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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: frozensalmon on April 24, 2012, 11:37:43 PM
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so I just checked the regulation, hatchery coho fishing is not allowed before June 1 ,
below the bridge at the mouth of capilano river , which is tidal water of area 29
and if im fishing just above the bridge which is the fresh water part of cap, it's ok right?
also I heard before there is some sort of reservation part of cap for the natives, probably around the mouth of the river, anyone can confirm ??
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The tidal portion of the Capilano River and Ambleside estuary area is in Area 28, not 29.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s28-eng.htm
Salmon quotas of non-tidal portion of the Capilano River is at:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.htm
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awwww just a few months away from the cap and I forgot about the cap is in 28 =(
thx Rodney
and about the native part thing is it true
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The spit on the east side of the mouth of the Cap is FN land.
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just google the this map : http://clss.nrcan.gc.ca/data-donnees/maps/capilano5rI.pdf
does it mean I cant fish in the part where the red line boundary is ?
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both sides of the river between the marine drive bridge down to the silver train bridge is native fishing only. Below the train bridge at the mouth of the river is open to you on the west side only and the east side is also native fishing only.Hope this helps! That map is not relevant to your question in relation to boundaries! The squamish nation have fisheries guardians and if you find yourself somewhere you shouldn't, they will simply direct you to the appropriate area of which you are allowed to be. Thos little cohos should start trickling in any day now i.If they haven't already
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thx dude!
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Has anyone seen people fishing the mouth yet?
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im thinking about going at the end of the month
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I remember I hit a really good number of fish around the 4th of May, so soon
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Actually, native land extends from the east side of the capilano from the marine drive bridge down to the CPR bridge. HOWEVER, native land DOES NOT extend between the entire length from the marine drive bridge adown to the CPR bridge. In fact, anyone can fish a small portion below the bridge.
For those who would like to, you can take a peek at the greater vancouver map and zoom in on the capilano and see for yourself. I am in the works of getting a better map as well.
http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca/StatisticsBySubject/Geography/ReferenceMaps/RDs.aspx
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Actually it is all native land but the public has been allowed to fish from the west side from the train bridge down to the salt chuk!
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(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu44/cutthroat2222/cap2.jpg)
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu44/cutthroat2222/cap.jpg)
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went and fished the mouth of the cap today, no action on spinners. how do you guys normally fish for cap coho? drift a float? bottom fish? or lures? the current was pretty strong..
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went and fished the mouth of the cap today, no action on spinners. how do you guys normally fish for cap coho? drift a float? bottom fish? or lures? the current was pretty strong..
I haven't fished the mouth for a few years now but when I did I used buzz bombs and spinners. For the most part early morning and following the tides along with good roe will usually give you good results but not at the mouth. In the canyon or anywhere a good pool exists. Good Luck !!!
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went and fished the mouth of the cap today, no action on spinners. how do you guys normally fish for cap coho? drift a float? bottom fish? or lures? the current was pretty strong..
You need waders to fish the mouth of the cap, if you want to reach the fish. Rod has an article on it, but what you do is go during very low tide, walk on the tiny islands that are exposed only then. When you get there, you will notice you are south east of where the native fish from east shore. I'm sure you'll see tons of people their already during peak season.
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went and fished the mouth of the cap today, no action on spinners. how do you guys normally fish for cap coho? drift a float? bottom fish? or lures? the current was pretty strong..
When i fish at the mouth of the cap, i strictly use spinner or spoon. Float fishing at the canyon area . Fly fishing at the later month.
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fishing spoon is better if there's sunlight from my experience last year
I never fish at the mouth of cap , about to try maybe later May looks like it's still too early
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So what you are showing us is that the land between Marine Drive bridge and CPR bridge is native land. :)
I even asked a CO once and he also confirmed that I can't fish there (without permission) as it was First Nations land.
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu44/cutthroat2222/cap.jpg)
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how about the little piece of land just below the golf course?
anyone have success before?
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Went up to the canyon today in search of coho.
Was using a 6lb leader and on my second cast my float went under. I set the hook and I thought it was snagged cuz it didn't give and it felt like a rock until I saw the flash. It was huge.
My 6lb fluoro didn't stand a chance and he broke off. I quickly switched to a 12lb leader and it didnt take long for my float to dip again. I never got to see that hog again but managed to land 3 fish.
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woooh nice to hear that
I guess I can make my move sooner than later May !
how big are the 3 you caught?! around 8~10 lb?! super chrome?
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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THEY HAVE ARRIVED!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I thought there was going to be some peace and quiet this year for the first little bit. By the way, you probably hooked a steelhead, they are in the river spawning at this time, please release all steelhead, both winter run's and the super chrome summer steelhead that enter the river prior and with the coho. Identify the fish properly prior to wacking it on the head. No steelhead can be retained both hatchery and wild fish are to be released. Please don't target spawning steelhead in the tailouts of pools, they are very obvious to see, leave them to spawn.
