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[GordJ]

We are aware that what decides Aboriginal tittle is the law aren’t we? The government is merely the body in place at the time that contracts that were entered into and promises made, years ago, are finally being enforced. Any land claims like the one in Richmond aren’t being decided by any government but by the courts. In Canada we tend to obey the laws, even the ones that we don’t like.
And as far as the dog whistle about restrictions on fishing goes, there has been no one denied even a single days fishing.

[SuperBobby]

BTW your statement that:

is absolutely false Elections Canada does produce or issue such statistics. As of yet Elections Canada has not produced any demographic data on the 2025 Federal election.

What are you talking about? If you watched the election on TV on election night, you would have seen the pundits giving out demographics that very night. Regardless of who broadcasts it....it all comes from Elections Canada

[clarki]

What are you talking about? If you watched the election on TV on election night, you would have seen the pundits giving out demographics that very night. Regardless of who broadcasts it....it all comes from Elections Canada

Perhaps you are conflating Elections Canada with the many opinion polls (EKOS, Nanos, Angus Reid…) that are conducted and whose data is used by media outlets. For example, this poll compares party voting and age. https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/federal-election-vote-intention-split-among-age-gender-nanos/

[RalphH]

What are you talking about? If you watched the election on TV on election night, you would have seen the pundits giving out demographics that very night. Regardless of who broadcasts it....it all comes from Elections Canada

you don't know what you are talking about. You seldom do.

from the link Clarki supplied:

Forty-one per cent (sic) of respondents between 18 and 34 say they plan to vote Conservative, compared to 37 per cent who plan to vote Liberal. (from Nanos Research)

For people between 18 and 34, that really isn't near the split you talked about earlier. At 4 percentage points it is likely near the margin of error for such polls so is very close to the sampled (you understand the concept of sampling do you...you don't appear to..) amount for "boomers".

You might want to read the analysis by Nik Nanos that is in the following paragraph:

“Mark Carney tracks quite well when it comes to perceptions related to how he might manage the bi-national relationship (with the U.S.) and that particular issue trends very strongly among voters who are older than 55 years of age,” says Nik Nanos, chief data scientist at Nanos Research and official pollster for CTV News and the Globe and Mail."

he is saying Carney polls quite well among both cohorts - boomers and X'rs for how they expect him tpo manage the changing relationship with the US and Donald Trump.

[GordJ]

This is one of my favourite boomer quotes "because they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

[SuperBobby]

Perhaps you are conflating Elections Canada with the many opinion polls (EKOS, Nanos, Angus Reid…) that are conducted and whose data is used by media outlets. For example, this poll compares party voting and age. https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/federal-election-vote-intention-split-among-age-gender-nanos/

Yeah. A lot of that information (in media form) comes from the names you said, but after the election and even during election night....the original statistics of whos voting for who came from Elections Canada. It's just different media that gives it to us. I'm not sure why Ralph doesn't understand that.

from the link Clarki supplied:

For people between 18 and 34, that really isn't near the split you talked about earlier. At 4 percentage points it is likely near the margin of error for such polls so is very close to the sampled (you understand the concept of sampling do you...you don't appear to..) amount for "boomers".

I hear you were a teacher. I really hope it wasn't math.

Yes, of course I know the younger demographics were in some cases only a few % points difference. Gen X voted the highest for Conservative. Anyways....But the boomers have more voters than any other demographic and they voted heavily for liberal. I don't care how you try to spin this Ralph, but the statistics prove that if the boomers DIDN'T vote....we would have a Conservative majority. Pretty much all the pundits admitted that after election night. That's all that matters to me. The boomer voters are the ones responsible for screwing up our country even more than it already is because they put the liberals over the top for votes needed to win the election.

You might want to read the analysis by Nik Nanos that is in the following paragraph:

I don't want to read anything written by Nik Nanos....thank you.

[RalphH]

Yeah. A lot of that information (in media form) comes from the names you said, but after the election and even during election night....the original statistics of whos voting for who came from Elections Canada. It's just different media that gives it to us. I'm not sure why Ralph doesn't understand that.


I hear you were a teacher. I really hope it wasn't math.

I say again Elections Canada does not issue such statistics. It's hilarious how you keep insisting you are right when you are wrong. You can't even provide a reliable source to support your claim & lean on your unreliable memory.

I was not a teacher. I worked 30+ years as an accountant, CPA. How about you?
...so Boomers shouldn't be allowed to vote?

[wildmanyeah]

Any land claims like the one in Richmond aren’t being decided by any government but by the courts. In Canada we tend to obey the laws, even the ones that we don’t like.
And as far as the dog whistle about restrictions on fishing goes, there has been no one denied even a single days fishing.

