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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on August 01, 2008, 08:28:46 PM

Title: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Rodney on August 01, 2008, 08:28:46 PM
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=111340&ID=recreational

This change should be temporary until the hatchery collects all the summer chinook broodstocks that are needed.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: BwiBwi on August 01, 2008, 08:41:26 PM
That's fast action.  Good news.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Robert_G on August 02, 2008, 12:48:16 PM
Its been an Obvious very slow year on the Vedder for Springs and im glad their giving that area a break,   i hope they put up a sign in various languages so they have no excuses when they catch the usual suspects up there

I've had a good year on the Vedder. 4 springs between my bro and I in 3 trips.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Gooey on August 02, 2008, 02:08:27 PM
You got lucky then robert...I am 4 trips 2 connections and one bonked and my dad has one jack for that same effort.  Very disappointing year for me.


so has the boundary just moved 100 meters down river from its current location?  Where exactly is the confluence they refer to?
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 02, 2008, 03:55:31 PM
  Where exactly is the confluence they refer to?

Slesse Creek
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: canoe man on August 02, 2008, 07:01:48 PM
ok i fish the vedder 1to 4 times a year
i dont really know the river that well
so could some one post a map
of these new boundarys
or could dfo put a big sign on the road
"NO FISHING BEYOND THIS POINT'

cnm
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Robert_G on August 02, 2008, 09:44:01 PM
ok i fish the vedder 1to 4 times a year
i dont really know the river that well
so could some one post a map
of these new boundarys
or could dfo put a big sign on the road
"NO FISHING BEYOND THIS POINT'

cnm

basically, the limit hole is now off limits.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: canoe man on August 02, 2008, 10:14:47 PM
thanks guys but the second ticket thing is what im trying to avoid  ;)
i think ill just stick to the mouth and look for somthing a little fresher
tia  cnm
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on August 02, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
This year seems to be a half decent year for me...I Have landed close to 20 springs in about 8 outings.

The Limit hole locals are not going to like the new regulation ;D

Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: BigFisher on August 03, 2008, 12:46:20 PM
canoe man   when you get your second ticket in less than a week,  you'll know your inside the no fishing boundary

lol  ;D
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Aki on August 03, 2008, 06:21:59 PM
There are some nice slots below the limit hole. Using wool and small presentations may help.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: armytruck on August 04, 2008, 11:40:36 AM
 It would have been nice to have that reg implemented at the Chehalis hatchery hole years ago !
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: chris gadsden on August 04, 2008, 08:18:07 PM
Was out on patrol with the CO today and a number of people were fishing there. Apparently the signs that had been posted had been torn down down. The boundary markers are in (triangles).
We passed out the notice and tacked up somemore.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: chris gadsden on August 05, 2008, 01:11:16 AM
Was out on patrol with the CO today and a number of people were fishing there. Apparently the signs that had been posted had been torn down down. The boundary markers are in (triangles).
We passed out the notice and tacked up somemore.

Any tickets written?
;D ;D
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: milo on August 05, 2008, 04:16:56 PM
Excellent move to close the Limit Hole area. :)
There was little fishing going on there...mostly snagging of the worst kind...with people ripping through the pools every cast!. >:(

I say keep it closed year-round!

Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: kingpin on August 05, 2008, 06:51:23 PM
hey quit listing all my favourite spots  :D
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: milo on August 05, 2008, 07:05:34 PM
Maybe we should close the canal, KWB, train bridge, brown road, lickman, peach, crossing, OTW, gun barrel, wilson road, boulders, tamahi, allison pools, fort apache, cedars run, thurston meadows, prison, borden, ranger, and slab too milo because I've seen a TON of snaggers there too!!!!!! Or maybe DFO and MoE can maybe do their jobs by implementing new regs to fix the problem and hire more officers to enforce the regs!? But why would people want that when everyone out there falls for the usual band-aid fix all the time?

Fish don't hold in those spots as long as they hold at the limit hole. Salmon don't migrate downstream, only upstream. If a fish has survived all the challenges of the lower, mid and upper river, they might as well get a break at the Limit hole - where they take a good rest before the final push to the hatchery.
Good decision, IMO.

Agreed on the DFO/MoE comment.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: adriaticum on August 05, 2008, 08:35:52 PM
I am not sure where the Limit Hole is but I was up by the hatchery this weekend and a million and a half flosers were plucking fish out of the water..
Dark boots and they still kill them.
They floss them, don't mark their licenses....
It's a free for all up there.
Fisheries people should have a station there for Christ's sake.

