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[Dubs604]

So that costco fish was frozen sockeye for $47 for 1.36 kg or $34.55 /kg

I saw fresh sockeye in the store yesterday for $69.97/kg the packaging says Copper River. But the www.copperriversalmon.org says the copper river sockeye season is May, June July. How can this fish be fresh here at the end of August? Wonder if its from where it says it is? I can upload the picture but not quite sure how.

My apologies if I am a little off-topic, but at these retail prices its not surprising to me that some groups are selling this on the side of the road or wherever, its makes for easy (big) money. The stuff is like a gold rush.

That's correct about the bags of frozen Alaskan sockeye.  Can't speak for anything marked Copper River, but the Costco I was at had fresh (never frozen - I checked with the department manager) sockeye for around $36/kg.  I did something today that I never thought I'd do, which is buy a few kilos of those, cut each side into four pieces, vacuum sealed and put in the freezer for next few months.  Should be about six meals worth for a family our size.

[Lunk Louie]

I think rod said it was 20 fish but a few days on the net and it grows to a huge pile.

Not taking sides on this but for what it's worth years ago I have personally seen on several different occasions, several piles of rotting sox in the Harrison/Chehalis reserve areas (north side of the river) where some run their boats out of.....so if one is of the belief that this practice is not widespread at the very least then they need to get their head out of the sand...Rod's observation is highly unlikely an isolated incidence and you can take that to the bank.....that said maybe they should be able to sell roadside, legally?...you know, more competition equals lower prices since there is no recreational.....I think there would be a huge market regardless of potential risks, just don't make sushi

[avid angler]

Not taking sides on this but for what it's worth years ago I have personally seen on several different occasions, several piles of rotting sox in the Harrison/Chehalis reserve areas (north side of the river) where some run their boats out of.....so if one is of the belief that this practice is not widespread at the very least then they need to get their head out of the sand...Rod's observation is highly unlikely an isolated incidence and you can take that to the bank.....that said maybe they should be able to sell roadside, legally?...you know, more competition equals lower prices since there is no recreational.....I think there would be a huge market regardless of potential risks, just don't make sushi

where do you think most wild salmon sashimi in chilliwack sushi restaurants is from?

[Roderick]

It's pretty clear that it's a commercial fishery.  Some of those guys don't even like eating fish cause they had so much of it when they were growing up.  It's what they ate when there was nothing else.  The whole idea is to sell it so they can buy beef.

[Rodney]

Here's 30 more, freshly dumped this morning.



Yeah I know, that's still only 50 fish if we include the other dump I saw... The summer and late summer runs combined is 5.1 million fish, should be ok...

[fic]

Would making all FN sales legal avoid this waste or will there be even more waste?

[kanuckle head]

Would making all FN sales legal avoid this waste or will there be even more waste?

Its done down south, seems to be government approved and looks successful

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IrouDxtTA

[mikeyman]

Would making all FN sales legal avoid this waste or will there be even more waste?

They don'tike spending money on ice or have any more space in freezers to store them. So they go bad. Perhaps when you see this combined with fish sales everywhere it's time to shut r down.

[Fish Assassin]

Here's 30 more, freshly dumped this morning.



Yeah I know, that's still only 50 fish if we include the other dump I saw... The summer and late summer runs combined is 5.1 million fish, should be ok...

What a waste of a resource.

[RICHARD CRANIUM]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/british-columbia/no-one-followed-the-bc-black-market-salmon/article625576/

[Phronesis]

I think legalizing FN sales will atleast reduce these sort of dump, they will have an incentive to invest in some cold storage.
Lets work together, fighting will only delay any meaningful resolution, how can somebody like me help here?

[mikeyman]

I think legalizing FN sales will atleast reduce these sort of dump, they will have an incentive to invest in some cold storage.
Lets work together, fighting will only delay any meaningful resolution, how can somebody like me help here?

There is no way I would ever support a commercial fishery fn or not if it isn't sustainable or if the recreational angler is left scraps with all the closures. Example all the red springs shut down all summer till Sept 1. Oh you can have at the whites majority of reds gone up. Shut down for conservation on rod and reel to watch them get fished out on Gill nets. Ya piss off with the fish sales. Dfo needs to grow a sack and put a stop to it.

[RalphH]

There is no way I would ever support a commercial fishery fn or not if it isn't sustainable or if the recreational angler is left scraps with all the closures. Example all the red springs shut down all summer till Sept 1. Oh you can have at the whites majority of reds gone up. Shut down for conservation on rod and reel to watch them get fished out on Gill nets. Ya piss off with the fish sales. Dfo needs to grow a sack and put a stop to it.

don 't know where you have been for close to 25 years but commercial FN fisheries have been in place since 1998 as long as surplus TAC has allowed.

[mikeyman]

don 't know where you have been for close to 25 years but commercial FN fisheries have been in place since 1998 as long as surplus TAC has allowed.

No cupcakes. Did you read what I said. No way I would support it If conservation concerns aren't met. Which they are not. Also we used to be able to fish through the summer. This window has shrunk over the past 5 years or so to only allow the rec fishery scraps at best. I have watched it go to cupcakes for over 25 years. Cheers.

[RalphH]

No cupcakes. Did you read what I said. No way I would support it If conservation concerns aren't met. ... Cheers.

no that isn't what you said so perhaps you should reread what you wrote "cupcakes"!

It's been in place for over 20 years. It doesn't take place if there is no sufficient TAC to support it and the issue has been to court on the accusation it was a race based fishery and the courts tossed out that claim and affirmed it's legal validity.