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[No_way]

Got ya!!!!!  I don't know why, I used to use them and I found that they would tangle as well.  So I just started trying this and the first day I did, I caught a hatchery Steelhead.  So I just stuckk with it!!!

I lose a lot of gear flounder fishing, so I came up the this bare-minimum rig.  Try this:  Tie the hook to your main line, then 12" up tie a pencil lead on using a Palomar Knot.  I always break it off before twisting becomes a problem (and I use a spinning reel so curly line is just part of the game).  The best part--other than having your line back in the water in under 3 mins--is that when in brakes off it does so ALWAYS at the knot and below the lead.  So all you loose is the hook.  You like simple--my set up has only 2 knot, yours has four. 

[Big Steel]

Believe it or not I have only ever lost one rig!!!!!!

[No_way]

Believe it or not I have only ever lost one rig!!!!!!

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