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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: c-pin on September 22, 2007, 09:22:34 AM
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Fished the Vedder today from the Alison Pool to the Canal (KWB).
Choice of Terminal Tackle? ROE!!
I got a beautiful chrome jack spring in the upper. Stopping at Freds, I asked what the conditions were like in the lower river. "Kieth Wilson Bridge" was the reply. As I was fishing with my Dad, I thought it would be a good idea. He has had a Cardiac condition, and his equilibrium is off due to his medications; he gets dizzy quite easily, and tires quickly. I must admit, I know I may sound like a snob, but I have turned my nose up at KWB suggestion before. Today was not about me though; it was a day out for my Dad. Let me say 3 words about the fishing KWB; "Oh my God". There were waves of pinks surging up river. Many of them not a rods length from shore. The fishing was fast and furious during this time.
It was not long before we were into Pinks. I noticed Dad changing up his roe every 3rd cast or so. So I went over and tied a "JS Special" wool tie for my Dad. The next cast - COHO. He was almost in tears as he has not had such a fish in about a decade. He hasn't lost his touch though. With firm but steady rod pressure, he allowed the fish to run when he needed it to, but in short time he eased the fish to the beach.
I met Chris Gadsen face to face. It was a pleasure to meet you. Your work for the resource is very much appreciated. I also met "Birdman" (I can't remember your name), but in no time, he was showing my Dad and I what a great angler he is.
There were some not so pleasant incidents at the river. We got "corked" by a couple of Bottom Bouncers. I knew we were going to have trouble when I saw the bouncing betty at the tip of the rod, and he was holding on to the leader by the reel. The hook was trailing about 4 feet behind him. He stepped in front of my Dad, right on top of his roe tub. Of course my Dad being the outspoken type, called him on it. Words were exchanged. I guess he figured, "He's just an old man", and got a little lippy with him. Unfortunately for him, I was about 50 feet away from my Dad; lets just say my bite is very much worse than my bark; and my bark can be fierce. So, for some reason, the bottom bouncer skulked away.
When they left, three new fishermen came by. They were fishing with a float, a long leader with a Krocodile and 3 jensen eggs on the hook. I went to them and asked how long they had been fishing. "This is our first year", they said in very thick Indo Canadian accents. I asked if they wouldn't mind me showing them how to rig up for the river? "Please do", was the reply. So 3 more "JS Special" wool ties were rigged up. I showed them that the leader only needed to be no more than 2 feet, and how to short float. My Dad and I left very shortly after setting them up. The smiles were very broad as they too were into fish as we were leaving. So the balance of life seemed to equalize.
In short, we left the river with one Jack Spring, one Coho, and 2 silver Pinks.
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Sounds like a great day. Good report as well, thanks. Where is the KWB? is it east off Vedder road?
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Great Report C-pin,
Nice to hear your dad broke his decade drought, and nice of you to help out those beginners, a few kind words and some help, and I am sure those guys will go home talking about the nice man that helped them.
PS, got any photos of the 'JS Special'? I think I might sneak out of a brunch here and head out.
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Hey Guys!
The "JS Special"?? I don't know guys !! ;) Are you part of the "Secret Handshake / Centrepin Enthusiast / Cigar Loving Club" ?? You are ?? Good.
No pics required. It's easy. Use only 1/4 to 1/3 strand of wool about 1 inch long (small profile). Use 2 shades of the same colour. (Hot pink / Baby Pink or Peach / Orange or Red / Flame Red). Also put a little (key word - little) "Angel Hair" in it for some sparkle. "Angel Hair" is bought in the fly making section of the tackle shops. That's it. I'm sure other people use this, but my Dad dubbed it the "JS Special" as it was the hot ticket yesterday. The "JS" are my initials BTW.
Good Luck.
BTW - we were short floating (about 24 inches), with about a 18 - 24 inch leader.
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Kudos to you for showing a couple of beginners the proper technique. Two thumbs up.
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Sounds like an excellent day! Good to hear you and your dad got into fish. I'm thinking of heading up tomorrow?You in? Call me later if you are. ;)
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Hey Merc,
Sorry buddy, but I'm pulling a shift as a Paramedic tonight (Saturday) ... I'm off at 2:00 am, so I will be sleeping in.
I will be going up on Thursday if you want to meet up.
Cheers, John
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Can't this Thursday. I'm committed to delivering training for one of those computer programs we both use for my office.
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I also met "Birdman" (I can't remember your name), but in no time, he was showing my Dad and I what a great angler he is.
what are you on, crack? :D
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Good Karma for showing the beginners the proper technique. Good things happen to good people. :)
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Great report !
In faster currents or higher water areas , do you use any weight with this short leader , float technique ?
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If the runs are short and fast, then use slightly heavier weight and a much shorter leader (1 foot or less). The heavier weight allows the bait to reach the fishing depth right away and the shorter leader prevents the bait from floating up and above the fishing depth.