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What were the 3 fish you landed? Steelhead? Coho? Trout?
John
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The first wave of coho are always 2lbs or less. Definately a Steelhead, please learn how to identify all of the salmon species before you decide to fish the Cap. Just because it has a clipped adapose fin doesn't mean you can bonk it. Every year this happens, over anxious, excited fisherman see a clipped fin and BONK..
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Was there last week, and the only thing I spotted were 2 steelies.
While going back I met a guy who just came down the river by kayak and he didn't see any coho either.
The only thing that bit that day was the girlfriend :-\
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woooh nice to hear that
I guess I can make my move sooner than later May !
how big are the 3 you caught?! around 8~10 lb?! super chrome?
All wthin 4-9lbs. First one was colored up but the 2nd and 3rd where chrome.
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What were the 3 fish you landed? Steelhead? Coho? Trout?
John
Sorry guys i realized I didn't mention it was steelhead in my earlier post. 2 hatchery and one wild. All released with care.
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Has anyone had any luck with coho on the cap yet?
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Went out today (30th april) and Friday (27th april). no Coho, but released a steelhead. looking back on my note book i caught some small coho as early as april 23rd last year so no reason they shouldnt be around. Would love to hear if any body has hooked these tasty little "@3#%^!
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With a river as small and heavily fished as the cap I'd be surprised if anyone admits to catching coho already. I'm surprised people are admitting to catching steelhead now that gear season on the vedder is done! Doesn't make any sense, unless you like fishing in crowds ... then you'll be in luck! And don't think cause you caught some fish "in the canyon" that nobody will find your spot. There are no secret spots on the cap.
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With a river as small and heavily fished as the cap I'd be surprised if anyone admits to catching coho already. I'm surprised people are admitting to catching steelhead now that gear season on the vedder is done! Doesn't make any sense, unless you like fishing in crowds ... then you'll be in luck! And don't think cause you caught some fish "in the canyon" that nobody will find your spot. There are no secret spots on the cap.
There were a few secret spots on the Cap up until 2-3 years ago, now you are lucky if you can find 5ft of free space on any given day. First light to last light there is an army fisherman flogging every square foot of river space. This time of year always makes me laugh at what people will do for a tiny coho. I feel bad for the few remaining Steelhead in the river, hopefully they will be left alone to do their spawn dance, but we all know that won't happen. Let the beek show at the Cable Pool begin, the absolute worst fishing ethics I have ever seen on any river happen there. IMO it should be closed to fishing for good..
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Plus it's not like you're guaranteed fish like Pink season. Even vedder steelhead will bite all day but the cap coho bite may be on for 30 minutes and that's it for the day. So if you're not in the right spot at the right time with the right bait, you're screwed. Well unless you're at cable pool. The my friend-mouth ,fin-mouth and belly-mouth bite is usually on all day.
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Went to the cap for a couple of hours, didn't hook anything , water level is at level 4 . They should be in anytime soon.
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yargh, it be a sad evening for sure when people be gettin' excited about runt silvers on the capilano. aye, the captain does spend a few evenings every june on the river to land a few grisle but it ain't but what she used to be. There be silvers in that river some 10 months of the year me hearties, so breath deep and don't be a worrying about getting yours and mine.
Dude you crack me up!!! ;D
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Bring on the rain!
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Well, I just took a look at the cap on my way back from another fishing trip elsewhere. I took a look at the canyon and hatchery. The canyon had no signs of fish in it, just a little steely sitting in a tailout. There were roe stains, fishing line and bits and pieces of wool left on all the rocks. Again, please pick up after yourselves. They should be here in numbers in the next 2 weeks or so.
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I won't be hitting the river till at least mid june... its true the river has been declining in fish numbers :(... i remember twelve years ago the runs were much bigger.
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fish are always less in ubran area lakes or river in any place in the world while human pupulation grows, no way to prevent that , people will just get their fish or damage the nature river by just hooking every little fish
don't know if the fishery will consider close the fishing in cap some day in the future to help the population of the salmon for some years
if they do i will be one to support I mean i love this river the most in this city but i don't want to kill the river
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When I fish the Cap in the spring/summer I don't expect there to be any fish resting. What I do expect, if I time it right, is for a school or a few schools to swim upstream and hopefully I can intercept them.
Sometimes I go out in what I think are perfect conditions and I will see zero fish. Other times I have gone out in less then ideal conditions and seen 100 fish swim by in schools.
