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Fish Assassin

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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2005, 10:42:32 AM »

I have used CF's roe and it is dynamite. It milks well and it's a bright red colour. Totally awesome
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2005, 12:49:54 PM »

The typical roe curing is not a secret, you can read it on the back of any container of roe.  However, some people have their own method which can include different ingredients and methods to firm up the roe.  I know there's a method out there which calls for a mixture of salt etc. to be dissolved in hot water before adding the roe.  Does anyone have this recipe.  It's supposed to make a very firm roe.

Check this link:

http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/resourcecenter/eggs.htm
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2005, 04:35:40 PM »

What is considered a good cured roe? What properties should one be looking for?
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2005, 05:11:49 PM »

The typical roe curing is not a secret, you can read it on the back of any container of roe.  However, some people have their own method which can include different ingredients and methods to firm up the roe.  I know there's a method out there which calls for a mixture of salt etc. to be dissolved in hot water before adding the roe.  Does anyone have this recipe.  It's supposed to make a very firm roe.

Check this link:

http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/resourcecenter/eggs.htm

I know a buddy who has tried this recipe. He threw all his eggs away. Says it sucks.
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2005, 05:12:28 PM »

I knew that was coming  ;D
Okay so just to be abit more clear.  Colour? Firmness? Smell?

Three it catchs you fish!

C.F
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2005, 06:06:38 PM »

Fish Assassin, what recipe did he use that he threw away the eggs.  If it's the pro cure method, it's gotta be the roe is bad and not the cure.  With the monster bite added, I'll put pro cure wizard or pro cure last supper roe up against any other and will continue to outfish any other roe that I know of. 

One more thing..Technique also matters.  You need to know how to fish it. 
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2005, 10:12:46 PM »

The recipe in that link. His roe turned out hard as a rock.
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2005, 10:14:33 PM »

he was refering to the recipe listed on piscatorialpursuits.com
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2005, 10:17:07 PM »

I just stick to the Procure or straight borax cure.
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2005, 04:49:50 AM »

If his eggs turned out hard as a rock, he over brined them.  It is a good cure.

Pro cure wizard is a hot cure; it has a lot of sodium sulfite in it and is better for Chinook (Springs).  Coho and steelhead normally prefer a more natural egg.  For Coho and some steelhead fishing I use a light curing of Pro Cure Redd Hott Double Stuff.  For just steelhead eggs I use plain borax.

If you're a serious egg fisherman keep rubber gloves, paper towels and zip lock bags in your vest.  When you catch a fish, bleed it immediately by popping some gills on each side of the fish and placing it back in the water to bleed out.  Make sure the heart is still pumping and bleed out completely.  If the fish is caught in a river, I don't harvest the eggs until I'm ready to leave because there are no digestive enzymes to worry about and the eggs are safe inside the fish.  Just make sure to keep the fish cool.  They should be blood free when you remove them and make sure you don't allow them contact with the water. Wrap them in the paper towel, and place them in the plastic bag and keep cool.  PS, if you're really hard core, make sure your paper towels are unbleached.

I used to use the jar method.  I use wide mouth jars that allow me to vacuum seal them when finished.  When you get home, butterfly your eggs.  If from a large fish, I cut the skein halves into halves or thirds.  I use about half the amount of cure than the bottle recommends when I'm curing eggs for Coho.  I add a light sprinkling of cure, then add a piece of the eggs, then another light sprinkle, then more eggs etc, etc, etc. until I've either filled the jar or run out of eggs.  Give another light sprinkling on top if there's no cure there already.  Then I seal the jars and shake/roll the cure and eggs together to make sure the cure gets into all the nooks and crannies.

After about an hour the eggs should be nice and juiced up.  Then I add a couple of drops of pro cure anise+ scent directly to the juice and roll it all in nice and good.  Keep the eggs in a cool place for the next day or so making sure you flip the jar every couple of hours.  After a day, most of the juice has been re absorbed.  Pour the remaining juice into a separate container (its killer for curing prawns, shrimp and sardine fillets.  I know you can't use sardines in Canada, but try curing salad shrimp/prawns in the juice ;) ) Now you can either dry the eggs out over a screen until they're how you like them, or vacuum seal and freeze just like they are, or fish immediately.  Sometimes, I'll also store them in layers of borax if I want to toughen up the skein for fishing in fast water.

There you have it, eggs that have accounted for several six fish limits when we had them down in Washington. The key is to avoid scent/water contamination of the eggs, keep the blood out, and to tailor your cure to the fish you're trying to catch.  But the cure you use isn't as important as the quality of the egg you cure.

For a nice tutorial with lots of pictures on egg curing follow this link:
http://www.ifish.net/amercure1.html
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2005, 05:51:08 PM »

Thanks for the post Ramstrong.  Finally someone who doesn't treat his egg recipe like it's a secret family recipe that's been handed down for generations like the KFC secret recipe. 
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2005, 07:06:47 PM »

Oooooohhhhhhh, you wan't to eat mah chicken!

No, Pro Cure is an OTC cure nothing secret about it.  Too bad you guys don't have access to all of the other cures on the market.  A lot of guides lately have taken to selling their cures on the open market minus a couple of ingredients.  Some even sell their actual cure.  I believe Amerman's cure is exactly what Scott and Grant use. 

Also you've got to look at after curing additives.  You see once you cure the eggs you can add things to them after you cure them, but before you fish them to seperate them from the pack.  There are some addatives that when added to eggs will cause fish that are stale to feed.  Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to discuss these things.  8)

You may ask yourself: Self, why is this guy divulging so much?  Well now that I live in Pennsylvania I don't do any egg fishing anymore. And if you catch a buch of fish, I'll hopefully see some reports in the coming week to excite me for my trip to the Vedder/Harrison on the 23rd/24th.

And remember, your finished product can be no better than the quality of the eggs you start with.  Garbage in, Garbage out!
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2005, 12:38:32 AM »

i like the brine method myself, but i don't bother with the boiling of the ingredients. not necessary.

also like mentioned....do not over brine or your eggs will turn into miniature rubber balls.
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Re: cured roe recipe
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2005, 12:35:08 AM »

for steelhead i often wanted to try adding some of the left over bug juice into the roe brine.

also i have heard of garlic being used as an ingredient.
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