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roeman

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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2025, 12:16:07 PM »

There is absolutely no excuse for the sporties to not be fishing Sockeye right now.
Pure political BS.
FN runs the fishery.  Everyone is too scared to stand up to them.  All you here on the news is FN grave sites discovered, FN takes over parks and Richmond because 100 years ago they ate a salmon or moose on that land and have never been back but since, but now its considered ceremonial land.   You want the land back grab a gun and take it back.  Contribute next to nothing that runs the country but when your land is on fire you want the help and people on you land to put the fire out. 
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2025, 01:55:39 PM »

FN runs the fishery.  Everyone is too scared to stand up to them.  All you here on the news is FN grave sites discovered, FN takes over parks and Richmond because 100 years ago they ate a salmon or moose on that land and have never been back but since, but now its considered ceremonial land.   You want the land back grab a gun and take it back.  Contribute next to nothing that runs the country but when your land is on fire you want the help and people on you land to put the fire out.

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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2025, 09:20:02 AM »

Cowichan Tribes aren't asking for their land back. That ruling will most likely go through appeal & modified by an upper court. There are also claims on the same land from the Tsawwassen and Musqueam nations. The situation is another example of Governments deciding to test the case before the courts rather than negotiate an acceptable settlement. That's approach that gave FNs so much power in the salmon fishery.
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2025, 09:22:12 AM »

Idk, but in my opinion, if they were going to open sockeye, it should be now with the bulk of the Summer runs passing through the river in the next week or so.  The Lates though coming back in greater numbers than forecast are the non dominant stock in this brood year.  I'd hate for them to open Sockeye late aug/early sept and have a gong show on the river not to mention having commercial netting around Labour day when there may be interior coho around and more of the weaker sockeye stock hammered.

The early opening of pinks may be in response to the criticism they took for not giving much notice during the last pink cycle.  But I agree, I'm not wetting my Tazzies till I see the Whonnock counts in triple digits for pinks.

the remaining summer run is now being cleaned up by the Seine fleet. There wouldn't  be much to fish for for a few days. My past experience is the summer run in the river is usually done within the next week or so



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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2025, 10:08:36 AM »

the remaining summer run is now being cleaned up by the Seine fleet. There wouldn't  be much to fish for for a few days. My past experience is the summer run in the river is usually done within the next week or so

When we used to have regular rec. openings, they would be by BC day.  If they don't open it by next week, it won't open at all.  As long as the Area E Gillnetters are off the water, I guess that's ok.  While the Seiners aren't that much better, they can at least key in on the target species in the ocean rather than a long string of gillnets that kill everything. 
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2025, 01:48:19 PM »

630k Counted passing the mission hydro acoustic yesterday 1.5 mill over last 3 days

haven't seen that in awhile
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2025, 02:33:45 PM »

I just saw that! The river needs to open ASAP , this is ridiculous. They just want to wait till the more at risk stocks are in river so they have an excuse. That's what my conclusion is if this Friday's meeting doesn't result in an opening.
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2025, 07:17:06 PM »

I just saw that! The river needs to open ASAP , this is ridiculous. They just want to wait till the more at risk stocks are in river so they have an excuse. That's what my conclusion is if this Friday's meeting doesn't result in an opening.
You should be grateful that you are even allowed to come to Canada.  Maybe Canada should make it mandatory for immigrants to be here for 20 years before they have access to the resources that Canada offers.  Free medical, education, choices.  You can always go back home.  Maybe tell the gov't in Serbia how to do their jobs.
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2025, 07:59:34 PM »

You should be grateful that you are even allowed to come to Canada.  Maybe Canada should make it mandatory for immigrants to be here for 20 years before they have access to the resources that Canada offers.  Free medical, education, choices.  You can always go back home.  Maybe tell the gov't in Serbia how to do their jobs.
I was born here you miserable ignorant old man. F*** off will you?
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2025, 04:47:59 PM »

I just saw that! The river needs to open ASAP , this is ridiculous. They just want to wait till the more at risk stocks are in river so they have an excuse. That's what my conclusion is if this Friday's meeting doesn't result in an opening.

They heard you :

https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=329242&ID=all

Lets gooooooooooo
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2025, 05:09:43 PM »

You should be grateful that you are even allowed to come to Canada.  Maybe Canada should make it mandatory for immigrants to be here for 20 years before they have access to the resources that Canada offers.  Free medical, education, choices.  You can always go back home.  Maybe tell the gov't in Serbia how to do their jobs.
This is the most anachronistic statement I have read on any forum in quite a few years.
I have to agree with Darko telling you off, but I will say it more politely: you are so out of touch with reality, you poor relic of an era bygone. In case you didn't notice, the empire is no longer. You can thank the immigrants you so despise for keeping this country great, not the aging, dwindling old white boys who cannot accept change.
I hope you live long enough to see the day when sport fishing is given to First Nations for management.

Go harvest them boys. Tis a lot of fun!
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2025, 05:11:37 PM »

I was born here you miserable ignorant old man. F*** off will you?

Just wait, he will soon tell you to F off and go be born again somewhere else!
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2025, 07:45:18 PM »

Been a while since I've flossed for sockeye and was never successful at it.
You want to time it ~3-4 hours after high tide in Vancouver right?
Curious on fishing near Chilliwack when its near low tide in Vancouver.
How successful is this when the tide is pulling with the river?
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2025, 08:35:29 PM »

You should be grateful that you are even allowed to come to Canada.  Maybe Canada should make it mandatory for immigrants to be here for 20 years before they have access to the resources that Canada offers.  Free medical, education, choices.  You can always go back home.  Maybe tell the gov't in Serbia how to do their jobs.

What a clown you are....
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Re: Goods news on Fraser River sockeye!
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2025, 08:59:39 PM »

Quote from: canucksfan233
Been a while since I've flossed for sockeye and was never successful at it.
You want to time it ~3-4 hours after high tide in Vancouver right?
Curious on fishing near Chilliwack when its near low tide in Vancouver.
How successful is this when the tide is pulling with the river?

Don't worry about the tides so much. Pay attention to commercial and FN openings and work your way around them. Catching is quite poor for recreational fishers when Jimmy's fleet is at it in the Fraser or at the mouth, or when some of the bands along the river are drifting all day and setting nets. 
Regardless of what some jesters say, any leader longer than your rod's length is an invitation to trouble, for reasons I cannot even begin to enumerate. The ideal flossing technique is with a 6-8 foot leader. It still covers a lot of water, and you can feel the pull of a fish tensing the leader almost immediately. A shorter leader also helps to reduce unnecessary tangles with other harvesters.

Remember that sockeye in the Fraser are not actively biting, they are too far from their spawning grounds for that. You are flossing them, even if the hook is in the mouth, usually lodged in the mouth's corner on the side facing the opposite bank from the one you are fishing from. Use an old-fashioned corky or a hard plastic bead to lift the hook off the bottom as they last a very long time. Wool works, too, but corkies rule in the Fraser, IMHO. On occasions you will get a biter, which will be hooked inside the mouth, but they are few and far between.

Catch your limit of sockeye and go home. Don't catch and release. With these water temperatures, the socks need every ounce of energy to complete their journey.

And most importantly, NEVER use flossing with a bouncing betty anywhere else except the Fraser for sockeye. You will incur the wrath of everybody around you if you try that on the Vedder or any other local river. And there's no need for it.
Ahhh, the good old flossing days...standing in the river for hours in sandals in +30C temps. It was fun, but that's past tense for me. If I did it today, I'd probably end with trench foot and skin cancer, LOL!

Enjoy it youngsters! :)
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