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fish are always less in ubran area lakes or river in any place in the world while human pupulation grows, no way to prevent that , people will just get their fish or damage the nature river by just hooking every little fish
don't know if the fishery will consider close the fishing in cap some day in the future to help the population of the salmon for some years
if they do i will be one to support I mean i love this river the most in this city but i don't want to kill the river
That's a nice thought frozensalmon. Lucky for us the cap is and has been for some years [since the 70's/80's if I'm not mistaken] what is safe to say almost a 90% hatchery return of fish, with the other 10% "wilds" consisting of hatchery fish who spawn in the mainstem, and up brothers creek [and above cleveland dam - see below].
Although nothing is certain regarding ocean survival, a partial explanation, IF in fact the hatch fishery number is decreasing on the cap, I would say it has something to do with the government's decreased interest in DFO funding [which may also include hatcheries] over the past several years - which they are going to continue doing well into the future.
Then again - that is just my educated guess and not based on any hard facts.
On a positive note, the GVRD does take surplus broodstock -coho and steelhead to my knowledge- above cleveland dam to spawn naturally in the small tribs in the watershed area. The juvenile fish are then collected by traps in cap lake the following season and transported safely below the falls. So in essence the cap has two hatcheries! Therefore there should be a good number of fish returning for years to come!
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Cool info. I knew they transported the excess fish above the dam but didn't know they trapped the smolts. I think we're pretty lucky to have a fishery right in the middle of a major city, and especially such a beautiful setting.
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(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu44/cutthroat2222/cap.jpg)
Just to confirm, the highlighted area on the map is the prohibited fishing area for non native individuals unless given permission by an individual who legally has rights to the land.
Am I correct?
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Below the bridge you're all good to go to the park on the west side and fish the mouth. Pretty much you wanna to go at low tide and wade out to the island by the piling marker and start hucking flies or casting spoons. Remember you need a salt license too, good luck and maybe I'll see you out there next week.
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cohos are in the system . i have seen a guy landed nice 2 pounder . get your gears ready and go gang bang those little hoes.
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in the mouth?
2 pound, sounds like early coho are little guys
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no at the cable pool and i saw a couple more. tried to trick them but failed. they were good amount of steelheads though but they also didn't interested in any of my offers ???
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With the water being as low as it has been those fish have probably been in there for a while. And why target steelhead? By now they are spawned out and should be left alone.
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and so it begins...
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Was there on Monday (just for a walk), and didn't spot anything but a couple of steelies and a trout (I think it was) in cable pool.
So if youre a nice responsible person and don't target the steelies, its not wort it yet..
A little more patience.... ;)
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and so it begins...
Welcome to lower mainland salmon fishing
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Im going to make some popcorn! Sit back and enjoy the show!
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Water level at the cap is low this morning , only at level 2.
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Water level at the cap is low this morning , only at level 2.
Just came back from a short trip this morning. Water is moving a bit on the slow side. No action to report of.
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I was there yesterday morning as well slow and no fish
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Everybody needs to calm down just a little bit. The early run of coho, up until mid June, are 3lbs at the biggest. There is no reason for there to be fishing reports every day from the Capilano. Capilano report, no fish, Capilano report, no fish, Capilano report, I got a 7 incher, wow cool story bro. It blows my f^#$@%g mind. For this time of year the river is absolutely crawling with people. I think it's a direct result of threads like this. Beeks everywhere using treble hooks, doing the old grip and rip into a pod of steelhead trying to spawn. LEAVE THE SPAWNERS ALONE!!!!!!!
On a side note, I spoke to another angler friend of mine, he claims he saw a Summer Steelhead get a rock shampoo the other day, by another angler who should know better. So, one of the 9 remaining summer run Steelhead in the Cap has been killed. If you plan on fishing the Cap, please learn the difference between a Steelhead and a Coho. They are not the same, just because it has a clipped fin does not mean you can kill it. Drives me nuts. If you plan on fishing from the Cable Pool, learn how to properly land a fish there, without dragging it up the cliff with your 30lb leader, 100lb braid, and halibut rod.
I do realize that these coho are put here for us to catch and kill, they are 100% hatchery fish, but this is getting rediculous. Rant over, tight lines...
Oh, Capilano river report, I caught no fish, but I did speak to 7 other anglers who also caught no fish. So, therefore, there are no numbers yet. But that wont stop the 100 guys from trying tomorrow...
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Yes, it was Rudy that killed that summer run. He has been around for many years. He claimed it was a spring but anyone with a brain knows a summer looks different. Way to go Rudy!
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Yes, it was Rudy that killed that summer run. He has been around for many years. He claimed it was a spring but anyone with a brain knows a summer looks different. Way to go Rudy!
I hope you reported it!!!!
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Yes, it was Rudy that killed that summer run. He has been around for many years. He claimed it was a spring but anyone with a brain knows a summer looks different. Way to go Rudy!
Are you sure it was Rudy ? Like you said he has been around many years, should know the difference between a spring and a steelhead. ::)
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uh oh looks like Rudy is getting linched?
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Obviously I am not lying. Unless Rudy has an identical twin fishing the Capilano....