I thought the first nations said they are not making a land claim? that's what they said on the radio

[SuperBobby]

I say again Elections Canada does not issue such statistics. It's hilarious how you keep insisting you are right when you are wrong. You can't even provide a reliable source to support your claim & lean on your unreliable memory.

I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. So I asked a friend of mine this morning who works with every election you can imagine in Canada for at least the last 20 years.
His words to me were that Elections Canada has all the statistics (including demographic voting stats) and gives them out to the different media as requested. Exactly what I've been trying to say in this entire thread. He also confirmed that no one else can provide results. The analysts and pundits then take that information and give their take on different media.

[SuperBobby]

https://globalnews.ca/news/11513951/ostriches-decision-supreme-court-bc/

Another confirmation of the bullying tyrannical dictatorship in this country. There isn't one single shred of evidence that these birds are a threat and need to be killed.
It's just going to get worse. What is left of our freedom is literal hanging on the edge.

[RalphH]

Elections Canada has a website. All the information "your friend" mentioned is available there. You can look at the website and if you can find info that links age and/or gender to how people voted go ahead and provide that here.

BTW the final report on the April 2025 General election including voting demographics has not been released as yet. Tells me that you are full of it since you claim to have seen something that is not yet publicly available if it is even collected. I mean when I read your claim that was the first place I checked. Any info on age cohorts and how people actually voted? Couldn't find it though I did find out that the full stats panel  for 2025 aren't available as yet. Couldn't find it for any previous general election either.

see here https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=rec/eval/pes2025&document=index&lang=e

here is demographics by age and gender but nothing how each classification voted:

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=rec/eval/pes2019/vtsa&document=index&lang=e

please note they don't group age by cohort boomer, X, Z, millennial etc.

I say again the stupidest part of your remarks, and it is really stupid,  is that without the support of Boomers there would have been a Conservative majority.(What a weeny unmasculine thing to say! When did whining become a masculine characteristic?) That may be true but all voters have the same rights and it will be a decade or 2 before almost all the boomers are dead.

[adriaticum]

Be aware folks and be involved.
Don't let the governments of all levels catch you sleeping and bring you to "fait accompli".
These clowns who live in their own little bubbles have no clue what can of worms they are opening.

I am all for making some historical wrongs right, great evil deeds were committed with intent against the native populations.
But if reconciliation is not done right, this could lead to the second conquest of north america.
Canada will be brought down to a point where the only solution will be to become the 51st state as the "dumpling" says.

First nations are closed societies for the most part, some of them are not interested in reconciliation.
You can not join them, unless you have their blood.
These kinds of societies cannot survive amongst people who have learned to live in an open and multicultural society.
These two things are irreconcilable.
Somehow Canadian governments think that they can give them land and self-governing authority and everything will be peachy.
Yikes.

[SuperBobby]

I say again the stupidest part of your remarks, and it is really stupid,  is that without the support of Boomers there would have been a Conservative majority.

I already told you....even the pundits and analysts have conceded this. You just don't want to hear what you don't want to hear.

And now, that you've told me that you are an accountant, I'm very concerned. How many times did you get the math wrong on other people's finances?

Canada will be brought down to a point where the only solution will be to become the 51st state as the "dumpling" says.

I agree with what you said here, but the real issue is that the vast majority of Canadians don't understand how far we are past the point of no return.
The truth is....and most Canadians will never swallow this....is the fact that if Trump annexed Canada and made us the 51st state....it would be an act of mercy.

[RalphH]

I already told you....even the pundits and analysts have conceded this. You just don't want to hear what you don't want to hear.

And now, that you've told me that you are an accountant, I'm very concerned. How many times did you get the math wrong on other people's finances?

LOL! What an idiotic thing to say! What "pundits and analysts"? You've provided nothing to back up your silly claims. You also don't understand the basic facts behind numbers and what they mean. Who cares if but for boomers, the Pee Pee and the Conservatives may have won the '25 general election. The fact is boomers were there to vote as they should have and if it made a difference in the outcome too bad. Boo hoo cry baby.

[salmonrook]

I think most people voted for who they thought the best leader would be .
Carney has a proven track record as a business man and thats  why they voted for him after the mess that Trudeau left
PP is a professional politician who can't even get elected in his own riding
Too many people just vote conservative because they are touted as  the right wing business party
Fact is we had conservative MPs in our riding who were completely useless just collecting a fat paycheque.
I applaud people who saw Carney as the best leader and elected him inspite of the Trudeau liberals history
It sure is telling how people view PP ,what a mouthpiece .
My 2 cents