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sockeyed

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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #225 on: September 10, 2019, 09:06:37 AM »

Most likely, we exceed 5 million pinks today. Not as plentiful as the long term averages like others have posted, but I was fearing worse results after the 2017 cycle.

02-Sep    273,200   HA   1,157,500
03-Sep    472,500   HA   1,630,000
04-Sep    656,000   HA   2,286,000
05-Sep    670,600   HA   2,956,600
06-Sep    419,400   HA   3,376,000
07-Sep    265,500   HA   3,641,500
08-Sep    373,400   HA   4,014,900
09-Sep    616,300   HA   4,631,200

Not slowing down yet! Great to see these numbers. I was near the Fraser multiple times over the past couple days and it was amazing to see how many fish were rolling.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #226 on: September 10, 2019, 09:14:17 AM »

Most likely, we exceed 5 million pinks today. Not as plentiful as the long term averages like others have posted, but I was fearing worse results after the 2017 cycle.

02-Sep    273,200   HA   1,157,500
03-Sep    472,500   HA   1,630,000
04-Sep    656,000   HA   2,286,000
05-Sep    670,600   HA   2,956,600
06-Sep    419,400   HA   3,376,000
07-Sep    265,500   HA   3,641,500
08-Sep    373,400   HA   4,014,900
09-Sep    616,300   HA   4,631,200

Well we are pretty much there now 4 630 00 + 250k catch = 4 870 000, so yeah probably after todays count will be ahead 5 million and catchers were good in whonnock yesterday. They are meeting today so my guess is there will have to adjust the run size, But will see if they keep it at 5 million for "management purposes" 
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #227 on: September 10, 2019, 10:03:22 AM »

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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #228 on: September 10, 2019, 10:32:06 AM »



Wicked. It would be nice to see this graph with the Mission HA numbers, which are more accurate. I have the 2017 pinks downloaded but for some reason they dont have archived results on their website. I have emailed them in the past for sockeye HA numbers and they emailed me those.

Edit: I have sent an email to get these numbers
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #229 on: September 10, 2019, 03:16:15 PM »

as predicted they refused to change the runsize,


Tuesday, September 10, 2019


The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, September 10 to receive an update on the migration
of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser
River watershed, including an update of the rock slide at Big Bar. The rock slide at Big Bar
continues to be a major source of concern for the Panel as migrating sockeye salmon will need to
pass this area to reach their spawning grounds. There is now evidence of natural passage of sockeye
and pink salmon through the slide area, and as a result helicopter transport of fish above the slide
has halted for the time being.
It is currently estimated that approximately 455,100 sockeye and 4,631,500 pink salmon
have passed the Mission hydroacoustic site. Test fishing catches and daily escapements of sockeye
salmon continue to track well below pre-season forecast expectations. No changes were made to
the sockeye or pink salmon run size or timing.

On September 9 discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 2,165 cms, which is
approximately 7% below average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark
Creek on September 9 was 18.1
0C, which is 2.50C above average for this date. Fraser River
discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific
management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye
escapement goals.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to commercial salmon fishing.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, September 13, 2019.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #230 on: September 10, 2019, 03:47:47 PM »

This whole darn close-down of the recreational fishery on pinks is looking more and more manipulative, unscientific and political. With fish count already in 4.6 million range, they have the gut to LIE about the run size not exceeding 5 million to justify shutting the sporties down. Does DFO even behave like a reasonable institution using science and actual figures to justify their politics motivated decisions? Shame!!!
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #231 on: September 10, 2019, 03:52:28 PM »

This whole darn close-down of the recreational fishery on pinks is looking more and more manipulative, unscientific and political. With fish count already in 4.6 million range, they have the gut to LIE about the run size not exceeding 5 million to justify shutting the sporties down. Does DFO even behave like a reasonable institution using science and actual figures to justify their politics motivated decisions? Shame!!!

Yep pathathic

https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=225321&ID=all

"During the Panel meeting today the run size for Pink salmon remained unchanged
at 5,000,000 with Area 20 timing of August 17. Recent daily escapement
estimates at Mission suggest the run size may be larger but the is significant
uncertainty in the estimates at this time. At this run size no additional US
fisheries would be considered. First Nations fisheries for FSC purposes will
continue to be considered at this time for Pink salmon. Unless the Pink run
size increases in the near future there will be no directed commercial or
recreational fisheries for Fraser Pink salmon in Canada this year. The Pink run
size will be reassessed on Fridays Panel call."
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #232 on: September 10, 2019, 04:13:20 PM »

This whole darn close-down of the recreational fishery on pinks is looking more and more manipulative, unscientific and political. With fish count already in 4.6 million range, they have the gut to LIE about the run size not exceeding 5 million to justify shutting the sporties down. Does DFO even behave like a reasonable institution using science and actual figures to justify their politics motivated decisions? Shame!!!
I think the treaty has tied their hands on this one - if they open it up to commercial or sport harvest in BC, then US fishers get a bigger take, then the impact on sockeye is that much greater.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #233 on: September 10, 2019, 04:59:03 PM »

apologies if this is an uninformed question, but what is stopping them from making the Fraser at the least C&R like the Squamish? 1 per day retention? feels like there is a gradient of choices to make rather than an all-or-nothing dilemma. Is there an email address or phone number where we can voice concerns to the officials making these decisions?

asking as someone who was looking forward to catching my first pink this year and has a difficult time getting to where the current openings are.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #234 on: September 10, 2019, 05:01:35 PM »

I think the treaty has tied their hands on this one - if they open it up to commercial or sport harvest in BC, then US fishers get a bigger take, then the impact on sockeye is that much greater.

don't mention sensible explanations for DFO's actions. Some people can't handle it and may become apoplectic.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #235 on: September 10, 2019, 05:04:04 PM »

apologies if this is an uninformed question, but what is stopping them from making the Fraser at the least C&R like the Squamish? 1 per day retention? feels like there is a gradient of choices to make rather than an all-or-nothing dilemma. Is there an email address or phone number where we can voice concerns to the officials making these decisions?

asking as someone who was looking forward to catching my first pink this year and has a difficult time getting to where the current openings are.

try catching another salmon. I got a nice spring today. It was much more exciting than the 3 pinks I hooked. Springs also taste better. Pinks are like little bonbons. Fun but the tendency is to eat an entire bag and then realize you got nothing out of it but a stomach ache.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #236 on: September 10, 2019, 05:18:09 PM »

try catching another salmon. I got a nice spring today. It was much more exciting than the 3 pinks I hooked. Springs also taste better. Pinks are like little bonbons. Fun but the tendency is to eat an entire bag and then realize you got nothing out of it but a stomach ache.

I'd love to but my little boat won't do too well out in the chuck and I don't think I have the gear for it on the vedder. Sounds like you need much heavier than I have for those boys.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2019
« Reply #237 on: September 10, 2019, 06:31:20 PM »

Was a typical slaughter show in the Sumas this morning. Nice to see fish caught and people having fun. Even thos they're still fishing illegally. It looks like fun.

BTW I'm blown away at the sea of Pinks at the Sumas /Fraser. Its unbelievable. The entire mud drop off on the west side of the mouth is a sea of Pinks.
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« Reply #238 on: September 11, 2019, 12:23:23 AM »

BTW I'm blown away at the sea of Pinks at the Sumas /Fraser. Its unbelievable. The entire mud drop off on the west side of the mouth is a sea of Pinks.

Because the entire river is closed.
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