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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Darko on February 18, 2023, 08:34:22 PM

Title: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Darko on February 18, 2023, 08:34:22 PM
I have this quantum blue runner rod that is 7 ft, line wt 15-40, lure wt 1/2-4 oz its a pretty stiff rod probably for ocean fishing. I was wondering if you guys think it would suitable for amateur sturgeon fishing when I start doing that. Was thinking around foreshore park area or surrey dock. Lmk what ou guys think.. Would just be fishing from shore, nothing too crazy
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: 4x4 on February 19, 2023, 11:34:04 AM
If it's the rod I'm thinking it is it's a hard no. 2 pce and cheap?

I fish Sturgeon a lot from a boat and I've seen way to many shore fishers clueless about the equipment they are using.
Make sure you have a reel that can handle these fish and make sure you have enough line with the proper pound test (braid is best). I think the guidelines state 130# minimum. Most use 130# - 150#. I use 150# and 180# - 200# leader. A heavier leader aids in not cutting the fish if it rolls in the line... The last thing we need is a Sturgeon dragging a hundred yards of line because the fisher was not prepared properly.

Sturgeon are very powerful fish and when fishing for them use the right equipment to ensure you can land and release them as quickly and safely as possible. There are guidelines put out to educate anglers about about Sturgeon and fishing for them.

And please never ever put you hands in their gills. It gives them a bacteria that kills them just like Salmon and other fish.


https://www.fraserriversturgeon.com/blog/best-practices-when-catching-a-sturgeon

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/sports-recreation-arts-and-culture/outdoor-recreation/fishing-and-hunting/freshwater-fishing/ws_guidelines.pdf
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Darko on February 19, 2023, 05:27:10 PM
If it's the rod I'm thinking it is it's a hard no. 2 pce and cheap?

I fish Sturgeon a lot from a boat and I've seen way to many shore fishers clueless about the equipment they are using.
Make sure you have a reel that can handle these fish and make sure you have enough line with the proper pound test (braid is best). I think the guidelines state 130# minimum. Most use 130# - 150#. I use 150# and 180# - 200# leader. A heavier leader aids in not cutting the fish if it rolls in the line... The last thing we need is a Sturgeon dragging a hundred yards of line because the fisher was not prepared properly.

Sturgeon are very powerful fish and when fishing for them use the right equipment to ensure you can land and release them as quickly and safely as possible. There are guidelines put out to educate anglers about about Sturgeon and fishing for them.

And please never ever put you hands in their gills. It gives them a bacteria that kills them just like Salmon and other fish.


https://www.fraserriversturgeon.com/blog/best-practices-when-catching-a-sturgeon

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/sports-recreation-arts-and-culture/outdoor-recreation/fishing-and-hunting/freshwater-fishing/ws_guidelines.pdf

thank you for sharing 4x4, yes it is a two piece, I know that the reel and line would need to be of high caliber, I was wondering if this rod would work for catching small sturgeon. How important is the rod in the setup? Would this stiff stick make do or should I just get rid of it. Not really much other use for it that I could think of
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Old Blue on February 19, 2023, 05:30:24 PM
Great post 4X4.

Look at the Daiwa Proteus, Okuma PCH both Heavy sizes.  Anything similar would be ok too.

Always use circle hooks, I use 6/0 to 9/0.  You''ll up your landing ratio and also will not harm the fish.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Old Blue on February 19, 2023, 05:32:05 PM
thank you for sharing 4x4, yes it is a two piece, I know that the reel and line would need to be of high caliber, I was wondering if this rod would work for catching small sturgeon. How important is the rod in the setup? Would this stiff stick make do or should I just get rid of it. Not really much other use for it that I could think of

You can't exactly target "smaller fish", I've caught 2 footers and 6 1/2 footers in back to back casts from shore before
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: dennisK on February 19, 2023, 07:08:28 PM
I have this quantum blue runner rod that is 7 ft, line wt 15-40, lure wt 1/2-4 oz its a pretty stiff rod probably for ocean fishing. I was wondering if you guys think it would suitable for amateur sturgeon fishing when I start doing that. Was thinking around foreshore park area or surrey dock. Lmk what ou guys think.. Would just be fishing from shore, nothing too crazy

No problem. The chances you hooking into moby dick is 4.7%. The remainder 95.3% you will be hooking into smaller sturgeon. And if you do end up hooking into big white you will have a story to tell your grandkids.

Onward.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Darko on February 19, 2023, 08:05:46 PM
No problem. The chances you hooking into moby dick is 4.7%. The remainder 95.3% you will be hooking into smaller sturgeon. And if you do end up hooking into big white you will have a story to tell your grandkids.

