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[DragonSpeed]

Today's announcement means no fishing below the Vedder, in the Fraser.  That means more will be able to make it up to the higher bars!!!

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=73651&ID=recreational

Effective 00:01 Mon August 16, the retention of sockeye is prohibited in the
following waters:

- Area 28

- Area 29 - including the tidal waters of the Fraser River (downstream of the
CPR Bridge at Mission).

- Region 2 - Non-tidal waters of the Fraser River downstream of the confluence
of the Sumas/Vedder River to the CPR Bridge at Mission. The Sumas/Vedder
Boundary is defined by the boundary sign on the upstream point of the
Sumas/Vedder confluence on the south side of the river, then across the river
and upstream on an angle (NE) to the boundary sign by the big barn on Nicomen
Island on the north side of the river.

Variation Order Nos. 2004-399, 2004-400.

This action is taken to ensure Late run sockeye and Cultus Lake sockeye
management objectives are achieved.

These waters remain open to chinook retention. See the tidal waters sport
fishing guide and FN0241 for details.

FOR MORE INFORMATION:
For recorded sockeye regulations: 604-666-8266, press 3.
Ann-Marie Huang 604-666-7824 or Devona Adams 604-666-6512

[The Gilly]

If you read the URL with the .pdf and my post "FN Fishery Aug 13-15 "  you'll see that the FN want to harvest them

[DragonSpeed]

If you read the URL with the .pdf and my post "FN Fishery Aug 13-15 "  you'll see that the FN want to harvest them

Yeah...I'm trying to find the positives.

[The Gilly]

Your correct.  They are doing the right thing to let the Cultas run through.  I just hope that people can be wise and let them spawn.
Good luck tomorrow.

[Bantam_50]

Looks like a couple of thousand people will now head up to Pegleg, Laidlaw because of the lower section closure.  

Is that your conservative estimate Max?  

Everyone bring their dancing shoes, I hear there's gonna be one heck of a line dance up there. Anyone notify Guiness Book of World Records yet?  

[Bantam_50]

where does one find what area 29 or 28 stand for

And the answer is:

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/ops/fm/Areas/areamap_e.htm  

[DragonSpeed]

Umm, sir, there is virtually no fishing taking place for Sockeye salmon in these waters specified anyways, what difference will it make, IF ANY, to the upper river bars??

Every little bit helps

[Bantam_50]

How many more will we take?  

As of July 22, estimated chinook harvest by rec anglers 4648 chinook, 24 sockeye.

As of July 22, estimated release by rec anglers 250 chinook (1 out of every 20), 10 jacks, 2449 sockeye (at 10% mortality = 244 carcasses)

We're going to destroy our chinook stocks. Next years data could be the first warning sign.

[rerigger]

i don,t know doc
how many springs have you caught this year??
none for me

[otto]

<cracks open reeb - sits back to watch the flossing debate start again>

 

[Rodney]

<holds onto the mouse tightly as his arm trembles..... Ready to execute the infamous *click*>

Ah what the heck, I'm going fishing.

[otto]

 

[Bantam_50]

MY info wasn't ment for shoring up another flossing debate, but to provide some awareness to how many Chinook are being harvested, with the question being, 'can we continue at this rate without it having some effect on the runs'.

When I first joined this board I posted a thread stating concern over the flossing fishery growing outside the 'regular sockeye fishery.'

I personally stated that I felt that DFO should implement a 5 chinook per season limit on the Fraser system as a start to try and correct this increased harvest pressure on the Fraser. Will it happen? I doubt it. But like the Thompson coho and others, we'll pay for it down the road.

[DragonSpeed]

Bantam - what's the commercial and FN take of Chinook as of that date?

[Bantam_50]

Bantam - what's the commercial and FN take of Chinook as of that date?

I'd have to look it up DS, but if your response is to filter the blame there....remember that commy's and FN have been harvesting chinooks from the Fraser long before the flossery came on the scene. If I can find the ol bar rigging stats and show the increase of harvest that the flossery now has....you might see my point. Flossing was mainly targeted to sockeye, we've evolved now to branch this out on chinooks while the socks aren't open and while sock's are open.

Just last 2003 season the creel census shows rec anglers harvesting over 10,481 chinooks between May 1 and Sept 1...while in 2002 those numbers were only  3479....tack on say 10% additional harvest for non-reporting and it's way to many in my books.