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[wildmanyeah]

Last two days they have 100k pinks passing the mission acustic counting station.

I went back 20+ years and nothing that high this early, So they are either sockeye or the pinks are early

[SuperBobby]

I am surprised that people are catching the odd one here and there. Good stuff.

I'm pretty sure you told us earlier that no one catches Pinks in August when I complained about the sporties not being allowed to fish for them early.

Last two days they have 100k pinks passing the mission acustic counting station.

I went back 20+ years and nothing that high this early, So they are either sockeye or the pinks are early

And yet here we are again in the Non Tidal Region 2 locked out because the FNs pressured those in charge to keep us out of the river. Got to love it when decisions are based on race and and determined by politics.

[fic]

Last two days they have 100k pinks passing the mission acustic counting station.

I went back 20+ years and nothing that high this early, So they are either sockeye or the pinks are early

That is surprising, but if you look at the Passage Through Mission work sheet, they are using Brownsville catches a method for estimating the passage at Mission.  I've seen those boats there before it looks like they fishing well off shore where the sockeye are.

[roeman]

There are pinks, sockeye and springs in the thompson river. FN nets on the thompson, coming into campgrounds selling out of the back of a pickup.  I am doubtful the way the fish are counted that they can tell the difference between pinks, sockeye or springs.

[wildmanyeah]

It looks like pinks are probably going to be down graded from the preseason forecast of 27 million to 10-20 million.

[canoeboy]

I was out yesterday for the opening and got into 2 and a spring jack as well. Was also out of horseshoe Bay on Sunday and got into a dozen pinks and we were scaring huge schools on the surface.

[RalphH]

It looks like pinks are probably going to be down graded from the preseason forecast of 27 million to 10-20 million.

LOL

looking at the notes for today's PSC meeting it look more like 15 to 20. That's still a high return and above the historical mean of 11m. There is no recommendation on an in season forecast as yet.  I also noted the ocean catches of summer runs and late run sockeye has dropped dramatically as have pinks.

[Aurora]

Never mind

[redside1]

Hello,
 
Thanks for support/ input on all of these planned rec fisheries and the patience waiting until they are announced. I know these are not going to address all the input we’ve received this past week. Here is where the fisheries planning is as of right now.
The following information is still subject to change, please go with what is in the Fisheries Notices when they are posted, not what is in this email as it may contain errors,
 
South Coast: FN0810
August 16 to 23:59 hours August 24, Effective 00:01 hours August 16, 2025, until 23:59 August 24, 2025, the daily limit of Sockeye salmon is four (4) in the following waters:
- Areas 11 to 15;
- Subareas 16-1 and 16-19 to 16-21;
- Areas 17 to 20;
- Subareas 28-1, 28-2 and 28-7;
- Areas 111 and 121, 123 to 127
 
FIA- The daily limits for sockeye for the fisheries below will be 2/day at this time (have heard interest in 4 sockeye day). The daily limits for Pink will be 4/day.
1.                 Tidal Waters (Area 29-11 to 29-17):  Pink Rec Fishing - August 18 –  to Sept 18 & 20 (Steelhead WC), FN0821 (boundary will be updated to read Tidal waters of the Fraser River (Fraser River downstream of the CPR Bridge at Mission, BC to the mouth of the river);[PFMA 29-11 to 29-17))
2.                 Tidal Waters (Area 29-11 to 29-17):  Sockeye Rec Fishing – August 22 – Sept 2
3.                 Fraser Mainstem (Region 2) to Alexandra Bridge:  Pink and Sockeye Rec Fishing - August 22    - Sept 2 for sockeye, and pink to continue to the Steelhead WC date (Sept 21 &25).
4.                 Fraser Tributaries (Region 2):  Pink Rec Fishing - August 22  -Sept 30
4.   
a.   Harrison River:  Sockeye Salmon (2/day) effective August 22  - Sept 2
5.                 Fraser River (Region 3 - Lillooet):  Pink and sockeye rec fishing – August 22 – Sept 23 
6.                 Thompson River, South Thompson River and , Kamloops Lake (Region 3):  Pink and Chinook Rec Fishing – August 28  -Sept-30 (detailed waters in the FN)
7.                 Quesnel River (Region 5A): Sockeye and Pink Rec Fishing – sockeye August 28 - 15 Quesnel River/Lake (Fraser Tributary, Region 5A); Quesnel River (Fraser Tributary, Region 5A) Pink Aug 28 – Sept 30
8.                 Nechako River (Region 7): Sockeye and Pink Rec Fishing – August 28 – Sept 21
9.                 Squamish mainstem is currently non retention pink, interest in retention, potentially ~Aug 24 tbc
 
If you see an error on any of the upcoming Fishery Notices, please let me know.
Looking forward to updates from the Panel this week,

[iblly]

At work this morning at low tide off the mouth of north arm and it was pinks as far as the eye could see. Thousands.