Onward.
haha you are the best  ;D
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: 4x4 on February 20, 2023, 12:03:45 PM
thank you for sharing 4x4, yes it is a two piece, I know that the reel and line would need to be of high caliber, I was wondering if this rod would work for catching small sturgeon. How important is the rod in the setup? Would this stiff stick make do or should I just get rid of it. Not really much other use for it that I could think of

You're welcome Darko,

Like Old Blue said, you can't exactly target smaller fish from shore. You never know what size you get until it's hooked. The largest fish I've hooked was 25 yards from shore (in my boat) in an area where we know big fish hang out. A proper rod is very important and you will soon realize that when you get a big fish on.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: GordJ on February 22, 2023, 07:40:30 AM
Aren’t you the person that posted about leaving a full spool of braid in the water? And now you want to cheap out on gear for the largest freshwater fish in the world?
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Darko on February 22, 2023, 08:50:22 AM
Aren’t you the person that posted about leaving a full spool of braid in the water? And now you want to cheap out on gear for the largest freshwater fish in the world?
yea I posted about a mistake I made that I learned from. You got something nice to say? If you read my post and thought a little bit, you would not have made that comment.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: GordJ on February 22, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
yea I posted about a mistake I made that I learned from. You got something nice to say? If you read my post and thought a little bit, you would not have made that comment.
You’re posting about using light tackle on big fish. Apparently you never learned anything after letting loose a bunch of “forever” braid the last time. I read your post but that doesn’t mean that you learned anything. Why would you try to fish for sturgeon with non sturgeon gear? You’re not smarter than everybody else so get the appropriate gear and quit trying to cheap out. There’s enough garbage in the river now.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: clarki on February 22, 2023, 03:43:27 PM
Gord, I hope we can cut a teenager who is passionate about fishing a bit of slack.

Darko, I would expect that the halibut rod in this post http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=44570.0 would be adequate for sturgeon. If you want it (for free), it’s yours.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Phronesis on February 22, 2023, 04:04:24 PM
You’re posting about using light tackle on big fish. Apparently you never learned anything after letting loose a bunch of “forever” braid the last time. I read your post but that doesn’t mean that you learned anything. Why would you try to fish for sturgeon with non sturgeon gear? You’re not smarter than everybody else so get the appropriate gear and quit trying to cheap out. There’s enough garbage in the river now.

He asked a question, you could answer it whether that rod would work or no - its as simple as that. Why assume that he wants to cheap out etc.......he could've tried it without asking the question here
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: GordJ on February 22, 2023, 04:32:40 PM
He wants to use a rod rated for 10-40 lb line and 4 oz lures  to fish for fish that need 60-90 lbs test and up to 22 oz weights. What part of that is ethical or reasonable? He ignored the first post and carries on trying to justify his theory and he has already left enough line in the water. I understand that he is an eager young fisher but someone has to be the one to say no and he doesn't seem to understand subtlety. If you want to fish ethically you have to have the right gear. Good intentions don't do it.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: firstlight on February 22, 2023, 05:12:38 PM
Very nice of you clarki.
I hope the op jumps at this offer.
Everyone should try fishing for Sturgeon at least a few times.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Darko on February 22, 2023, 07:15:25 PM
thank you Clarki for your offer and generosity. Gord, my question was just a question of if this rod is worth keeping for my goal of fishing for small sturgeon. It is short, and too stiff for salmon or steelhead and I don't know what else to do with it and I had that idea and wanted an opinion from people who know more than me. Again not sure if my point got across but I probably wouldn't even try for a year or two in the future.. Just too busy with school and other things, also don't have 400$ to drop on a sturgeon setup I might use a handful of times, as I am a young student. Does that not seem reasonable to you? Seems like with your logic I shouldn't even fish without simms waders or 300$ polarized shades. (OFC I'm exaggerating, and I understand your worry of me catching a 200 lb sturgeon)
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: iblly on February 23, 2023, 09:34:26 AM
Holy harsh Gordo. Just a young dude seeking some advice. I hope you’ve reread your posts and thought “wow I may have been a bit of a tool there”
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: iblly on February 23, 2023, 09:49:10 AM
Darko the shore setup I used for years was a ten foot ugly stick, medium heavy, rated to only 30 lb test. Penn 321 reel. 60 lb braid. Not an overly expensive set up and never had any issues landing a fish with the biggest being a 7 footer years ago at the mouth of the coquihalla.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: redside1 on February 23, 2023, 10:15:05 AM
looking for a budget priced shore fishing rod, check out the Daiwa Beefstik series of rods. Heavy action 10', 11' & 12' spin rods available for reasonable prices.
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: RalphH on February 23, 2023, 10:21:27 AM
Holy harsh Gordo. Just a young dude seeking some advice. I hope you’ve reread your posts and thought “wow I may have been a bit of a tool there”

nailed it!
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: Darko on February 23, 2023, 02:45:17 PM
thank you iblly and redside for sharing! I appreciate it
Title: Re: Would this rod qualify as an amateur sturgeon rod?
Post by: iblly on February 23, 2023, 06:12:47 PM
You’re welcome. Happy to pass along some knowledge, might be limited knowledge but happy to pass it along.