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Thx Rod.
Sounds like that would mean putting the weight right beside the hook ??
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Nice job J. Meant to go looking for you on thurs. as the old guys didn't show...would have liked to fish with you and english mike again...give me a shout on this thurs.
Paul
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Hey XG ... I'll call you this week. I will be on the Vedder on Monday with my Dad. Probably either Tuesday or Wednesday with English Michael. On Thursday, it may be just me, or my wife may come along.
Talk to you soon, Paul.
Cheers, John
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Excellent report C-Pin.
Did you use JS Special for Coho as well?
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Hey Lex 2000.
My Dad got the Coho on the Wool Tie (JS Special), not the roe. Go figure !! ???
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C-Pin
You said to use 2 of the similar colour coordination of wool? ie.. orange/peach
when are you heading up to Vedder again?
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C-Pin, correct me if i'm wrong.
i found this
http://www.gofishin.com/index.cgi?cart_id=3932571.9383&mgf=2100000000&show_details=35848&cat=420&keywords=&nophoto=&sort=&tb=&hmn=&sw=31 (http://www.gofishin.com/index.cgi?cart_id=3932571.9383&mgf=2100000000&show_details=35848&cat=420&keywords=&nophoto=&sort=&tb=&hmn=&sw=31)
but it's jig.
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Great report. Thanks. It is always nice to hear some one offering help to greenies by sharing your knowledge and skill. Only confident fishermen will be doing this. Good job and salute. :)
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yofishon
heres a few tips on float fishing
Set the Depth of Your Float – You want your hook to travel approximately one foot or more off of the bottom. If the water you are fishing is four feet deep, set your float 3 feet above your lead. Remember, fish cannot see down as well as they can see up, so you want your offering to drift above the fish. They will rise to grab your hook, even during cold water conditions. As you begin to fish the run if you notice that your float is catching/jerking backward, your lead is probably hitting bottom so you will want to shorten the float’s position. Similarly, if you make several passes along a run and don’t catch a fish, try going a little deeper.
Keeping a close eye on your float will tell you a lot about the position of your hook. It should always precede your float down river. The ideal situation is to have your float standing straight up and down or slightly tilting up stream. If the top of your float is leaning down river, this means that your hook is dragging behind and to correct this situation you'll need to reel in your slack and pull back on the float.
If your float is tiling back a lot, your hook is probably traveling too high off the bottom. Try a heavier lead.
just some tips i read
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Britguy
Beauty ! Thanks for the outline , + rig details. It makes perfect sense.Can't wait til the fall . Is it common to have the weight right on the hook ?
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Hey Lex2000,
When I say "Use 2 shades of the same colour", what I mean is: use colour that is similar. The peach / orange combo works well for Coho. I also use 2 different shades of red (blood red / flame red), 2 different shades of Pink (cerise / bubblegym) etc......, so you get the idea.
I don't use a big profile of wool, even in coloured up water. I put the wool on the bait loop, and I will trim it down to about the size of a pea. Look at the various sizes of "Jensen Eggs". That will give you an idea of the size I trim it to.
Read what "Britguy" wrote on shortfloating ..... I can't add anymore to it, as he knows his stuff. So Britguy, what part of the old country are you from?
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Just to add abit of what c-pin says keep it small (i use tiny piece of pink or red feather) and you dont need a big hook
So Britguy, what part of the old country are you from?
Cleveland, North East Coast
I used to beach fish in the winter at night
sometimes it would be so cold my live bait(Lug\Rag worms) would freeze even though it was wrapped in newspaper
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Hey Britguy,
That is pretty cool. I was born in Oldham, Lancashire. As a kid, my Dad and I went to Bridlington to ocean fish. We would river fish when we went camping in Wales.
I was 12 when we moved, and of course, fishing quickly became the #1 pastime.
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yofishon
heres a few tips on float fishing
Set the Depth of Your Float – You want your hook to travel approximately one foot or more off of the bottom. If the water you are fishing is four feet deep, set your float 3 feet above your lead. Remember, fish cannot see down as well as they can see up, so you want your offering to drift above the fish. They will rise to grab your hook, even during cold water conditions. As you begin to fish the run if you notice that your float is catching/jerking backward, your lead is probably hitting bottom so you will want to shorten the float’s position. Similarly, if you make several passes along a run and don’t catch a fish, try going a little deeper.
Keeping a close eye on your float will tell you a lot about the position of your hook. It should always precede your float down river. The ideal situation is to have your float standing straight up and down or slightly tilting up stream. If the top of your float is leaning down river, this means that your hook is dragging behind and to correct this situation you'll need to reel in your slack and pull back on the float.
If your float is tiling back a lot, your hook is probably traveling too high off the bottom. Try a heavier lead.
just some tips i read
Very good point made ;) i'll add a bit to that to get you setup floating thru the strike zone. You need to control your drift with some tension. (easier with a pin in my mind)