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[wildmanyeah]

Weaver looks like it’s going to come in well above forecast p75 to p90 right now it’s tracking.

[tfishy]

PSC Update From DFO
The Fraser Panel met today for their normally scheduled meeting.

The accounted run to date of Fraser Sockeye is 3,375,300 and the in-season adopted run size is 5,544,000 (pre-season expectation at the p50 was 9,775,000).

Summers are tracking below the p50 through Mission but are projected to increase to above the p50.

The Late runs are tracking the p10 through Mission and are projected to increase closer to the p50. The Gulf Troll test fishery began today and will provide some information on what proportion of Lates are holding.

Area 12 test fishery catch yesterday was 107 while Area 20 catch was a season record of 7,825. As a result, diversion has decreased to 20%.

Note that the Area 13 test fishery ended early to circumvent further program costs, though there are reports that numbers are declining through Area 13 as well.

Last week, Canada did not agree to the PSC recommended run sizes of 4.4M for Summers and 2M for Lates, but because the US adopted the run size recommendations (only one country has to agree to the recommended run sizes), the run sizes were ultimately adopted by the Panel.

Those run sizes supported US fishery proposals for a Treaty Tribal and an All Citizens fishery as there was TAC available.

Yesterday, the PSC recommended reduced run sizes of 3.5M for Summers and 1.2M for Lates, which was adopted by the Panel.

At these new run sizes, the US is well over their share for Late run Sockeye and the remaining balance for Late run catch for both countries at this run size is about -29k.

There is some CCTAC for Summer run Sockeye, but we cannot access that group without having an impact on Lates. There is a Low Abundance Exploitation Rate (LAER) of 20% for Lates and there is no room for impacts left in that 20% LAER.

We will see what Friday brings with some more information from the Gulf Troll test fishery and a few more days of catches through the seine test fisheries.

https://ufawu-unifor.org/news/ufawu-unifor-bulletin-psc-update-from-dfo-media-political-engagement/

[Darko]

PSC Update From DFO
The Fraser Panel met today for their normally scheduled meeting.

The accounted run to date of Fraser Sockeye is 3,375,300 and the in-season adopted run size is 5,544,000 (pre-season expectation at the p50 was 9,775,000).

Summers are tracking below the p50 through Mission but are projected to increase to above the p50.

The Late runs are tracking the p10 through Mission and are projected to increase closer to the p50. The Gulf Troll test fishery began today and will provide some information on what proportion of Lates are holding.

Area 12 test fishery catch yesterday was 107 while Area 20 catch was a season record of 7,825. As a result, diversion has decreased to 20%.

Note that the Area 13 test fishery ended early to circumvent further program costs, though there are reports that numbers are declining through Area 13 as well.

Last week, Canada did not agree to the PSC recommended run sizes of 4.4M for Summers and 2M for Lates, but because the US adopted the run size recommendations (only one country has to agree to the recommended run sizes), the run sizes were ultimately adopted by the Panel.

Those run sizes supported US fishery proposals for a Treaty Tribal and an All Citizens fishery as there was TAC available.

Yesterday, the PSC recommended reduced run sizes of 3.5M for Summers and 1.2M for Lates, which was adopted by the Panel.

At these new run sizes, the US is well over their share for Late run Sockeye and the remaining balance for Late run catch for both countries at this run size is about -29k.

There is some CCTAC for Summer run Sockeye, but we cannot access that group without having an impact on Lates. There is a Low Abundance Exploitation Rate (LAER) of 20% for Lates and there is no room for impacts left in that 20% LAER.

We will see what Friday brings with some more information from the Gulf Troll test fishery and a few more days of catches through the seine test fisheries.

https://ufawu-unifor.org/news/ufawu-unifor-bulletin-psc-update-from-dfo-media-political-engagement/

are we at the point where we can conclude there will be no opening?

[fic]

are we at the point where we can conclude there will be no opening?

Yep

[wildmanyeah]

are we at the point where we can conclude there will be no opening?

