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RalphH

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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #615 on: September 20, 2023, 05:21:32 PM »
maybe we need to get the log booms out of the river  ;D

I checked out some formerly nice bars near POCO - all boomed over. The booms were even hi and dry in low water. Didn't get close enough to look for nets!
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #616 on: September 20, 2023, 05:55:00 PM »
Quote from: RalphH on September 20, 2023, 05:21:32 PM
maybe we need to get the log booms out of the river  ;D

I checked out some formerly nice bars near POCO - all boomed over. The booms were even hi and dry in low water. Didn't get close enough to look for nets!
LOL, close all gas stations at the same time.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #617 on: September 20, 2023, 06:12:17 PM »
Psst. Wanna buy some pink 13 gram Tassie Devils? I know a guy who knows another guy and that guy just got a shipment in.   ::)
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #618 on: September 20, 2023, 06:28:23 PM »
Quote from: roeman on September 20, 2023, 05:55:00 PM
LOL, close all gas stations at the same time.

that's gonna happen!
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #619 on: September 20, 2023, 07:15:34 PM »
Quote from: RalphH on September 20, 2023, 05:21:32 PM
maybe we need to get the log booms out of the river  ;D

I checked out some formerly nice bars near POCO - all boomed over. The booms were even hi and dry in low water. Didn't get close enough to look for nets!

Leave the log booms!   ;)
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #620 on: September 21, 2023, 04:04:12 PM »
No log booms means no lumber and no toilet paper ! 😬
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #621 on: September 21, 2023, 06:46:45 PM »
dry storage means less wood waste in the river.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #622 on: September 22, 2023, 04:11:46 AM »
Land values and transportation costs are way too high for that unfortunately.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #623 on: September 22, 2023, 07:47:26 AM »
So that raises the issue; do timber interests pay enough for log boom & sorting tenure? What do they pay?The Province survey's tenure costs annually but they are isn't easy to find.

 Boom storage and log sorting  have a number of negative impacts on fish and marine and  riverine ecosystems:

https://www.marinescience.ca/salmon-seal-interactions/log-booms-2/

dry storage and sort does go on all across the Province & booming is only common on the coast. I saw piles of logs stored in Midway at the Vaagan sawmill site earlier this month. It's also has it risks  such as fire.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #624 on: September 22, 2023, 08:13:04 AM »
I just know specifically here in the lower Fraser land values are just too high for dry storage anywhere near the river. The logs can’t be left in the salt water at the dumps and sorts very long either or the bugs get in them and destroy the product and it doesn’t take long for that to happen. Part of the reason the booms come into the Fraser for storage is so the fresh water kills them.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #625 on: September 22, 2023, 08:28:33 AM »
they could barge logs, and the end consumer would maybe see 1 cent per board foot increase,

the problems with log booms have been well documented and studied well and understood for over 60 years.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #626 on: September 22, 2023, 08:36:50 AM »
It would take way too many barges to move the same volume of logs that are towed up river in a typical size log tow.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #627 on: September 22, 2023, 08:43:55 AM »
And the other question is barge them to where ? There’s no dry land storage in lower Fraser.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #628 on: September 22, 2023, 09:31:21 AM »
 ;D returning to the topic;

Escapement past mission is now over 9 million as of yesterday. Looks like 2023 will be an unplanned experiment on do high escapements result in high returns in the following cycle or is it the other way around.

Yesterday I walked the Harrison from Kilby Park to the mouth, casting flies and spoons. Didn't have a strike. Didn't see a pink. Very low effort underway there. Where are all the fish?
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #629 on: September 22, 2023, 09:41:32 AM »
I heard the water level there is very low ?
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