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[IronNoggin]

Limited recreational openings for chinook on the Chehalis and Chilliwack rivers being questioned

Lack of respect for First Nations fisheries priorities by federal authorities has left members of the Lower Fraser Fisheries Alliance frustrated.

That’s how recreational openings for chinook salmon on the Chehalis and Chilliwack rivers are being characterized by the LFFA, which serves 23 First Nations on the lower Fraser River.

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/recreational-chinook-openings-leave-first-nations-frustrated-on-the-lower-fraser/

Fraser River Netting Schedule (30 openings on the most endangered Chinook runs in the Fraser)

https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/PDFs/CeremonialOpeningTimes_Previous.pdf

[Stratocaster]

What a load of rubbish.  These chinook are strictly hatchery fish funded by our tax dollars.  This rec fishery is a terminal one that does not affect any of the Fraser River stocks of concern.  So because we are allowed to fish and retain our measly numbers of chinook from a hatchery funded by us, and they have their "Fraser River" fishery (the stocks that are of concern) curtailed, they feel the need to attack us?

[cammer]

This is truly a war.   Attack sports fishing sector for something they have no rights too in reality !  If they get it.... bonus but if not the DFO will give them something more to appease them .  Shoot for the moon but if miss you land amongst the stars ,,,,,    If the First Nations cared at all they wouldn’t have fished recently in the Fraser Canyon where high water and the Big Bar issue would’ve dictate no fishing whatsoever !   More and more attacks are going to come our way !  Look at the news and see how many First Nation issues are going after more financial aid in various ways due the the recent racism Tilt in the media.   We better finally organize into one union group or perish

[firstlight]

Bunch of journalistic crap.Period.

[Hike_and_fish]

If you have been on the fence, it should be clear to you now. These bands have no respect for anyone else. War !

[RalphH]

So before the firearms, helmets and body armor is passed out...

is any one from the various sport fishing and guide associations planning to write the Surrey Now-Leader to make the points that

- since both runs in question are creations of Federal Hatcheries there is no conservation concern;

- as FNs have access via the sport fishing allowance there is no exclusion of their rights. Fact is if one checks back many bands in the interior have accepted hook and line only FSC openings in the past?

It also occurs to me that all bands below the Sumas and Harrison rivers have exclusive access to these hatchery produced fish before the sport community.

They may also wish to ask the editors to follow good journalistic practice and contact some representatives of those organizations for comment that can be included in such stories before they are published.

[IronNoggin]

ALL of that and more has already been done Ralphie Ol' Chap.
From several parties btw.

The response to date: Crickets.   

Nog

[firstlight]

They will be really frustrated when they see me out there fishing with my one line and barbless hook.
Is getting really old fast being kicked around by our Government and First Nations.
At least my fish will be eaten by my family and not sold for $10.00 each.

[RalphH]

ALL of that and more has already been done Ralphie Ol' Chap.
From several parties btw.

The response to date: Crickets.   

Nog

To the paper? Perhaps you missed that part. The article was published just a few days ago. Since Firstlight quite rightly raised the issue of journalism the paper should be called to account.

BTW your incessant belittling and ridiculing of others on this discussion group has worn thin and explains why many have little patience for some aspects of your communication.

[IronNoggin]

To the paper? Perhaps you missed that part. The article was published just a few days ago. Since Firstlight quite rightly raised the issue of journalism the paper should be called to account.

Yes Ralph. To the paper. By at least five individuals I know of beyond myself.
Perhaps they are simply formulating their response.
If they do respond, I'll post.
Don't wait up nights...

BTW your incessant belittling and ridiculing of others on this discussion group has worn thin and explains why many have little patience for some aspects of your communication.

In your particular case:



Cheers,
Nog

[Rodney]

So before the firearms, helmets and body armor is passed out...

is any one from the various sport fishing and guide associations planning to write the Surrey Now-Leader to make the points that

- since both runs in question are creations of Federal Hatcheries there is no conservation concern;

- as FNs have access via the sport fishing allowance there is no exclusion of their rights. Fact is if one checks back many bands in the interior have accepted hook and line only FSC openings in the past?

It also occurs to me that all bands below the Sumas and Harrison rivers have exclusive access to these hatchery produced fish before the sport community.

They may also wish to ask the editors to follow good journalistic practice and contact some representatives of those organizations for comment that can be included in such stories before they are published.

I'm not aware of any of the FV groups or SFAC members writing to the paper actually. Usually I'd be CC'ed if anything is going out. I was going to write something up but haven't had time to do so.

If ceremonial fish are needed, I don't think the sportfishing sector would have a problem making sure that happens from the two rec fisheries, but that isn't the intent of this article. It's quite disappointing as there has been an agreement to not go to the media behind another group.

[RalphH]

Cheers,
Nog

perhaps it is an addiction.

[RalphH]

I'm not aware of any of the FV groups or SFAC members writing to the paper actually. Usually I'd be CC'ed if anything is going out. I was going to write something up but haven't had time to do so.

If ceremonial fish are needed, I don't think the sportfishing sector would have a problem making sure that happens from the two rec fisheries, but that isn't the intent of this article. It's quite disappointing as there has been an agreement to not go to the media behind another group.

thanks Rod

[spoiler]

there's nothing stopping the FN's groups from picking up a rod & reel and fishing the Chilliwack or Chehalis Rivers like everyone else.
I guess it requires too much effort!

[firstlight]

there's nothing stopping the FN's groups from picking up a rod & reel and fishing the Chilliwack or Chehalis Rivers like everyone else.
I guess it requires too much effort!

They would go broke if they fished that way.