There is 550k Tac for the summer run for commercial/REC, However its being constrained by the late run, The Americans basically over fished the Late run and now there is No TAC for Canada to fish.

If more late come it could increase the TAC but then the summer run may be well into the River by then.

So the answer is we probably won't get an opening but there is still a chance but pretty unlikely at this point.

Its possible we could even see FSC get shut down as we have used up the 20% incidental TAC for the Lates.

[ratfish]

Their will be no opening. Its best for all of us but most including the sockeye!!!

[roeman]

There is 550k Tac for the summer run for commercial/REC, However its being constrained by the late run, The Americans basically over fished the Late run and now there is No TAC for Canada to fish.

If more late come it could increase the TAC but then the summer run may be well into the River by then.

So the answer is we probably won't get an opening but there is still a chance but pretty unlikely at this point.

Its possible we could even see FSC get shut down as we have used up the 20% incidental TAC for the Lates.

LOL. You should go into politics. Covered all the possible outcomes and committed to none.   Its like the weather channel saying its going to being sunny, cloudy, with a chance of rain or wet snow. 

[Darko]

There is 550k Tac for the summer run for commercial/REC, However its being constrained by the late run, The Americans basically over fished the Late run and now there is No TAC for Canada to fish.

If more late come it could increase the TAC but then the summer run may be well into the River by then.

So the answer is we probably won't get an opening but there is still a chance but pretty unlikely at this point.

Its possible we could even see FSC get shut down as we have used up the 20% incidental TAC for the Lates.

Really sucks that the actions of others before me have led us to this point. To think we used to have returns of 30 million fish boggles my mind, and 20,000 steelhead in the thompson... Compared to 40 today. I hope in the future I get a chance to make a difference

[mikeyman]

No openings? There has been an opening for months.  For one group only. The fish dumping has already began.

[wildmanyeah]

No openings? There has been an opening for months.  For one group only. The fish dumping has already began.

I heard they have ran out of freezer space, it’s basically just a sale fishery now.

[wildmanyeah]

LOL. You should go into politics. Covered all the possible outcomes and committed to none.   Its like the weather channel saying its going to being sunny, cloudy, with a chance of rain or wet snow.

They have committed to one, it’s closed to non native Canadians.

It’s a sham to call it an FSC fishery at this point

[RalphH]

Ah the usual racially derogatory slurs! 

It's a communal opening with an allowance for sales.

[wildmanyeah]

Ah the usual racially derogatory slurs! 

It's a communal opening with an allowance for sales.

See even you think they can sell fish, at the meeting on Wednesday we were strictly told on the conditions of licence it states sales of any fsc caught fish is forbidden.

Dean werk asked like 5 times about it because off all the fish for sale everywhere. He said the bands have no use for FSC fish at this point and it’s all going to market.

Ask is it legal to buy or sell these fish because basically it’s a commercial fishery at this point.

Department response was it’s very much illegal

Hate to say it but all this has created some real frustration in the community even amping Thoes who have spent the last decade trying to repair Thoes bonds.

Truly sad

[Darko]

See even you think they can sell fish, at the meeting on Wednesday we were strictly told on the conditions of licence it states sales of any fsc caught fish is forbidden.

Dean werk asked like 5 times about it because off all the fish for sale everywhere. He said the bands have no use for FSC fish at this point and it’s all going to market.

Ask is it legal to buy or sell these fish because basically it’s a commercial fishery at this point.

Department response was it’s very much illegal

Hate to say it but all this has created some real frustration in the community even amping Thoes who have spent the last decade trying to repair Thoes bonds.

Truly sad

when something is illegal but still happens all the time with no punishment there is no point of the law being there in the first place, like in prohibition. Either start punishing those breaking the rules or drop them

[wildmanyeah]

when something is illegal but still happens all the time with no punishment there is no point of the law being there in the first place, like in prohibition. Either start punishing those breaking the rules or drop them

That was basically the point just make it legal because it’s not fsc and clearly there is already enough catch to support fsc need:

The muddledd response to that was
Well there is still some bands in n the interior that have not got many fish and still have fsc needs.