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[Jack Straw]

And to add...being a March 12th derby lets not forget that the remaining run of wild fish will be in full swing at this point in the season and the man made hatchery fish will be winding down. Our beautiful wild char will be showing up for the fry feast & don't need the extra pressure brought on by a for-profit meat derby.

With warm weather & longer days the river is already a very busy place at this time of year, especially on the weekend...why invite another 100 plus anglers to an already overcrowded ecosystem...can our remaining wild fish take the added pressures associated with derbies?

I feel bad for those steelhead anglers that can only get out on weekends. Finally a chance to hit the river and Whammo! There's a derby on your day off...wtf!!

[cutthroat22]

I don't think a fishing derby on the Vedder would have any more impact by anglers than a nice sunny long weekend would.

[lucky]

And to add...being a March 12th derby lets not forget that the remaining run of wild fish will be in full swing at this point in the season and the man made hatchery fish will be winding down. Our beautiful wild char will be showing up for the fry feast & don't need the extra pressure brought on by a for-profit meat derby.

With warm weather & longer days the river is already a very busy place at this time of year, especially on the weekend...why invite another 100 plus anglers to an already overcrowded ecosystem...can our remaining wild fish take the added pressures associated with derbies?

I feel bad for those steelhead anglers that can only get out on weekends. Finally a chance to hit the river and Whammo! There's a derby on your day off...wtf!!

With this kind of statement one would think that derby participants only fish when there are derbies? I would hazard a guess to say that most participants would be fishing the river anyways regardless of whether or not a derby is taking place.

[milo]

If the pro-derby crowd still isn't convinced why a steelhead derby isn't a good thing for the fish (no derby is, really), so be it.
Pay your fee, take part and continue being happy.

Those of us who have come to realize the negative impact of yet another non-conservation oriented derby will stay off the river that day.

Peace.

[alwaysfishn]

This thread is hilarious!

Reasons that fishing derbys should be banned:  
... "fishing derby's are a disgrace"
... "they don't contribute anything to the welfare of the river or the fish"
... "The killing of all the fish would be just to pound some chests and get some prizes"
... "it's just feeding egos"
... "It all seems to be about prizes prizes prizes"

Can I add?

... "you'll just end up taking the steelhead home and eating it!"   

[joska]

 

This thread is hilarious!

this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?

[bigblue]

this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?

Maybe, because this derby is named after a large wet rodent with a worm like tail?
Don't know if I would want to be labeled one of those creatures at my age.

[Fish Assassin]

this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?

Because the other organizer is not a member of FWR while Rick is ?

[armytruck]

 British Columbia
  Invermere Station Pub Derby  Jan 2011 Invermere 
  Sidney Anglers Winter Derby  Jan 2011 Sidney website 
  Nicola Valley Fish and Game Club Ice Fishing Derby  Jan 2011 Merritt 
  Family Fishing Derby  Jan 2011 Cranbrook website 
  Hwy 24/Interlakes Lions Club Ice Fishing Derby  Feb 2011 Sheridan Lake website 
  Woodbury Dolly Derby  Apr 2011 Kootenay Lake website 
  Annual BC Open  Apr 2011 Shawnigan Lake website 
  Elk Lake Annual Fishing Derby  Apr 2011 Victoria website 
  Sidney Anglers Premier Derby  Apr 2011 Sidney website 
  Christina Lake Marina Fishing Derby  May 2011 Christina Lake website 
  Gold River Annual Fallers Derby  May 2011 Gold River 
  Sidney Anglers Spring Derby  May 2011 Sidney website 
  Port Sidney's Annual Salmon Derby  May 2011 Sidney website 
  Just For the 'Halibut' Derby  May 2011 Victoria website 
  Cultus Lake Pikeminnow Derby  June 2011 Cultus Lake website 
  Prince Rupert Legion Annual Fish Derby  June 2011 Prince Rupert website 
  Sidney Anglers Presidents Derby  June 2011 Sidney website 
  Watch Lake / Green Lake Annual Fishing Derby  June 2011 Watch Lake website 
  Wannabee Anglers Cup  June 2011 Victoria 
  Fathers Day Derby at Zuiderze Resort  June 2011 Nanaimo  website 
  Lac La Hache Father's Day Fishing Derby  June 2011 Lac La Hache website 
  Rotary Fishing Derby  June 2011 Penticton website 
  Steveston Bullhead Derby  June 2011 Steveston website 
  13th Annual Stuart Lake Fishing Derby  June 2011 Fort St. James 
  Rivers Inlet Sportsmans Club Derbies  July 2011 Rivers Inlet website 
  Shearwater Family Fishing Week Derby  July 2011 Shear Water Resort website 
  Stuart Lake Annual Fishing Derby  July 2011 Fort St. James website 
  Huck Finn Fishing Derby  July 2011 Campbell River website 
  Davey Derby  July 2011 Port Renfrew website 
  Small Fry Fishing Derby  July 2011 Campbell River website 
  FILOMI Days Fishing Derby  July 2011 Port Hardy website 
  Lillooet Sturgeon Fishing Derby  July 2011 lillooet website 
  Puntzi Lake fishing derby  July 2011 Chilanko Forks website 
  Vancouver Marina Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Vancouver website 
  Deka Lake & District VFD Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Deka Lake 
  Chase Salmon Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Chase website 
  Westview Marina's Annual Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Tahsis website 
  Consultants Invitational Annual Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Victoria website 
  Pink Salmon Festival  Aug 2011 Sooke website 
  Esquimalt Anglers Annual Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Esquimalt website 
  Moutcha Bay Kayak Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Moutcha Bay website 
  Lillooet Lions Club Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Lillooet website 
  Bamfield Volunteer Fire Department Salmon Fish ...  Aug 2011 Bamfield website 
  Comox Bullhead Derby  Aug 2011 Comox website 
  Huu-ay-aht First Nations Salmon Derby  Aug 2011 Bamfield website 
  Port Renfrew Labour Day Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Port Renfrew website 
  Sulphurous Lake VFD Fishing Derby  Aug 2011 Sulphurous Lake website 
  Sooke Salmon Enhancement Salmon Derby  Aug 2011 Sooke website 
  Family Fun Fishing Derby  Sept 2011 Swan Lake 
  North King Lodge Coho Salmon Derby 1  Sept 2011 Caamano Sound website 
  Port Renfrew Marina Annual Coho Derby  Sept 2011 Port Renfrew website 
  Sidney Anglers Roundup Derby  Sept 2011 Sidney website 
  TYEE KAYAK SURFING DERBY  Sept 2011 Nootka Sound website 
  Gibbs Take a Kid Fishing Derby  Sept 2011  website 
  Vancouver Island Salmon Classic  Sept 2011 Sooke website 
  Hot Winter Fishing Derby  Oct 2011 Fraser Valley 
  Woodbury Rainbow Derby  Oct 2011 Kootenay Lake website 
  Grouse River Outfitters Okanagan Classic Open ...  Oct 2011 Osoyoos website 
  Browns Bay Chum Derby  Oct 2011 Campbell River 
  Gerrard Rainbow Derby  Nov 2011 Kaslo Bay 
  Boxing Day Steelhead Derby  Dec 2011 Chilliwack website
Go have yourself a good time and enjoy 

