talk of having some sort of floatation donut with a rop secured to the dock, or perhaps up around the picnic tables or anything? It seems like the very least that should be available there in the event this happens again. That's just off the top of my head, too, I'm sure with a little more thinking something better could be established for such a busy, and yet dangerous, place.
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I've been there when a helicopter was flown in to rescue a stranded fisherman caught out at keith road pool. The Cap is a very dangerous place and one must use common sense when fishing it. Methinks it might be time to extend the closure to include the cliff off the cable pool. Just too many deaths and close calls.
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My heart goes out to his family and love ones. lets remember lets be carefull out there
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this will just push people further into the canyon, where it is quite a bit more dangerous. ......its not as easy to help someone when your down deep in the box canyon.
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Why should we stop people from doing stupid things? There is a thing called personal responsibility, you do some thing dumb and you die it is no ones fault but your own. Have done lots of things that could have killed me, it was a decision that i made at the time and i had to over come the results of that decision.
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i mentioned rodney article "Capilano coho techniques" and there is a picture of the place;there are 3 fishermans in the picture;
the place is heavily fished; when we cast a coin, over and over, after a while it will show up head for sure; the same thing with the fishermans, there will be accidents for sure;
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That is really sad. Hopefully this serves as a reminder to us all to always be careful
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Sad to hear another fatality among the fishermen brothers. That Cable Pool rocks should be ringed with some railings at the edge of those slippery rocks or just close them off. They are nothing but traps for inexperienced fishermen. Too many deaths all these years. The one I recalled vividly happened many years ago on July 1st, Canada Day. The river was in flood and coho were plentiful so fishermen were taking chances and one poor soul slipped off the same slippery rock into a raging river while trying to land his fish. This time, the river is low and still it claims another victim. What a waste of human lives and what tragedy to those grieving families. The park people should do something to prevent accident there or just close off those rocks.
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I truly feel for the family and friends of the victim, but at least he died doing a hobby he probably loved.
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Very sad. At least he went doing something he liked. I agree with the guys who don't want the area closed off. Just because less than .2 % off people have died fishing the area, we do not need a closure. We can not keep protecting the human race in this manner. I've seen to many laws passed or closures for things that I would consider common sense. Take responsability for your own life not someone elses.
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I agree that people need to take some responsibility for their actions. Due to its location, the Cap gets lots of angling action. But its not the only river or creek on the North Shore that has had fatalities. Lynn Canyon gets lots of emergency calls every year. Even if it gets closed off, people will still climb fences and do what ever to get to the fishing grounds.
I would rather see a railing on the rocks (though difficult to install) and more signage than closing off the area.
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(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/troutbreath/cablepool2.jpg)
This is from the news were the guy fell from. Dogleg pool downstream is even more dangerous.
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If you happen to fall in the river, how rough is the flow of water? The picture doesnt seem to swift. Maybe they can set up a harness fall protection to the trees/ rock in the area. All the fisherman would have to do is bring his own harness, and clip onto one of the the ropes, and that itself would be enough to prevent a couple more deaths.
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another reason why i spent the money on a vest with an inflatable life vest in it. I hope i never have to use it
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If you happen to fall in the river, how rough is the flow of water? The picture doesnt seem to swift. Maybe they can set up a harness fall protection to the trees/ rock in the area. All the fisherman would have to do is bring his own harness, and clip onto one of the the ropes, and that itself would be enough to prevent a couple more deaths.
The reason that wouldn't work is liability-the organisation who put the ropes up-the Government-would then be liable for whatever happened, in the end people have to be responsible for themselves not have someone watching out for their every misstep.
It's usually a lot faster is always cold and as mentioned upthread the guy might have been injured in the fall, broken rib or arm, wrenched shoulder, heart seizure you never know.
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The water on the day in question was as low as it gets. I took my wife and 2 year old to the hatchery the day before and took a walk down to cable pool. There was some people fishing on the cliff over looking cable pool and my wife commented that that looked very dangerous.
Even though the water is not particularly swift i have swam in there in the summer and it is very cold and produces quite a shock to the body when it hits you.
Really sad indeed that someone passed away. It does happen every year, usually during high water.
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The area around cable pool is absolutely dangerous. I see people standing within inches of falling to death or serious injury. Rain or shine too. It really is foolish to fish up there because if you hook into anything it would be nearly impossible to land it without losing it on the way up.
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JBJ....I know the guy you saved! We bug him about it and believe me, he won't ever try something like that again.
I was kinda peeved off, that I risked my life to help that guy, that endangered his life and mine.....I would do it again.
but I did get a" thanks man" the next time I saw him.....that made it all worth it.... ::)
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4 inch by 4 inch thick stainless plates have been bolted onto the various heavily fished areas of cable to attach rope to for good reason. If your going to fish there grab some rope and attach yourself to it. There are a few by the lookout at the tail of the pool and there are more on the rocks up from it.
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Well my wife just heard about this and is insisting that I get one of the those inflatable life jackets for the Cap. Probably not a bad idea. They're nice little units, but expensive from what I've heard.
If it saves your life it's certainly NOT expensive!
You could be saying your life isn't worth $150, think about it!
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I have two inflatable vests. One from the Boat show on sale for $140 and one from Crappy Tire for $99 on sale regularly $200. Just have to be thrift as a Scot, and like reading fliers to get the deals. :)
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I'll keep my eyes open for a sale. Anything to watch out for in terms of quality?
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Really sad news.
As a lousy swimmer, you won't catch me putting myself in positions of great risk. No bungy jumping or mountain climbing for me, so ergo no russian roulette with fast rushing water. I just don't fish those areas of the cap...
That being said, I don't believe in any closures. They can post signs, give warnings, etc, but the rest is up to the individual.
Closing it down would be like closing down everest for climbing because too many people have died. You just need to remind them of the risk level ( a few laminated newspaper clippings on the trail would help), and let them decide what level of risk they want to take.
I like the idea of clipping on a safety line.. If I'm fishing that stretch I would probably do that, combine some mountain climbing gear with fishing.. You don't need to go to the extent of a cable line to clip on, just a tree or boulders would be better than nothing.
Everyone stay safe this year... remember it's a hobby, no danger pay.
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"Anything to watch out for in terms of quality"
http://www.boatus.com/foundation/Findings/Inflatablepfd.htm
I bought the Mustang comfort coller and found the metal adjustment on the strap poked in my back in the pontoon seat :-\ SO much for comfort. The other was a Nautalus from canadian tire which is very simular to the Mustang. Might want to check this out.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/Marine/LifejacketsPFDs/PRD~0791903P/Nautilus%2BManual%2BInflatable%2BPFD%252C%2BCamouflage.jsp
Also when using ropes for cliffs when fishing, they should be used as fall prevention/restaint. Meaning they don't let you get to the edge of the cliff. Otherwise you need to think about being rescued from hanging from the rope if you can't pull yourself up.
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Sorry to hear the news,my best regard to his family.
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My condolences to the family. I just read about it and makes me think I should buy a life jacket just in case.
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Thanks for the info troutbreath ;D
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My friend spoke with SAR yesterday while fishing Cable Pool. The said the man slipped while casting and was thrashing around on the surface for a second. They guessed he had a shock reaction to the cold water and inhaled a bunch of water. He went under and then no one saw him till his body was found.