Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: mike123 on July 24, 2008, 08:42:16 PM
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Any tips on finding Vedder red springs? In three years of trying I've yet to get one. All I seem to get are sockeye and I want to leave those fish alone. Do red springs choose different water then the Sockeye? Do red springs prefer certain types of areas in the river that I have yet to clue in on? What kinds of water depth, bottom type, flow rate should I be looking for? Do they hug the bottom and if not how far off the bottom should I float? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey mike123,
I am also new to catching salmon and have asked similar questions. If you look through the July posts under Stupid New Guy you will find some answers. Also, I did find a lot of information by googling your questions or just searching for Vedder salmon. Anyways, this has been a great forum for learning.
Cheers
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Lots of questions there.....
1) Yes sockeye and Springs sit in different water, but can also sit in the same water too. I saw a few Reds this year on the edge and even inside a backeddy with hundreds of sockeye around also. Reds seem to prefer Depper, faster water while sockeye will come up the edges or slower moving water (seams, backwashes, etc).
That being said I have seen lots of Springs this year coming up within 2 feet of the edge.
2) Springs like deeper holes, i would say 4 feet plus. The like sitting on seam edges and places where currents connect with eachother. They also like fast water too with lots of riffle/top action or will sit in a slower moving ruin as long as there is lots of rapids, etc in a run just above them.
3) Springs like sitting close to the bottom, Most people I find adjust their float till they hit bottom and then move it 1-2 feet up. This will keep your hook close to the bottom and in the strike zone.
Cheers ;)
Dan
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noticed this morning while fishing lower vedder that there were good sized schools of sockeye moving through.when i returned tonight there were only a few.I guess the guys on the fraser are cleaning up.only one spring caught that i saw
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pretty uncommon to catch from what i have seen. unfortunately it seems most are just playing out the cultus sockeye.
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pretty uncommon to catch from what i have seen. unfortunately it seems most are just playing out the cultus sockeye.
Well what are you gona do people are not targeting the sockeye they are just there at the same time as the springs. If the DFO were really concerned about this they would extend the river closure till September.
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noticed this morning while fishing lower vedder that there were good sized schools of sockeye moving through.when i returned tonight there were only a few.I guess the guys on the fraser are cleaning up.only one spring caught that i saw
Not really. It has more to do with the timing of the tides. :)
You may go back tomorrow and again see good sized schools of sockeye in the Vedder.
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pretty uncommon to catch from what i have seen. unfortunately it seems most are just playing out the cultus sockeye.
Sorry there greese308 but these sockeye are the chilliwack lake ones. Not that many get hooked by the ethical but the flossers can not keep them off :'(
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I am not upset with anyone floating roe and hooking a sockeye in the mouth, it is the bottom bouncers on the vedder which I am upset with. Target your species, ie springs. Too many I see on the Vedder are BBing the sockeye.
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Drift fishing close to the bottom with small presentations works well for spring, especially in fast water slots. There is no need to bottom bounce as almost the whole river is shallow enough for drift fishing. There are a couple of spots where you may need to fish without a float because of the depth of the river, but this can be done with short leaders and some pencil lead, not BBs and a long leader.
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Lots of questions there.....
1) Yes sockeye and Springs sit in different water, but can also sit in the same water too. I saw a few Reds this year on the edge and even inside a backeddy with hundreds of sockeye around also. Reds seem to prefer Depper, faster water while sockeye will come up the edges or slower moving water (seams, backwashes, etc).
That being said I have seen lots of Springs this year coming up within 2 feet of the edge.
2) Springs like deeper holes, i would say 4 feet plus. The like sitting on seam edges and places where currents connect with eachother. They also like fast water too with lots of riffle/top action or will sit in a slower moving ruin as long as there is lots of rapids, etc in a run just above them.
3) Springs like sitting close to the bottom, Most people I find adjust their float till they hit bottom and then move it 1-2 feet up. This will keep your hook close to the bottom and in the strike zone.
Cheers ;)
Dan
Not totaly true, I have caught springs this year in 2 feet of water, I have caught them in holes that are 10 feet deep and I was only fishing 4 feet deep. and I have even caught a few sitting amongst the sockeye.
so bottom line is they do prefer some types of water , but you can catch them everwhere.
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My last few outings I have been nailing them in about 4ft of water...
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go to the fraser river or wait for a month for vedder
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JBJ that was just more of a guidline, I know they sit everywhere, kinda like steelhead do ::) Fish are so confusing, people tell me Steelhead are "suppose" to be in certain spots and I end up hooking some this year in 16 inches of riffle ??? I guess its all learning experience and time on the water ;)