Since this is my first summer on the Chilliwack river I didn't have a good understanding of what Chris, Rodney and the guys were saying about the campers and their garbage last winter.
Now I know.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: dennyman on August 05, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
I guess DFO officers were too busy getting ready for the bottom bouncing test they are doing on the Fraser.  On another fishing site, a person said they called in some infractions, and DFO did not seem in too big a hurry to send an officer  to go out to the Vedder to enforce the regulations. I mean honestly if they are going to close their eye and let this sort of crap go on in broad daylight, I don't know why they go and bother writing up all the rules and regulations we are supposed to be abiding by when fishing for salmon.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: kingpin on August 05, 2008, 10:15:46 PM
they cant be everywhere you know, they simply dont have enough man power to cover all the rivers and lakes in one day  ::)

What would help if we could get more funding for more CO's and FO's in our province, and perhaps a change of regulations.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: dennyman on August 05, 2008, 10:26:55 PM
Kingpin, if DFO finds that they do not have the resources to do the job, then they should admit it and off load some of their duties to the province. Remember DFO if I am correct is under Federal jurisdiction. Too many times we as sportsmen make excuses for government agencies.  The old we don't have enough people to do the job is pretty old. We pay plenty of taxes in this country. Ask yourself where is all that money going???  Until a concerted joint effort between DFO, COs and the province is taken things will not get any better, and it will be the same old, same old for years to come on the Vedder.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: SnaggedADuck on August 05, 2008, 10:59:54 PM
Out of curiosity, how many people call in regulation infractions and see DFO officers arrive on site?  I hate seeing snagged fish being bonked or wild coho miss identified.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: dennisK on August 06, 2008, 06:54:55 AM
Out of curiosity, how many people call in regulation infractions and see DFO officers arrive on site?  I hate seeing snagged fish being bonked or wild coho miss identified.

and i hate how the DFO mismanaged the fish farms enabling sea lice which killed millions of salmon fry.

how do I go about issuing a ticket to the DFO?
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Funeral Of Hearts on August 06, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
Anyone here ever thought of becoming a CO? Put your money where your mouth is and see what its like on the other side of the fence. Maybe someone could try and make a difference from within the organization instead of sitting here complaing every time the subject comes up.
 ;D
Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: adriaticum on August 06, 2008, 02:06:57 PM
Just blowing bubbles again
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Rantalot on August 06, 2008, 03:46:39 PM
I tried but my grades were not good enough.I was too lazy at the time to go back to school and get better grades at the time you needed C+ average.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Steelhawk on August 06, 2008, 05:58:25 PM
Perhaps for this spring season, close the Slab too.  ;D

Both the Limit Hole and the Slab have too many fish stationing there for too long and thus become sitting targets. If the stock is in trouble, these spots should be closed until the Coho season.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: milo on August 06, 2008, 06:26:30 PM
Perhaps for this spring season, close the Slab too.  ;D

Both the Limit Hole and the Slab have too many fish stationing there for too long and thus become sitting targets. If the stock is in trouble, these spots should be closed until the Coho season.

Exactly, Steelhawk.
It is the 'stationing' as you rightly call it that makes them easy to snag. Sooner or later a hook at the end of a long leader finds a way into their flesh. :(
Glad to see there are more people who understand the nature of the problem.
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: buck on August 06, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
 Thanks for all the support on the closure of the limits hole even though its for a short duration. It's been an ongoing battle keeping anglers out of this area.
Fishery notices are torn down nearly as fast as they are put up. On a more positive note more springs are starting to show up at the hatchery. It still appears
that the majority of fish are 3 year olds, which predominately are males. The 4 year old componet of the run appears to be weak as it is on the Fraser.                   
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: chris gadsden on August 13, 2008, 09:03:56 PM
Stopped by this area this morning and six rods were working the area even though there was signs on a number of trees. To save the much needed fish for the hatchery I told them it was closed so they all moved on and were good about doing so.

Guess what, just as I was leaving the area too 2 FOC officers showed up.

I may have saved not only a chinook but a number of people hefty fines, I guess if I was in cell phone range I could have called the infractions in or maybe I should have gone to the Hatchery and used their phone.

What was more important saving a brood fish or maybe sacrificing a fish for the fines that could have been handed out?
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Marsman on August 14, 2008, 01:51:51 PM
Fish... Good job Chris.  People are becoming more and more ignorant about rules and regulations.  They have started to ignore everything and have an attitude that it is my right as a tax payer or something stupid like that.  I call in everything I see.  Just look at how people are ignoring all the signs and lines on the roads.  Sooner or later they will get burnt.  I was witness to a minor accident (no injuries) and made sure the blame went to the right person.  The guy that cut off the vehicle got blamed and not the rear ender.

Cheers, Rob
Title: Re: Change of upper Chilliwack River no fishing boundary
Post by: Every Day on August 14, 2008, 07:03:47 PM
Anyone here ever thought of becoming a CO? Put your money where your mouth is and see what its like on the other side of the fence. Maybe someone could try and make a difference from within the organization instead of sitting here complaing every time the subject comes up.
 ;D
Just my 2 cents.

That the plan..... I should be able to make it  ;D  As for the cement slab, I fished there once in my 4 years of fishing one Steelhead season, I was disguisted and never went back. Me and a friend went up there this spring to see the gong show, we were there a matter of 20 mins and saw a good 5 or 6 sockeye flossed and even a few springs  ::)  All I can do is laugh sometimes when they are all getting tangled, but it makes me feel bad that these fish have made it that far and are getting massacred by a bunch of snaggers  >:(