[RalphH]

Hello,
 
Thanks for support/ input on all of these planned rec fisheries and the patience waiting until they are announced. I know these are not going to address all the input we’ve received this past week. Here is where the fisheries planning is as of right now.
The following information is still subject to change, please go with what is in the Fisheries Notices when they are posted, not what is in this email as it may contain errors,
e let me know.
Looking forward to updates from the Panel this week,

... who or where is this coming from?

Anyway so much for the all carping about no sockeye opening. I wonder will there now be a FN economic opportunities opening?

Answered my own question. Opened yesterday for 10 hours. Expect to see this up river in a few days. I half suspected a rec opening wouldn't happen without FN EO openings.

https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=329060&ID=all

[wildmanyeah]

I wonder will there now be a FN economic opportunities opening?

already started, that's why the inriver for rec is being looked at now

Category(s):ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities
Subject:FN0829-Aboriginal: Salmon - Economic Opportunities - Sockeye - Area 29 - Lower Fraser Area - Musqueam - Gillnet Opening - August 18, 2025


The following commercial economic opportunity fishery was authorized for the Musqueam First Nation for Sockeye salmon gillnet gear in the lower Fraser River:

This fishery opened for gillnet, from 11:00 hours to 19:00 hours, August 18, 2025.

The fishing activity was authorized in the following area:

Those waters of the Fraser River westerly of the Patullo Bridge and the waters of the Strait of Georgia bounded by a line commencing at Point Grey thence northerly to the light on Point Atkinson, thence westerly to the light on Point Cowan on Bowen Island, thence following the southerly shoreline of Bowen Island to the light on Cape Roger Curtis, thence in a direct line southeasterly to the Roberts Bank LL# 309 (known as the Hooter Buoy) thence due west to the 40 metre contour line as shown on C.H.S. 3463, thence follow the 40 metre contour line to the International border.

Portions of DFO Management Subareas 29-3, 29-4, 29-6, 29-7, 29-9,29-10, 29-11, 29-12, 29-13 and 29-14.

Only individuals designated by the Musqueam First Nation are authorized to participate in this fishery. All aspects of the communal licence will be enforced. Fish harvesters are advised to contact their band for a copy of the conditions of their fishing licence.
 
The target species in this fishery is Sockeye salmon. Retention of Chinook salmon, Pink salmon, Chum salmon, and hatchery marked Coho Salmon caught incidentally is permitted. There will be non-retention of wild Coho Salmon, Steelhead and Sturgeon. All non-target species will be released back to the water alive and unharmed.

It is mandatory that all salmon retained under the authority of this licence be transported to the nearest landing station and made available for inspection. A monitor shall be present during all landing of catch to record the number and weight of each species of salmon delivered.

Lost Gear Reporting:

[wildmanyeah]

LOL

  I also noted the ocean catches of summer runs and late run sockeye has dropped dramatically as have pinks.

lol

I know thats why used 10 and not 15 to cover that possibility in my arm chair estimate lol

[redside1]

Category(s):
    RECREATIONAL - Salmon


    Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0841-RECREATIONAL - Salmon - Pink and Sockeye - Lower Fraser River Non-tidal Waters of the Fraser River mainstem - Opening August 22, 2025

Effective one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset each day between August 22, and September 1, 2025, in the waters described below you may retain two (2) Sockeye Salmon per day:

Non-tidal waters of the Fraser River from the downstream side of the CPR Bridge at Mission upstream to the Highway 1 Bridge at Hope; and
Non-tidal waters of the Fraser River from the Highway 1 Bridge at Hope to the downstream side of the Alexandra Bridge.

In the waters described below you may retain four (4) Pink Salmon per day:

Non-tidal waters of the Fraser River from the downstream side of the CPR Bridge at Mission upstream to the Highway 1 Bridge at Hope - Effective one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset each day between August 22, and September 21, 2025; and

Non-tidal waters of the Fraser River from the Highway 1 Bridge at Hope to the downstream side of the Alexandra Bridge - Effective one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset each day between August 22, and September 25, 2025.

Management measures: 

- No fishing for Chinook, Coho, or Chum salmon.
- You must not use bait when fishing for salmon.
- Fishing is permissible during daylight hours only.

Anglers fishing for salmon in the Fraser River are required to take every measure possible to ensure that their fishing activities avoid impacts on non-target stocks. This means that anglers are requested to use angling methods that do not catch non-target stocks.

Anglers should be aware that the First Nations food, social and ceremonial fishery is open in this area. Anglers are encouraged to minimize or eliminate any gear conflict in this area. Please be diligent when harvesting and navigating in this area and exercise patience when and if in contact with other fishers.

Variation Orders: 2025-RCT-337, 2025-RFQ-336, 2025-GMB–018

[redside1]

... who or where is this coming from?

coming from emails DFO is sending out to those that are participating in the PSC meetings and other various groups.