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The true is Cap is a urban river right in lower mainland !
I guess people are getting excited every year to fish at cap especially when it's all sunny days
Im pretty sure there is at least one guy who fish the cap 24/7/365 lol...
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Im gonna refill my popcorn bowl! ::)
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Are you sure it was Rudy ? Like you said he has been around many years, should know the difference between a spring and a steelhead. ::)
It was Rudy that killed the summer run. I was not there myself, but was told from a reliable source who was there to witness it. What a beek. I chose not to name him in my original post, but since others have named him, I guess it makes no difference at this point. He is a meat hunter, plain and simple. Even if you did report him he lives 2 min from the river and would be home before the CO's could make it. Next time I see this meat hunter/poacher I will give him an ear full, I hope the rest of you do the same.
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play yeah I will! >:(
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if you see him do that again just call the officer when they arrive guide them directly to him i don't understand how he can get away
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Oh, Capilano river report, I caught no fish, but I did speak to 7 other anglers who also caught no fish. So, therefore, there are no numbers yet. But that wont stop the 100 guys from trying tomorrow...
But there might be fish in there right? ;) Better go try it out. Thought I saw a few rise to the top ... could have been small twigs hitting the water
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But there might be fish in there right? ;) Better go try it out. Thought I saw a few rise to the top ... could have been small twigs hitting the water
Well , water level is low. So are you trying to write a fishing report or trying to teasing everybody :D
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This is rediculous. Yes there are coho in the Capilano. How long will you have to wait before you catch any when you go? Go find out. Could go catch a couple right away, have to wait a few hours before any move through, or maybe you will get skunked. Time to stop treating the Capilano like some hidden jewel when it isn't. Coho are starting to trickle in. Go try and catch them or don't. But I think we should cut the crap as far as there being none and the fact that they are small blah blah blah.
As for Rudy. I was not there to witness it myself either but the person who did knows for a fact it was him. Regulars know regulars. No question. On a river like the Capilano someone can hike out and be gone in less than ten minutes. Yes a CO should have been called but even then Rudy would have been at his house sitting on the crapper after having just consumed the illegal fish he just ran home with by the time mr fish cop shows up (usually) That said, if you see something... Call RAPP.
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Apparently the co doesn't have to catch the person in the act if there is a witness willing to testify
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Apparently the co doesn't have to catch the person in the act if there is a witness willing to testify
wheres the evidence? pics? anything? they wont be able to do anything on someones word.
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They will be able to question the guy based on someone's info, especially if the get a view of the fish and report the license plate of the vehicle. Charges might not be brought up but the idiot who bonked the steelie may think twice next time.
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wheres the evidence? pics? anything? they wont be able to do anything on someones word.
x2 ---- Is call prove and guilty..
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munch.munch,munch... ::)
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Who's Dudy and why is he so down on Rudy? Inquring minds want to know. ???
Always a good idea to get pictures of the incident.
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munch.munch,munch... ::)
:D
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Why am I down on Rudy? He illegally killed a summer run steelhead on a river where the run is almost gone. Who's troutbreath and why is he not down on Rudy...
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Why am I down on Rudy? He illegally killed a summer run steelhead on a river where the run is almost gone. Who's troutbreath and why is he not down on Rudy...
Like!!
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Rudy update? Has he been confronted yet? Just wanting to hear his reasons for poaching.Any one report the incident?
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Rudy update? Has he been confronted yet? Just wanting to hear his reasons for poaching.Any one report the incident?
If you are going to wade in, Dennis, pass the popcorn over here. ;D
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Rudy update? Has he been confronted yet? Just wanting to hear his reasons for poaching.Any one report the incident?
Stir the pot hehehe. Sucks if someone didn't. Everyone remember to put the number into your contacts: 1-877-952-7277 or #7277 or fill out a report online:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/cos/rapp/form.htm
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A little off topic but I was down in the states for a few days talking to some guys at Cabela's and apparently someone actually responds to poaching calls down there. You actually dial 9-1-1 for a poaching in progress call, and WDFW officers actually show up... jus sayin.
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Stir the pot hehehe. Sucks if someone didn't. Everyone remember to put the number into your contacts: 1-877-952-7277 or #7277 or fill out a report online:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/cos/rapp/form.htm
Stir,stir,stir ::) Poor Rudy! Probally dont even know!Wouldnt want to be him fishing the Cap!
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Rudy rudy rudy.....go fighting irish!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxvHgqRZp3s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxvHgqRZp3s&feature=related)
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Good one Bassonator :D ;D ::)
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After a long 12 hr shift in the oil patch,some much appreciated comic relief!!! lmao :D
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i have to agree with Dennis on this one. I mean, if this Rudy guy is so known by so many regulars, to the point people even know where he lives, then why has someone not acted on it more than just people slamming the guy on here? by no means am i condoning his actions, im just asking.