[bbronswyk2000]

this is hilarious. how can this derby be so wrong and hated by most, while the other derby thread is a totally a different story?

Ricks derby was going to donate most of the monies back into the river. This derby is purely for the anglers and not the fish.

I dont care if you like derbies or not its a personal choice as is everything in life. This is a forum where we express our opinions and lots of us here feel derbies like these are nothing more than to feed the ego.

I personally dont kill any steelhead ever so its a no brainer to me.

[firstlight]

Wow,have we found a subject to replace the flossing threads?

Pretty sad when some guys cant get together and have a little fun.

BB,Milo, are you guys going to the Chum derby this year?

[bcguy]

In those sports your not killing anything plus it does not take money to keep the sport going. This fishery that everyone enjoys on the Vedder or any other hatchery enhanced river takes money to make it sustainable. The more money to the hatcheries and restoration means more fishing opportunities. Now if their is no money than that means no fish.

I played competitive sports most of my life. To me fishing is not a competitive sport. Its a relaxing hobby that I enjoy with friends.

The fishery everyone enjoys on the Veddar is enhanced through the purchase of our freshwater licenses, and additional tags, just like derby's held every year on lakes, and in the oceans, the money to support these endeavors comes from licencing, and yes, sometimes, it is all about the chest pounding, just like scoring a goal, or hitting a home run, or participating in a body building show.Many amateur sports do receive funding from govt (or used to before the Liberals got in there)

[joska]

Because the other organizer is not a member of FWR while Rick is ?

Ricks derby was going to donate most of the monies back into the river. This derby is purely for the anglers and not the fish.
I dont care if you like derbies or not its a personal choice as is everything in life. This is a forum where we express our opinions and lots of us here feel derbies like these are nothing more than to feed the ego.
I personally dont kill any steelhead ever so its a no brainer to me.

its not what you know or who you know in this fishing "world" its who you bl*w... i was at the boxing day derby and was the first of many i hope.  it was nice to have a few anglers around to help out with some rookie centerpin questions...  feeding the ego the fish porn site does that does it not?

[milo]

Wow,have we found a subject to replace the flossing threads?

Pretty sad when some guys cant get together and have a little fun.
BB,Milo, are you guys going to the Chum derby this year?

Don't know about Bobo, but I am...we are organizing a big memorial to our ChumMaster skipper Dennis Devereaux who passed away recently. the likes of IronNoggin, Liptugger, Comoxian and others will be there. It will be my last chum derby ever.
And, just like in previous years when Dennis was alive, we will NOT partake in the weigh-in and other prize related activities because for us it is not about that.

Besides, Bruce, a little controversy doesn't hurt.
Like in: you fish for sturgeon , I don't. You don't floss sockeye, I do. I am way more ethical than you! 

[hazardmatt]

the likes of IronNoggin, Liptugger, Comoxian and others will be there.

Why do you need to point out who will be attending, I doubt anyone cares...?  I find it B.S how a few clowns on here are bashing this guys derby.

All you guys saying that derbys are the devil need to really pull your heads out of your bum and quit making a fool of yourself.The river is a GONGSHOW already, and only hatcherys would be killed anyways.....what they are there for lol.