Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: RalphH on January 05, 2013, 11:56:46 AM
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I got into a discussion with some one who was really opinionated . He said anything bigger than a 2 was just flossing and snagging tackle and for a fish in the 10 to 15 pound range a #4 was fine. While I think that part is true as far as it goes hook size needs to be matched to the size of the bait or presentation. For example with a bigger bait - like a prawn I want a bigger hook so the fish grabs hooks anytime it takes the bait .
What size do you prefer or use most of the time? Why do you vary it?
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hook size needs to be matched to the size of the bait or presentation
Exactly what you said, it depends on the bait,lure,etc.
Generally, if I am using something small like a tiny tuff of wool and a Jensen egg or two i will use a size 4. If I'm using bait such as roe or prawn I will use a size 1.
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. He said anything bigger than a 2 was just flossing and snagging tackle and for a fish in the 10 to 15 pound range a #4 was fine.
I have seen a lot of flossers or snaggers using #4 hooks too. It is all about your intention.
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Exactly what you said, it depends on the bait,lure,etc.
Generally, if I am using something small like a tiny tuff of wool and a Jensen egg or two i will use a size 4. If I'm using bait such as roe or prawn I will use a size 1.
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I never go bigger than size 1 for steelhead, but it doesn't mean you can't....totally depends on what you're using for presentation ie...6 inch rubber worms or size 4 blades or even a 21/25 ct prawn.
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What about water conditions and type of water being fished? In rivers like the chilliwack when it's blown and as clear as the fraser I'll use a 2/0. Usually blown out water conditions mean big and fast water and there's more "bite" with that hook compared to a smaller one and the fish won't necessarily see it. My go to hook though is a #1 in most conditions, and a #2 in low clear conditions. Crossing area is a #1 or #2 type of water, while tamahi is a 1/0 type of water (all these are in ideal water levels and visibility)
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What about water conditions and type of water being fished? In rivers like the chilliwack when it's blown and as clear as the fraser I'll use a 2/0. Usually blown out water conditions mean big and fast water and there's more "bite" with that hook compared to a smaller one and the fish won't necessarily see it. My go to hook though is a #1 in most conditions, and a #2 in low clear conditions. Crossing area is a #1 or #2 type of water, while tamahi is a 1/0 type of water (all these are in ideal water levels and visibility)
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Size 2 for steelhead most of the time. Size 1 sometimes. Depends on the water conditions.Have landed many large steelhead on size 2 hooks.Make sure its a quality hook that doesnt straighten out on the bigger fish.I feel a smaller hook does less damage to fish you intend to release.Would never ever go bigger then a size 1,simply no need for a larger hook then a size 1 for steelhead on our local rivers.If the river is blown,fish cant see your offering anyways so using a bigger hook makes no sense.
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defintely depends on what your fishing for and water conditions......
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I use #1 and #2 black or red depending what my lure is.
If I'm fishing bugs I use a 1/0 because the way I rig the bug Works better with a larger gap.
In really low water / sunny days I might use a #4 but I try not to for steel unless it's really low.
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If I'm using big bait(raw shrimp, bugs) I'll use up to a 2/0, my leader is always under a foot, if someone came along and called me a flosser I'm thinking he best not be standing between me and the water. ;)
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If I'm using big bait(raw shrimp, bugs) I'll use up to a 2/0, my leader is always under a foot, if someone came along and called me a flosser I'm thinking he best not be standing between me and the water. ;)
Interesting - the person in question was a tackle store clerk. I had asked for 2/0s and when he told me I should not use anything bigger than a#2 I told him I wanted bigger hooks for prawn tails. He then made some remarks about flossing and snagging as in unless I was fishing chinooks anything big was flossing and snagging tackle. The stupid thing is I didn't ask to speak to the store manager and tell the manager the guy had a) not provided me what I'd asked for and b) insulted me. I just wanted to get out of there.
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The size of hook just makes it easier to snag fish . On the vedder usually #1 but sometimes 1/0 ans down to a #2 smaller bait smaller hook big bait big hook . Also if the bite is light it will be easier to set the finer wire hook like a #2 or #4 ..... food for thought
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considering the numbers of steelies in river, I wonder how one can intensionally trying to snag fish
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considering the numbers of steelies in river, I wonder how one can intensionally trying to snag fish
See one sitting in a tail out or pocket water or even sit at a pocket all day every day flossing it.
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1 and 2,s
Mostly only use 1,s for worms 4 inch or bigger.
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I sometimes use 1/0s with my rubber worms, I just have more confidence with a bigger hook when my bait is that big, and if they're chasing down a 4" or 6" worm, an extra hook size bigger probably isn't going to affect their final decision. Aside from that I usually use #1s and #2s